Tell me all your thoughts...on miscarriage

KC1212 · November 2013

So my nurse called me back and said I would miscarry for sure (like I didn't deduce that from my shitty ass betas)

Anyway- she said it is better (in her opinion) to let things happen naturally...

But, I'm not cramping or bleeding. I read online it can take up to 2 weeks to bleed. I have to keep going in for bloodwork until my beta is 5...is that when I will bleed?

Can someone please tell me what to expect?

so is miscarriage bleeding CD1 ? Do I have to wait 3 months? Or do u bleed and then get a period?

Sorry, I should have asked her but she was a bitch (long story) and I was crying.

pettycrocker · November 2013

Ugh! I'm sorry your nurse was a bitch! You should have been able to comfortably ask these questions without some asshat making you feel bad.

You should check out the miscarriage board or TTCAL, I'm sure they'd have a ton of information.

I'm pretty sure since it's so early, you'd count that bleeding as CD1 and as far as the waiting to try again- I think that depends on your Dr.

Hugs

uagirl · November 2013

I'm so sorry the nurse wasn't nice.

I had a CP last December. My first beta at 13dpo was 30. At 18dpo it was down to 6. I started bleeding the next day. Basically, it was a period that showed up a week late. It was heavier and crampier than normal, but that was the only real difference. Since it was considered a chemical pregnancy, we didn't have to wait to try again and I counted the first day of bleeding as CD1. With my miscarriage, we were told to wait 2 cycles, but it required a d&c.

kndeckar · November 2013

uagirl said:
I'm so sorry the nurse wasn't nice.
I had a CP last December. My first beta at 13dpo was 30. At 18dpo it was down to 6. I started bleeding the next day. Basically, it was a period that showed up a week late. It was heavier and crampier than normal, but that was the only real difference. Since it was considered a chemical pregnancy, we didn't have to wait to try again and I counted the first day of bleeding as CD1. With my miscarriage, we were told to wait 2 cycles, but it required a d&c.

This was my experience too. I'm so sorry

t&ps

+SouthernMomma+ · November 2013

Im so sorry, honey.

If the miscarriage progresses naturally, then it is easier on your body. I would definitely ask them to prescribe you some pain killers for when it starts. With my most current loss, It wasn't happening naturally, So I had to take Misoprostol. It's basically 4 pills you take over 12 hours and is suppose to get things moving along... So I took it, went through the bleeding and extreme cramps and it still didn't work so I ended up having an emergency D&C. Our LO's heart stopped beating around 7 weeks, and I had the D&C at 9 weeks. When you start the bleeding process, that is NOT considered CD1, the next time you bleed will be CD1 and can take as long as 3 months to come... Your cycles may be all sorts of wonky the first few times. If you're having pregnancy symptoms, don't expect them to go away the moment it happens... They can linger around until all of the HCG is out of your system... It's an emotionally painful process Based on how far along you are, pay close attention every time you use the bathroom, and prepare yourself for the possibility of seeing the tissue expelled. With my first, I MC naturally and it was brought on by a sudden urge to what I thought was a BM and ended up expelling the baby into the toilet. (After an ER trip and 1 pain pill later, when I got home the placenta followed.) I was not prepared for that at all. You may experience heavy bleeding for awhile, so have enough pads on hand. The cramps, (for me) felt like contractions...

This is my experience anyway, not saying this is how its going to be for you... but I hope it helps you get an idea?

I am so very sorry and I hope some one bitch slaps that cold hearted nurse in the near future.

Sending you big hugs and my T&P's during this time.

annibes · November 2013

I'm sorry. My heart hurts for you.

CheesyPeas · November 2013

I'm so sorry you're going through this. I would guess that with your current betas, the natural miscarriage is likely to start within the next couple of weeks. You certainly don't have to get down to below 5 for the bleeding to start. I think most people have to test down to 5 well after their miscarriage, and the wait is typically proportional to how far along you are.

I had a D&C because I found out about my missed miscarriage couple of weeks before Thanksgiving and didn't want to risk having a natural miscarriage while in my hometown around people who didn't know I was pregnant to begin with. I just wanted to get the physical stuff over with. Unfortunately I had retained tissue from the D&C and ended up passing that tissue during the holiday weekend at my mom's house. I'm guessing the passing of tissue was an abbreviated version of a natural miscarriage. For me, it meant stabbing contractions that were timeable and at progressively shortening intervals, just like labor (although the contractions were definitely much different than labor with DS). I then started passing lots of clots, and and the bleeding was very heavy. I had to spend time on the toilet because no way would pads keep my clothing safe. The heavy stuff happened in waves and lasted an hour or two, and then it tapered off to regular period type bleeding. With occassional clots. The baby measured 9.5 weeks or so when the miscarriage was diagnosed, so I'm not sure how much experiences would vary depending on gestation.

Miscarriage bleeding would count at CD1 I believe but you could potential have multiple waves of bleeding, so I wouldn't be too concerned about tracking this cycle. Some people will ovulate in the cycle immediately following a miscarriage and some people won't. I did ovulate, and my ovulation came about a week or so after my betas dropped far enough for me to "fail" a HPT, which was also about 3 weeks post-D&C. My luteal phase was extremely short that cycle, so it wouldn't have been a good one to TTC, even if we had the blessing of my OB to do so, which we didn't. She said to wait for a full cycle before trying again but every doctor is different, so I would see what your doc thinks is right for you.

Sorry for the novel. The emotional toll is definitely far worse than all the physical stuff, even though the physical stuff sucks a lot too. I still cry for my angel baby, and he/she has been gone for 3 years now. ((Huge hugs)) to you.

Jen071407 · November 2013

I found out about my mmc at 7w2d with baby measuring 6w3d. I opted for the D&C so that it could just be over quickly, although I did end up passing tissue after anyway with what I would call very painful period cramps. From what I understand, being that you are still early my guess is you would experience what @uagirl said...heavier bleeding and more painful cramping than a period. I'm so sorry you are going through this. It is so incredibly unfair, and just plain old sucks.

Sweetest116 · November 2013

My experience was like @uagirl.... I am so sorry you are going through this. You're early, so you won't need to worry about scary things like D&Cs most likely. Your body will take over. You don't have to wait to try again and the bleeding will be CD1. Expect it to be very heavy.

Amores0121 · November 2013

I'm so so sorry, KC. (((hugs))) Please PM me if you need to talk. M/C bleeding is not CD 1. You will miscarry and then you will have to wait for your period. For some people it comes earlier than normal, some later. I had 38 days b/n my last loss and my first CD 1. Basically once your body realizes the pregnancy is not viable, that is when you will start bleeding. Sometimes it takes the body awhile to catch up. I carried my first around for 4 weeks, not knowing it had stopped growing and my body never recognized it. I have had 2 D&Cs and my last was natural. I highly recommend D&Cs over natural miscarriage. It is much less traumatic and the bleeding is much less. I would give it 2 weeks and if you don't start bleeding, I would request a D&C.

Also, the time needed to wait will be based on what your dr. says. However, do not put anything in the vagina for 2 weeks after the bleeding stops. Do not take baths or go swimming.

Have you talked to your acupuncturist? I have read stories of herbs that are supposed to be able to help prevent m/c. However, with your low beta it is probably unlikely they could prevent. May I ask what your second beta was?

I am so sorry that your nurse was a bitch. I recommend going to the m/c board and then joining us at TCCAL when you are ready to try again. It is a great board. (((hugs))) and I will pray for your healing.

ETA: Sorry, I just saw your other post saying what beta #2 was.

mrsgabus · November 2013

:-<

mrsgabus · November 2013

I'm so sorry for your loss . You would count the first bleeding as day 1 and most of my bleeding happened around the 5 hcg mark. Out of all my miscarriages only one ended up needing to do a d&c but I was 17 weeks .

If you need to vent or chat . You can pm me

+SouthernMomma+ · November 2013

Hopefully this helps also...

https://www.md-health.com/Period-After-Miscarriage.html

KC1212 · November 2013

Thank you everyone for sharing what to expect with me because I really have no clue.

Thank you for all of the support. I don't know what I would do without all of you and I cannot imagine going through this without this lifeline.

SaranJonathan · November 2013

I am so sorry for your loss. As for miscarriages I have had four. Two were similar as they were about a week in. Natural. I started bleeding with those about three days after it was confirmed. For those my doctor said no need to wait to try again. We counted that bleeding as cd 1. I also had a miscarriage that was natural. When I started spotting I had the u/s and saw a sac only. No baby. I had betas for weeks. My d/c was the worst and a missed miscarriage. Personally I would rather stay the natural route. But each person is different. The further along you were the worst it has been at least for me. Hugs. Pm me if you have any specific questions,

chusum · November 2013

Ugh, ugh, ugh. Seriously this absolutely sucks. I'm assuming the betas went down and that's why they are so sure you will m/c. Your betas didn't go up too much, so there isn't much to pass. You might have a slightly heavier period since your lining probably started to build up. There might be a little extra cramping, but it won't be the full on birth pain contractions with a later loss. It could take up to two weeks, but I wouldn't take meds to jump start it because at least one of the meds requires a 3 month TTA period. Because I think it would be considered more of a chemical pregnancy the start of bleeding would be considered CD1.

I am so sorry for your loss.

MommaInNC · November 2013

I'm so sorry. I'm going through a m/c right now (still bleeding from a m/c two weeks ago) and I was told just to wait one full menstrual cycle before trying again. I think I'd give it at least until you get your actual period back (post m/c) and then start trying whenever you're comfortable. Do they consider this a chemical or a m/c? I think if its a chemical you can start right away. Big hugs.

KC1212 · November 2013

I don't know. What is a chemical pregnancy? My LMP was 9/30. I got my BFP 11/3. I spotted yesterday and today is the full show.

mrsgabus · November 2013

I don't know. What is a chemical pregnancy? My LMP was 9/30. I got my BFP 11/3. I spotted yesterday and today is the full show.

A chemical is a pregnancy that has been confirm via pos or bloodwork but has not been confirmed by ultrasound usually within the first week after your missed period.

Basically an early miscarriage.

ScarletBegonia79 · November 2013

I am so sorry

I had the same experience last week. I went to the doctor on Friday and he said that last Tuesday (when the bleeding began) is CD1 and that we could even do IUI this month, so if there is any silver lining I guess that is it.

chusum · November 2013

mrsgabus said:

I don't know. What is a chemical pregnancy? My LMP was 9/30. I got my BFP 11/3. I spotted yesterday and today is the full show.
A chemical is a pregnancy that has been confirm via pos or bloodwork but has not been confirmed by ultrasound usually within the first week after your missed period. Basically an early miscarriage.

HCG too low for an u/s, I think 1500 is the magic number to see something on an u/s.

Momarazzi007 · November 2013

KC1212- I am so sorry! I know I am late to the table here, but praying for you and how are you doing now? Can I kidney punch anyone for you? I was lurking and hoping and praying it had turned around

KC1212 · November 2013

@Momarazzi007

Hey! I'm hanging in there

but, how how are you?! Did you have your FET?

Momarazzi007 · November 2013

I just posted- maybe that will make you smile

you also made me cry, but I didn't want call you out in that thread.

KC1212 · November 2013

@momarazzi007 awwww don't cry

I'm sure it's the drugs! I cannot imagine pumping myself with all that crazy! Don't you worry! Take care of yourself and put everything on the back burner ! You have a baby to make! That's big stuff. Big (((hugs))) to you.

Momarazzi007 · November 2013

You're so sweet! And I'm crying again! Sorry I wasn't around when it happened

I was living in angry lupron land. Didn't want to write wrong thing to anyone. (((Hugs))) right back at you!!!

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