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Keeping a Foot in the Office Door Can Ease Mothers’ Anxiety

Re: Keeping a Foot in the Office Door Can Ease Mothers’ Anxiety

  • Good article.  I know some older women who took time off and planned to re-enter the work place when their children were older but it can be extremely difficult to do this if you have a 10 year gap on your resume.  So even though it might seem silly to be paying so much for childcare, working at least part-time will help keep your current.

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  • Working also means you continue to contribute to SS.  
    And if you contribute to a 401k that is something you'll never regret. Especially if employer matches your contribution in any way.


  • It's definitely ideal, but there are many positions out there that just aren't available part-time or even companies willing to have you go part-time.  More flexibility would help!

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  • It's definitely ideal, but there are many positions out there that just aren't available part-time or even companies willing to have you go part-time.  More flexibility would help!
    ITA! I'm leaving my job this winter. I would love to do something just a couple days a week, but that's not really available in my field and what the heck else would I find that would be a new job closer to home with good pay and a professional position?? I do think it's an interesting point that even if you're at a loss with child care, staying in the workforce makes more sense in the long-run. That's true. But not many people really have an option to go part-time in their same field, at a remotely decent rate of pay. I'm hoping to do some consulting/project work at least in the short term to stay in the game a bit. Long-term I may have a career change, but we'll see. 
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  • On the business side of things it seems most folks who want PT work still want FT pay.  That just doesn't make financial sense.

    Consulting is a good option, keeps your networks up to date as well as skills.


  • It has become a difficult world we live in.  In my field (law), it is going to be very, very difficult to get back into the game in any meaningful way if you have taken even a couple of years off.  I know people that tried to do it and it didn't work out too well. There is simply too much competition with the latest and greatest graduates of Harvard and Yale that are willing to do your job, work 80  hrs a week for half of what you expect to be paid.   And I live in NYC area - probably one of the best job markets for attorneys in the US.

     

    On the flip side, it is becoming more difficult to find part-time work.  I know my particular employer really does not like granting part-time work.  Believe me, I would love it if they did.

    Flexibility is the key, but still elusive for many working moms out there -- that is, unless you are self employed.

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    This is pretty much the exact reason that I have stayed working part-time even though it really doesn't make a whole lot of financial sense for me to do so.  I still come out ahead financially, but my income does not raise our overall standard of living.  However, I was raised by a woman who found herself single after 33 years of marriage to the same man and she would have been up sh*t creek if she had left the work force when she had kids.

    Edit: I'm an attorney, too, in commercial litigation and I second the pp's comment about the fact that there are too many recent grads out there willing to do your job for half the pay.  

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  • SoMoNY said:
    On the business side of things it seems most folks who want PT work still want FT pay.  That just doesn't make financial sense.

     
    I can't speak in general terms but I took a prety big pay cut, and lost all of my benefits, to go PT.

     

  • *sparky* said:
    SoMoNY said:
    On the business side of things it seems most folks who want PT work still want FT pay.  That just doesn't make financial sense.

     
    I can't speak in general terms but I took a prety big pay cut, and lost all of my benefits, to go PT.

    This should be the standard result of going PT.

    Instead I see more and more folks wanting to be in office less but not give up PTO and benefits.  They are then stunned when we deny request to go PT.


  • amy052006 said:
    *sparky* said:
    SoMoNY said:
    On the business side of things it seems most folks who want PT work still want FT pay.  That just doesn't make financial sense.

     
    I can't speak in general terms but I took a prety big pay cut, and lost all of my benefits, to go PT.

    This should be the standard result of going PT.

    Instead I see more and more folks wanting to be in office less but not give up PTO and benefits.  They are then stunned when we deny request to go PT.


    Well, I went to an employer that offers benefits and PTO for part time employees, so some employers do realize the value it has in attracting and retaining talent.

    I don't think expecting exactly half of what you get for full time work when you propose part time work is really that ridiculous.  
    Your total compensation package includes benefits.

    Does the cost of benefits go down when moving from FT to PT?  Nope so why would a company offer to cover those costs when getting half the production from a worker?


  • SoMoNY said:


    amy052006 said:

    SoMoNY said:


    *sparky* said:


    SoMoNY said:

    On the business side of things it seems most folks who want PT work still want FT pay.  That just doesn't make financial sense.

     
    I can't speak in general terms but I took a prety big pay cut, and lost all of my benefits, to go PT.


    This should be the standard result of going PT.

    Instead I see more and more folks wanting to be in office less but not give up PTO and benefits.  They are then stunned when we deny request to go PT.


    Well, I went to an employer that offers benefits and PTO for part time employees, so some employers do realize the value it has in attracting and retaining talent.

    I don't think expecting exactly half of what you get for full time work when you propose part time work is really that ridiculous.  



    Your total compensation package includes benefits.

    Does the cost of benefits go down when moving from FT to PT?  Nope so why would a company offer to cover those costs when getting half the production from a worker?





    When I went part-time, I was able to keep my benefits, but I had to pay more for health insurance, which seemed fair (to your point.) Extending PTO didn't really cost my particular company more because it's not like they had to hire a temp.

    I worked 75% of my hours and got 75% of my compensation package.
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  • SoMoNY said:
    Thought this was a good article about why moms should work.  I agree 100% with it btw



    why does everyone feel the need to tell moms what they SHOULD do? IMO telling moms they should work, or should work PT, is just as offensive as telling them they should stay home.
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  • SoMoNY said:
    Thought this was a good article about why moms should work.  I agree 100% with it btw



    why does everyone feel the need to tell moms what they SHOULD do? IMO telling moms they should work, or should work PT, is just as offensive as telling them they should stay home.
    I agree.  Every family decides what is best, or does what is necessary, in their own particular circumstances.  Let's all mind our own business.
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  • It's definitely ideal, but there are many positions out there that just aren't available part-time or even companies willing to have you go part-time.  More flexibility would help!
    Yes, more flexibility would be awesome! My mom stayed home with us and then was never able to transition back to working the way she wanted. She has always advocated at least working p-t bc of that. I know I'm a better mom bc I work. But I really wish I could work p-t instead of f-t.

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  • SoMoNY said:
    Thought this was a good article about why moms should work.  I agree 100% with it btw



    why does everyone feel the need to tell moms what they SHOULD do? IMO telling moms they should work, or should work PT, is just as offensive as telling them they should stay home.

    Because the world is tired of hearing moms cry they can't find a job to support their families after divorce?  Because some women believe they can reenter the workforce after a 10 year absence with ease?

    If you read the article you would see it referenced an article about women trying to reenter the work forces and seeing their were few takers for their outdated skills.


  • SoMoNY said:




    SoMoNY said:

    Thought this was a good article about why moms should work.  I agree 100% with it btw




    why does everyone feel the need to tell moms what they SHOULD do? IMO telling moms they should work, or should work PT, is just as offensive as telling them they should stay home.


    Because the world is tired of hearing moms cry they can't find a job to support their families after divorce?  Because some women believe they can reenter the workforce after a 10 year absence with ease?

    If you read the article you would see it referenced an article about women trying to reenter the work forces and seeing their were few takers for their outdated skills.





    I understand what you're saying, and I am truly sorry for stay-at-home moms who end up divorced and having to re-enter the workforce on terms other than their own. But there are also plenty of couples with a SAHM who will have successful marriages and are happy and feel that they did the best thing for THEIR family. You can't tell everyone they should live their lives a certain way just because this bad thing that happens to other people can happen to them. It's their life. If you feel strongly about this, save your lessons for your daughters. Moms are tired of being told what they should and shouldn't do at every turn.

    I did read the article, and the original NYT article, and several responses to it. If I remember correctly, all of the moms were happy with their decision to take time off to be with their kids, even the ones who struggled to find a path back into the workforce. In a separate article, it was revealed that the divorced mom who was 'earning 1/5 of her previous salary' was earning $100,000 a year instead of the $500,000 she made at Oracle.
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  • SoMoNY said:

    Thought this was a good article about why moms should work.  I agree 100% with it btw




    why does everyone feel the need to tell moms what they SHOULD do? IMO telling moms they should work, or should work PT, is just as offensive as telling them they should stay home.


    I see what you're saying but I don't think it's the exact same thing. For years, staying home with your children was considered the default and most ideal option (and that opinion still holds in some circles). There's difference between challenging the conventional wisdom and telling women there's a one-size fits all solution.

    By all means, do what's best for your family and for yourself. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about the pros and cons of our decisions. (And let's face it, she posted this on the WM board where women are looking for support around WORKING. She didn't post this on the SAHM board to change minds. This is like posting a pro-BFing article on the Breastfeeding board. Would you say that's insulting to moms who chose formula?)
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