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My LO only wants to sleep either cuddled up beside me or on top of me. Obviously I'm not getting any sleep bc I am terrified if something happening to him. How can I modify this situation so he still feels close to me (and sleeps!) but is also safe?
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    I have a co-sleeper but haven't put it in our bed yet, I use it in the living room for daytime naps. I like the swaddle idea. Elias loves sleeping in our bed, but I won't let him in there until after FI has gone to work so I can put him on his side of the bed rather than in between us.


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    I have the Arm's Reach bassinet at the side of the bed.  It comes perfectly to the bed.
    To add, I have done some bed sharing with him.  There is a safe way to do it.
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    Thanks everyone for the ideas.

    @brandontricia I definitely understand that and am trying to get him more comfortable in his PnP. It's just about the only place he won't sleep... Ugh!
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     and putting rolled blankets around him?
    uhh nope.  this is not safe bed sharing ugh

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    and to OP, i dont know if your packnplay is very large or if it has  a smaller bassinet inside, but some babies dont  like the huge feeling of the large part. try something smaller , and put a heating pad in it to warm  it first

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    +1 for bedsharing


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    @CousinVicki I think you are right about it being just too big. He likes to feel snuggled. We don't have a smaller attachment though, it's just essentially the floor of the PnP adjusted higher. Didn't think we'd need all those high falootin' extras, haha! I thought for sure this baby would be low key!
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    Our DH (18 days old) HATES the co-sleeper. She will not sleep in it, but seems to feel more comfortable in the RnP. We bed shared for the first 16 days, but the past two nights we have really tried to have her sleep in the RnP so that I can catch up on some sleep (even though she ends up in the bed anyway). Plus, she loves sleeping with her face smashed in my boob, and that makes me nervous. She seems to like the more snuggly feeling of the RnP. Do you have one that you could try?
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    @blueeyedrose86

    We have this little bouncy hammock-y type thing that he sleeps really well in, but it's not even a foot off the floor so I worry that he'd get cold and that the dumb dog would try to lick him all night long. The dog would never hurt him but he sure would pester him half to death.
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    Thanks for asking and sharing ladies this is exactly where we are at too. My DH thinks we should buy a cosleeper. The bassinet is right next to the bed but just not working and she loves her hands so despite the tight swaddled she works her hands loose. In minutes she's fussing and crying and me sticking my hand in does not soothe her.

    We have a memory foam matress which makes me nervous. I am ready to buy a brand new mattress, but clearly my hormones are messing with my normally rational behavior. Usually DH is the one who rushes to buy things for a quick fix and I want to wait and see.

    @crunchymama11 Any specific sites we should read? Google is overwhelming me right now. DH is not as open to the plan of just keeping her next to me.
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    DH had to stop at Target on the way home from the Pedi on day 3 to buy a co-sleeper. We got the summer by your side sleeper. It was seriously an emergency purchase after a totally sleepless night and it has been a lifesaver. She is still nursing for most of the night and for that we are laying stomach to stomach in the bed but when she finishes and I feel myself starting to nod off I deposit her into the co-sleeper. It is not long before she needs out to nurse again, but it is working way better than the pack n play, which is currently functioning as a changing table.  
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    If you have a convertible crib and want to save a few bucks, just take the side off your crib, adjust the mattress to bed-height, and secure the legs of the crib (tightly!) to your bedframe with some ratchet tie downs.  Wallah, instant co-sleeper.

    FTR, we are a bedsharing family, but briefly did this when transitioning DS to his crib. 


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    I have found that putting the RnP beside the bed helps and if he starts to fuss I just put my hand on his chest or belly and it calms him right down. So he is sleeping safely but knows that I am near.
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    Dr. Jay Gordon's website has good info for safe bedsharing. We have our pillows under our fitted sheet and only sleep with a light blanket pulled waist high. I sleep without a top. LO sleeps on my side with a bedrail . She usually sleeps in the crook of my arm. I bedshared with DD1too. Better to prepare for safe bedsharing than do it out of desperation. We had no issues getting DD1 out of our bed at 7 months but we still do family nap time every weekend and it's the best nap ever. I love bedsharing.
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    We use a snuggle nest. I put it between me and the side of the bed and sleep in the middle. I can easily keep my hand on him when he stirs just a little bit to help him go back to sleep or let him hold my finger or pop a pacifier in. It's easy to get him in and out for nursing and I feel like he's safer in this than in my bed. When he starts to roll we'll use the crib next to my bed.
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    I use the RnP at night and swaddle him tight and place rolled blankets around him. It's just like my arms!
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    I use the RnP at night and swaddle him tight and place rolled blankets around him. It's just like my arms!

    Wow--the way you have described this, it really does not seem safe. You should definitely ask your pediatrician whether this is recmmended.
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    There is no way I would have our baby sleep in the bed with us unless it was some sort of emergency situation where there was nowhere else for her to sleep--and then I would stay awake to watch over her.  On a regular basis?  Nope.  My husband rolls over onto me in his sleep and smacks/elbows/kicks me.  And I'm a heavy enough sleeper sometimes that I wouldn't trust myself, either.  Just...nothing about this idea seems wise to me.

    And as far as the "babies have been sleeping with their parents for centuries" thing, well, yeah, but babies have been dying of asphyxiation for centuries because of that, too.  That's like when people say, "We all grew up not wearing bicycle helmets and we're still here."  Yep, we're still here.  The kids who died of head injuries are not.  Duh.
    Couldn`t have said it any better than this. I was wondering if I was the crazy one reading all these `bed sharing is okay as long as you do it right` posts...I thought it was a complete no-no to bed share because of the dangers and high chances of asphyxiation. Glad to see I`m not alone in these thoughts!



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    So many people use rnp for sleep now and nothing I've read says they are safe for sleep. They go against half of the recommendations for safe sleep, and there haven't been any studies published on their safety. Evidently babies sleep so well in these, but are they really safe? Thoughts? Babies sleep well in car seats, with mom and lots of snuggly covers as well , until they don't anymore.
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    btimes3 said:
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    There is no way I would have our baby sleep in the bed with us unless it was some sort of emergency situation where there was nowhere else for her to sleep--and then I would stay awake to watch over her.  On a regular basis?  Nope.  My husband rolls over onto me in his sleep and smacks/elbows/kicks me.  And I'm a heavy enough sleeper sometimes that I wouldn't trust myself, either.  Just...nothing about this idea seems wise to me.

    And as far as the "babies have been sleeping with their parents for centuries" thing, well, yeah, but babies have been dying of asphyxiation for centuries because of that, too.  That's like when people say, "We all grew up not wearing bicycle helmets and we're still here."  Yep, we're still here.  The kids who died of head injuries are not.  Duh.
    yes and amen. This is exactly my feeling. DH feels even stronger about it than I do. It is totally not worth the risk. She slept in a little cradle/bassinet thing next to our bed for the first few weeks. We just moved her to her big crib in her nursery. Making things easy and more comfortable for myself is not what being a parent is. So, yes if for some crazy reason there was absolutely no other option for her to sleep than in my bed with me I would stay up and watch her, or watch TV or something. There is no way I would go to sleep. I highly recommend getting a PNP or bassinet or something if you want her in your room. But, please not in your bed. 
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    Our LO hated the pack n play, cosleeper, sleep nest and RNP, I have been swaddling her and letting her sleep on my chest. I am a crazy light sleeper and keep blankets to my waist, I'm far from the edge of my bed and my DH stays on his side. We have been doing this all week, LO is 8 days old today and last night I was able to transition her to RNP for about 3 hours. My pediatrician was actually supportive of this in the short term because I'm being so careful and because LO wasn't ready to be on her own. I'm now planning to extend her time in the RNP each night. Good luck!
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    Wasn't there an article posted quite a while back about the RNP not being safe for babies to sleep?

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    Those of you who are adamantly against cosleeping; what do you recommend when your LO will not fall asleep or stay asleep in the rnp, pnp, bouncer, bassinet?
    I'm just curious. My LO will not sleep at night in any if those for longer than 30 minutes. I have co-slept using all the precautions and he slept for 2+ hours.
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    This is quoted from the article cited above re: "safer bedsharing practices." Aside from the risk of actually suffocating your baby, would you and or your spouse be able to forgive yourself/each other if your baby truly died of SIDS, not suffocation, but they were in your bed at the time and so the medical professionals couldn't 100 percent "rule out" human error as a cause of death?

    "It may be important to consider or reflect on whether you would think that you suffocated your baby if, under the most unlikely scenario, your baby died from SIDS while in your bed. Just as babies can die from SIDS in a risk free solitary sleep environment, it remains possible for a baby to die in a risk-free cosleeping/bed sharing environment. Just make sure, as much as this is possible, that you would not assume that , if the baby died, that either you or your spouse would think that bed-sharing contributed to the death, or that one of your really suffocated (by accident) the infant. It is worth thinking about."

    I know that my marriage is very strong. But if My husband had been bed sharing with our baby and he died during the night for unknown reasons, I don't know how I would ever be able to work with him through that. And I sure he would feel the same regarding me...

    We are naturally risk-averse people, so we don't practice bed sharing.
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    Also, the advocates for bed sharing say that it is never safe to bed share unless your baby is 100 percent breast fed.

    I haven't researched this in depth, since we will never do it, but I didn't see this caveat in any of the prior posts.
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    But if you're asking me what to do if your newborn baby won't sleep for more than a half hour at a time?  Then I'd say deal with it, he's a newborn baby, they're known for doing that sometimes.  I mean, if you want to bedshare with your tiny baby, if you feel that the benefit of him and you getting a couple of hours of sleep at a time right now outweigh the risks, then that's your business.  I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.  I wouldn't be able to sleep with the worry, and if somehow I did and the worst happened, I'd never be able to sleep again.  That's me.

    I have no problem with the amount of sleep and I am dealing with it. He's 3 weeks old and a baby, so it's expected for the next 10 years...
    I was moreso inquiring how others have mentioned heating pads prior to laying them down and using a blanket with your scent, etc. I'm curious what other tactics have worked.

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    I was honestly shocked with the amount of people who were supporting this (with all the benefits they were listing, sounding very selfish). The infant where my husband had to go out and investigate an unattended death where the mother was bed sharing (was actually following most of the "safe" guidelines you ladies have listed) and her chest actually suffocated her 8 week old infant. She was devastated!

    I told my husband about all the posts on here of people supporting this. He said that "sure, probably a lot of the times bed sharing works (and the parents get more sleep and nothing happens), but could you live with yourself if you killed or suffocated your LO because they slept better and it was more convenient for you? If the answer is yes and you are okay with the consequences, then do what you feel is right. You are the only one that has to live with that burden."

    We as a family will be co sleeping. It is a choice we are comfortable with and I can live with that decision.

    And again- babies die in their cribs and PNPs! just because a baby is sleeping by themselves does not mean the baby won't die! There are more SIDS cases with the baby in a crib than being suffocated by the parents!


    I don't want to be rude, because you clearly are passionate about bed sharing. But the reason there are more SIDS cases where baby is sleeping in the crib than with their parents is that most parents try to follow the AAP's safe sleep recommendations and don't bed share. So, the absolute number of kids who die in their parent's bed vs. in their cribs doesn't say anything--the real question would be the percentage of each that result in infant death. And that is currently unknowable.

    I know you believe your personal experience with your daughter supports your bed sharing position. But I don't think you could find a NICU doctor or any pediatric specialist in dealing with apnea in infants who would say they a high-risk infant with demonstrated apnea should bedshare... That just wouldn't be backed up by any research that is currently published.

    That said, it worked for you. And it will work for many people. But, statistics indisputably show that more babies die in bed-sharing situations than those who had their own sleep space.
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    I have a co sleeper and she sleeps vey well in it ... Until its bedtime for us! Then she wakes up at night for her feedings and will wake up when put back in her co sleeper (she prefers to be held).Sometimes I don't think she is even that hungry she just wants to feel me next to her . I was so desperate other night that I put her in her sleeper and put my foot in the sleeper to see if I could trick her into thinking that she was next to me ... Lol it didn't work!
    So hopefully if you get one you won't run into the same problem. I have accepted that this might be a temporary issue until we can get on a shedule .. Until then I am trying to sleep when she sleeps.
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    Thank you everyone, these responses have been very thoughtful and full of great information. Even though I was taking every precaution I could last night, it's still not a practice that I or my husband are very comfortable with at this point. Hopefully he'll get through this crazy phase relatively shortly and find his rhythm at night. I know he's still so young and we have a way to go, but everyone else survives it somehow or another, and we will too!
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    I have literally flipped my schedule. My pediatrician said that he should eventually switch over to a normal sleep schedule in a few weeks so I'm just waiting until then. I sleep from about 5 in the morning, when DH takes his shift, to about 3 pm waking every 2-3 hours to feed. It is still really difficult to stay awake through the night so when I feel my eyes getting heavy I set him in the pnp with a paci and I'm able to get small cat naps between leaning over to replace the paci.
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    @nryan55

    I'm mobile so forgive me jumping around and/or weird wording.

    Do it safely, etc. somebody above mentioned the ebf babies are safer and that's because the hormones released while bf more finely tunes the "mothers instinct" of lightly sleeping to keep watch over your baby.

    And I definitely ditto that babies die--whether sleeping alone or in moms bed. Having them die alone would cause just as many "what ifs" as if baby died in moms bed.

    Somebody above mentioned also something about AAP...that's also just in the US. Babies around the world bed share and have fewer cases of SIDS.

    Bed sharing promotes longer/full term breast feeding, which to me, is healthier than the risks of safe-bed sharing.

    Somebody also mentioned "we're al tired"--- false. I am getting some of the best sleep I have had on months. I have a 4 day old, and I am in bed approx 10pm-10am, with a nap somewhere in between as well. Since we're still getting the hang of breastfeeding- I do get out of bed to feed him, but I imagine soon I'll be able to stay in bed the whole time. Being rested allows me to be a better mom, IMO.

    I think I covered most points? If not, ask! I am also super passionate about bed sharing, almost as much as I am about breastfeeding----and rear facing car seats.


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    I have the RNP sleeper is that still a no no because he hates his bassinet and needs to sleep in an incline position because of his acid reflux.
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    No it'

    I use the RnP at night and swaddle him tight and place rolled blankets around him. It's just like my arms!

    Wow--the way you have described this, it really does not seem safe. You should definitely ask your pediatrician whether this is recmmended.
    Yeah I have a way of describing things in a shitty manner. I just swaddle him and take two light Gerber receiving blankets and roll them...like they do at the hospital to keep them on their sides. I place them on either side of his arms under the soft liner of the RnP. They don't go anywhere near his face. Just to keep him a little more snug. My pedi said it was fine...he sleeps great I have to say! The RnP was definitely a life saver...literally because of his reflux issues due to his cleft palate. Hope this makes a little more sense?
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    @AmyG
    That's some really useful info...thanks!
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