August 2013 Moms

LO's Bfing Frustration

For the last few nights, LO, who is 8 weeks old, has been acting really fussy when eating. I usually start feeding her on my right side, because that is the side that produces less. She will nurse for about 5 minutes, and then get really fussy. She will unlatch, kick her legs and swing her arms around, and start crying. She will keep latching, sucking for a second or two, and then start screaming, almost like she is frustrated because there isn't any milk coming out. At first, I thought that it was just because I don't produce as much on the right side and that maybe there really is nothing coming from that side. So I'd burp her and switch sides. She will nurse then on the left for about 10 minutes or so, and then do the same thing. I have been going to group and she normally does just fine, getting just over 3oz usually. This past week she was so sleepy that she didn't wake up enough to eat more than just over an ounce. There are no signs of thrush that I can see. I started taking the mini pill about a week ago, could that be messing with my supply? Or could there be something else going on? I ended up giving her a bottle of pumped milk tonight after I fed her because she was still crying so much. Any ideas?

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  • Did you see the link Loki posted a little while back. This helped me a lot.. Maybe she will post it again..?
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  • @LokiLahve?  I didnt see it...

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  • I'm not saying this is your issue but this is how my lo acted when I had supply issues. Does your better breast feel soft after or does it feel like there is more in there? When I had supply issues I could tell that I was out of milk because both breasts would feel emptied.
  • Well I feel like it could be supply issues, the only time I feel full is in the middle of the night and the morning.  I just don't know why I all of a sudden would have issues.

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  • I'm on the mini pill too and had no issues but my ob did say it could cause supply issues. My plan for any future supply issues. ..which I expect to have once I return to work since I don't think I will be able to pump enough ...is to just take fenugreek again.
  • Its very possible, that's the only thing that has changed that would make her so frustrated...

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  • I've only been taking the mini pill for about a week, so I may go off it again and see if my supply comes back.   I've been bleeding too, so I'm thinking the pill may have caused that as well.

    As far as gas, I always burp her when she starts getting fussy, but I think her crying and trying to latch is what gives her gas.

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  • My DD does the same thing because of a fast, heavy let down.

    Remember that your breasts "feeling full" or "firm" is not a sign of having a good supply. Many women will have soft breasts after a few months of breastfeeding that never "feel full" but plenty of milk. How much do you get if you pump right after she does this?

    With my first I often thought I had supply issues when I couldn't get LO to latch and eventually EPed. Then I learned it had to do with my let down. This time I have to guard against the aggressive let down by making sure I nurse her every 2 hours or less during the daylight hours.

    This time, my baby will do almost exactly what you describe. Nurse a little, pull off, fuss, and then latch, fuss, latch, fuss, latch fuss.

    I just wouldn't rule out something other than supply based on softer breasts and baby pulling away. Most babies would stay latched if it is a supply issue because the breast is never truly "empty" and they can continue to get a little something.

    Just another thing to consider...
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  • BellaOso said:
    My DD does the same thing because of a fast, heavy let down.

    Remember that your breasts "feeling full" or "firm" is not a sign of having a good supply. Many women will have soft breasts after a few months of breastfeeding that never "feel full" but plenty of milk. How much do you get if you pump right after she does this?

    With my first I often thought I had supply issues when I couldn't get LO to latch and eventually EPed. Then I learned it had to do with my let down. This time I have to guard against the aggressive let down by making sure I nurse her every 2 hours or less during the daylight hours.

    This time, my baby will do almost exactly what you describe. Nurse a little, pull off, fuss, and then latch, fuss, latch, fuss, latch fuss.

    I just wouldn't rule out something other than supply based on softer breasts and baby pulling away. Most babies would stay latched if it is a supply issue because the breast is never truly "empty" and they can continue to get a little something.

    Just another thing to consider...
    I've thought about this too...but shes only been doing it for 3 or 4 days.  She has been a great nurser up until then.  Can your letdown change all of a sudden? 

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  • Here is the site / article that Loki posted.
    https://www.mobimotherhood.org/mm/article-milkflow.aspx

    My LO does the same and I think it's let down issues
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  • My LO is the same age (8 weeks yesterday) and has been doing the exact same thing the last 2 days. I've noticed twice today that if I gave him the pacifier even though he was super frustrated/angry and just rocked him til he settled, he fell asleep and then woke up ready to eat. So I think his issue is being over tired. He's not a good napper and didn't nap well yesterday or today and each time I've gotten him to take a little power nap he's done better with nursing upon waking up. Is your LO overtired by chance? Not sure if that's your issue but figured I'd share my experience. 


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  • Same exact issue but my LO is 11 weeks. I hadn't considered let down. I assumed it was supply issues. I use my hand to try and express more for her while she's sucking. It's super frustrating because I'm scared she's not getting enough or I'm doing something wrong. Anyways. Following this post :)
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    Here is the site / article that Loki posted.
    https://www.mobimotherhood.org/mm/article-milkflow.aspx

    My LO does the same and I think it's let down issues

    Yep this is it...since I found this my BFing experience had changed for the better.


    Eta: also, before reading this I was convinced I had a supply issue. Turns out my supply was just fine and I think it was the combo of a too fast flow on the left and too slow on the right.
    Since I've been working on it I feel like the sides have reversed...now left is slow and right is fast. So just be prepared once you figure it out for your body to throw another curve call. But this time you'll know how to hit it :)
  • kwrecks said:

    I've only been taking the mini pill for about a week, so I may go off it again and see if my supply comes back.   I've been bleeding too, so I'm thinking the pill may have caused that as well.

    As far as gas, I always burp her when she starts getting fussy, but I think her crying and trying to latch is what gives her gas.

    Lots of good advice from pp as well. Just wanted to follow up and say the mini pill made me bleed for almost a week and heavier than I was expecting...super lame!
  • kwrecks said:
    BellaOso said:
    My DD does the same thing because of a fast, heavy let down.

    Remember that your breasts "feeling full" or "firm" is not a sign of having a good supply. Many women will have soft breasts after a few months of breastfeeding that never "feel full" but plenty of milk. How much do you get if you pump right after she does this?

    With my first I often thought I had supply issues when I couldn't get LO to latch and eventually EPed. Then I learned it had to do with my let down. This time I have to guard against the aggressive let down by making sure I nurse her every 2 hours or less during the daylight hours.

    This time, my baby will do almost exactly what you describe. Nurse a little, pull off, fuss, and then latch, fuss, latch, fuss, latch fuss.

    I just wouldn't rule out something other than supply based on softer breasts and baby pulling away. Most babies would stay latched if it is a supply issue because the breast is never truly "empty" and they can continue to get a little something.

    Just another thing to consider...
    I've thought about this too...but shes only been doing it for 3 or 4 days.  She has been a great nurser up until then.  Can your letdown change all of a sudden? 
    Mine did. Or at least it started to bother her VERY suddenly. She was fine for the first 2 months and then was not fine at all. Then we had a nursing strike. It was awful, but we got through it - mostly. Sometimes if she naps a lot I have to pump more often than I want.

    When I pump with a manual pump my milk comes out so fast and hard it hisses. My boobs are like jets. Maybe pump a little or hand express and see what yours does?

    I am still trying to figure out what to do to get it under control because the more I pump, the more milk I make. The more milk I make, the more likely I am to have a forceful let down, the more forceful my let down the more I have to pump to get her on the breast... it sucks.
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  • What is mini pill?

    Birth control pills without the added hormones (estrogen) that are in the kind you may have taken before pregnancy.
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