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Ugh, this makes me feel all kinds of rage

Puck1182Puck1182 member
in February 2013 Moms
At the risk of losing my anonymity (anyone who remembers what my FT job is will be able to narrow me down to one of three names on my department'a web page) this is a thing that happened at my place of employment:

https://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-lehighvalley/Judge-orders-Northampton-Co-mother-to-stop-breastfeeding/-/132502/22880612/-/t3dwj2/-/index.html

Seriously, they couldn't just wait awhile on the overnight visits??? It's a damn good thing this article doesn't identify which judge this is (and that my department has little contact with courts, so I think I'd only actually recognize about two judges on the common pleas level, i mostly deal with district judges) because if I saw him or her, I don't think I'd be able to keep my mouth shut. :-/


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  • musicalmama5musicalmama5 member
    I saw that article on facebook too. Ugh. So disgusting! 

    I bet after night 1 the dad will be begging the mom to keep the baby overnight though... I'd hate to be DH with DS overnight without me!
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  • CamMyManCamMyMan member
    Dear lord, I read the comments! I should have known better! WWWHHHYYYY. People are so ignorant sometimes it makes me want to barf :-&


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  • Puck1182Puck1182 member
    edited November 2013
    Dammit. I didnt see the comments. Now I know it's Judge xxxx. I wouldn't recognize him if I saw him.

    Editted to remove judge's name info about my job because I just realized this thread shows up on a Google search. Eep!


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  • ericalee27ericalee27 member
    The comments make me feel all the rage as well.  GAH

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  • tamarar5tamarar5 member
    Gah!!! So dumb. She should that that decision to the supreme Court and sue the judge for being a jerk. And I WANT to quit breast feeding!
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  • Puck1182Puck1182 member
    edited November 2013
    $/@:$!!! Passed Judge xxxx in the hallway this morning. Would not have known it was him except my coworker was like "Oh look it's Judge xxxx.". Inside I was all like "Rrraaaahhh!!! Hulk SMASH!!!" and as soon as we were out of earshot I said something along the lines of "Fuck Judge xxxx in his stupid fuckface!!!!".

    Yeah, I definitely can't audit this dude anymore. Also, I really, really hope the Lehigh Valley chaper of Le Leche League gets wind of this story and stages a nurse-in in his courtroom.


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  • penguingrrlpenguingrrl member
    Clearly this judge has absolutely no knowledge of BF babies. DS used to take a bottle without a problem, but stopped at around 4 months. When I'm away from him he'll gladly starve over taking a bottle and it's miserable for anyone in charge of him. I have no problem pumping and would have no problem leaving him overnight but I couldn't leave him overnight right now because I know he would be up all night crying for food and refusing the bottle (we've been through it when I need to be away from him).

    I could absolutely see making this judgement when the child is over 12 months since that follows the current AAP recommendation of a minimum of 12 months of BFing. But under 12 months that's unreasonable.

    And WTF to the statement that the kid can have formula. Is he offering to pay for it? Is he willing to be entirely for it if the kid decides no longer to nurse after a few days away (which happens with 10 month olds)?
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  • Puck1182Puck1182 member
    edited November 2013
    NickysNutmeg said:

    My friend posted this on her FB page and I was the only one enraged by it. Most of her other friends were posting things like the baby should take formula, or it's within the dad's rights, or that's what you get when you have sex outside of marriage. I was just so upset because this is by where I'm from and really, REALLY the dad can't wait until the baby is over a year old to start this sort of nonsense. 


    If it wasn't going to be detrimental to the baby, I would just hand the baby over to the father without formula, diapers or anything and say, "Here, have a nice weekend." But I'd be too worried about what the baby daddy would do when he's left alone with a screaming child who won't drink from a bottle. 
    This exactly. If it's true that this baby won't take a bottle, I am absolutely terrified for her. If something bad happens to her because of Judge xxxx's ignorance, he better hope to God he never sees me. Because holy fuck. I would lose it on him.

    I was talking to my coworkers about this and they were all like "What about the rights of te father?". Um, this isn't about the rights of the father. Hell, it isn't even about the rights of the mother. It's about what's BEST FOR THE BABY. Even if the mother deliberately did not introduce a bottle to the baby until it was too late for her to accept it, there is no sense in punishing the baby, which is what this arrangement will probably do.


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  • MyzticsunshineMyzticsunshine member
    Are we all absolutely sure the baby won't take a bottle? Cause honestly, if the baby will , then it shouldn't be the biggest deal. Who's to say that the father isn't going just as crazy without said baby as a mom would?if The baby would be fine with formula than the father deserves a chance to be a father for two nights. I don't see why she's fighting it so hard. Night off would be great every now and again. And she'll be BEGGING him to take the kid soon anyway

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  • Puck1182Puck1182 member
    Myzticsunshine said:

    Are we all absolutely sure the baby won't take a bottle? Cause honestly, if the baby will , then it shouldn't be the biggest deal. Who's to say that the father isn't going just as crazy without said baby as a mom would?if The baby would be fine with formula than the father deserves a chance to be a father for two nights. I don't see why she's fighting it so hard. Night off would be great every now and again. And she'll be BEGGING him to take the kid soon anyway

    We can't be absolutely sure unless they release whether they confirmed the bottle refusal issue, but since this is family court I doubt they'd release the details. I would be simple enough to test (have mom leave the room a d have dad offer a bottle), but that's only part of the issue.

    The mother is likely telling the truth when she says she can't pump enough. I know that despite massive oversupply at first, I now have to pump 2-3 times to get one bottle, so there's no way in hell I could pump a full 48 hours worth. It's a common issue with babies this age. And 48 hours of not enough milk being removed from her breasts will signal for her body to make less milk. Doing that every single weak will probably kill her supply and end the nursing relationship altogether. The fact that the judge failed to take this into consideration and is FORCING the motheri give this baby formula (because if she can't pump enough milk, that's what he's doing, even if she has the option to pump) is appalling. Can you imagine if a judge ordered a mother to breastfeed even though she didn't want to? It absolutely wouldn't fly.


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