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  • 529 plus a savings account, it will be a blend of the two. We are contributing a certain amount monthly to the 529 and we will be the mean parents that take most of that birthday money and put it into saving towards college instead of buying more "things" that she doesn't need. We'll make sure she can spend some of it, but she'll appreciate it more when she leaves college with less debt. I totally appreciate that from my mom!

    For 529 selection, I did a bunch of research to decide which state we wanted to do it in and which plan we wanted. We decided on one similar to a Roth IRA instead of a pre-paid plan. So I looked into minimal management on our part with the best returns over a 2, 5 and 10 year period. The second most important part to me were the fees. I went with one that had slightly higher fees but better returns and the ability for me to have some more control if I wanted it down the line.

    Perhaps you would be best off talking to a financial planner?
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  • We are not doing a 529. There were other investment options available to us that made more sense. Our financial advisor, with whom we've been working with for nearly a decade, built this in to our portfolio after DD was born.
  • We have an utma savings, a regular savings, small amount of stock, and we've been buying silver/gold bullion.
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  • 529 plan for college, savings account, mutual funds and stock investments for their future.
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  • Huh.  

    We put a small amount in a 529 plan for each of them because of the tax benefits, but I feel no responsibility to be building a pile of assets specifically for my kids.

    Are other people doing that?  What's the reasoning?  Is it really in your kids' names and/or do you consider it definitely "theirs" or is it sort of earmarked for them but you would use it if you/DH hit a major life curve ball (extended unemployment, disability, tank in net worth, etc)?
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  • We have a college savings account for DD.  My parents have a 529 for her as well. 
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  • 529 only, no other savings yet. Quite proud she already has 18,000 in it at just barely 2! (Grandma writes nice checks for Xmas so this wasn't all us, but the majority was!)
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  • 529 only, no other savings yet. Quite proud she already has 18,000 in it at just barely 2! (Grandma writes nice checks for Xmas so this wasn't all us, but the majority was!)

    Wow this is crazy to me. What DH and I could do with 18,000 dollars today- move to a bigger house or pay off our own student loans.

    We have a 529 for each kid, that we put a minimal amount into every month. And they also have a savings account, but at this point there's not a lot of spare cash after 2grand a month for daycare.

    It always shocks me on here that people seem to have so much money. We are younger parents, had our first at 25, so we're still getting established. Our first priority is to save so we can move from out townhouse to a single home.

    I want to help my kids as much as I am able to, but I also believe in working hard and getting a scholarship. That's how I got through college with minimal debt. Everyone I know in real life has loans to pay off, and i also think it's fine to go to a less expensive school.

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  • Thanks for the responses. I don't really know much about 529's other than it's a way to save for college. I'll look into it. 

     

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  • We're putting the minimum into a 529 and calling it good. That's still way ahead of what I had.
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  • Are other people doing that?  What's the reasoning?  Is it really in your kids' names and/or do you consider it definitely "theirs" or is it sort of earmarked for them but you would use it if you/DH hit a major life curve ball (extended unemployment, disability, tank in net worth, etc)?
    My kids' assets are  completely theirs and I will not tap into it. The funds are to be used for their future; weddings, cars, house down payments,etc...
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  • Huh.  

    We put a small amount in a 529 plan for each of them because of the tax benefits, but I feel no responsibility to be building a pile of assets specifically for my kids.

    Are other people doing that?  What's the reasoning?  Is it really in your kids' names and/or do you consider it definitely "theirs" or is it sort of earmarked for them but you would use it if you/DH hit a major life curve ball (extended unemployment, disability, tank in net worth, etc)?
    My parents had accounts for my brother and I when we were growing up.  They put any gift money we received into it, and I'm sure they put money in as well.  When we were around middle school age, we would get to "keep" some of the gift money to spend then as we wanted, but still put the majority into the account.  

    I suspect my parents borrowed from it occasionally for important things (family trips and/or emergencies), but don't know for sure.  At some point, the money was put into an investment account managed by my parent's advisor.  I remember having a dinner where my father asked us what we'd like to invest in.  I'm pretty sure I said things like make-up and coca cola (once I got old enough to take over the account, I had shares in avon and coke).  

    I was able to use this account to pay for things like a highschool spring break trip to Europe and for a semester abroad in college.  Ultimately, I just used the account for a down payment on our first home.  My college education was the last "big gift" from my parents, so I was lucky enough to have them pay for that.  DH and I plan on doing the same for our kids.

    That being said, my brother had the same thing and I'm pretty sure he wiped his account out long ago on who knows what...
  • We have 529's set up for both kids with small amounts in each : ~$4K for DD1 (age 4) and about $1K for DD2 (age 7 months).

    In addition, we have a good amount of stock that we plan to allocate toward their education.  It consists of bonus awards I've received over the past few years (and a small amount from DH's bonuses).  We just live like we don't have it.  We haven't put it in their 529s because we're thinking private school.  We'd also like to be able to access it in an emergency without the 529 penalty. 

    My parents borrowed to send us to college.  I certainly worked hard, knowing what they sacrificed to send me to college.  My siblings didn't have the same mentality.  I ended up paying back the loans my parents took on my behalf, but they're going to be paying off what they borrowed for my siblings until they die.  Literally.  I want my kids to be able to attend the college of their choice, but they will know that if they f up, we'll pull the funding and they can do it on their own.
  • 529s for both girls.  We put $250 in per month, per child, and that's projected to pay for about half of their college come that time.  The rest of the bill we'll cover as we go. 

     

  • jf198400 said:

    Wow this is crazy to me. What DH and I could do with 18,000 dollars today- move to a bigger house or pay off our own student loans. We have a 529 for each kid, that we put a minimal amount into every month. And they also have a savings account, but at this point there's not a lot of spare cash after 2grand a month for daycare. It always shocks me on here that people seem to have so much money. We are younger parents, had our first at 25, so we're still getting established. Our first priority is to save so we can move from out townhouse to a single home. I want to help my kids as much as I am able to, but I also believe in working hard and getting a scholarship. That's how I got through college with minimal debt. Everyone I know in real life has loans to pay off, and i also think it's fine to go to a less expensive school.
    Dude.  We're 33, still renting, still paying off loans, and years away from a house, if ever.  We're both college educated but found ourselves in low-paying tech jobs in a HCOL area.  Right now we have nothing to set aside for DD, but my goal is to get out of debt and be able to start setting aside money for her.  90% of our friends bought their first homes with money from their parents. I'd rather be able to give her money for school and a house than buy a house ourselves.  We started out in such a big hole, we're still digging out of it, nevermind moving forward.  I hope we can give her a better start in life.
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  • @jf198400 you are not alone.

    We have saving accounts for the kids. We contribute a small amount to monthly and all monetary gifts the kids get are deposited in their accounts as well. DS1 is three and while he doesn't have $18K, he does already have 1.5 years of college tuition to a state university in his account (at the current rate, of course, but still). When I get around to it, the plan is to open two more mutual funds in our name and earmark them for the kids, but we won't be doing a 529, and if the kids don't go to college, they don't get the money.

    We have a few other investments for us only and of course 401K's. We are aggressively saving for us, for retirement and paying off our mortgage. By the time our kids are in college, we will be mortgage free, thus freeing up a lot of cash to help at that time.

    Anyway, maybe we are being selfish, but this is what we think is best.
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    We have a 529 and are putting in a serious amount each month. All cash gifts for DD go into her college account. I aim to have enough in her 529 to fully pay for an in-state college or pay for half of a private college, in which case we'd pay what we can of the difference when the time comes and she may need a part-time campus job. Any excess in the 529 when they graduate (say, if they get a scholarship and don't use all that we saved) can go towards their graduate degree. 

    We aren't setting up separate trust funds or bonds. They'll have to save up for their own down payments and we'll contribute what we can for their wedding but those are not line items in our budget and I don't plan on making them one. We have life insurance that will take care of them in case we pass away, but it's not intended to serve as a large inheritance. 

    btw - Mint has a calculator for college savings under it's "goals" section that helps you estimate how much to put away based on how much you want your child to have available in the 529. It doesn't account for interest though - you have to estimate that yourself. 
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  • jf198400 said:
    529 only, no other savings yet. Quite proud she already has 18,000 in it at just barely 2! (Grandma writes nice checks for Xmas so this wasn't all us, but the majority was!)
    Wow this is crazy to me. What DH and I could do with 18,000 dollars today- move to a bigger house or pay off our own student loans. We have a 529 for each kid, that we put a minimal amount into every month. And they also have a savings account, but at this point there's not a lot of spare cash after 2grand a month for daycare. It always shocks me on here that people seem to have so much money. We are younger parents, had our first at 25, so we're still getting established. Our first priority is to save so we can move from out townhouse to a single home. I want to help my kids as much as I am able to, but I also believe in working hard and getting a scholarship. That's how I got through college with minimal debt. Everyone I know in real life has loans to pay off, and i also think it's fine to go to a less expensive school.

    We are in the same position.  We have a 529 for DS (will open one soon for DD) but we don't contribute to it each month.  My parents give DS money for college on his birthday and Christmas and that's all that is in there.  We also have a savings account for him (will also open on soon for DD) but the only money that goes in there is small amounts given as gifts.

    We didn't really start getting smart with our money until DS was born.  We have done a lot in 3 years, but aren't to the point of serious savings into his 529.  Once we hit other financial goals, however, we will be able to do that (especially when we aren't paying for daycare).  The long-term savings potential in investments is so great, however, that we felt it was important to have a 529 early that way we could maximize the savings.

    To address OP's question.  We liked the 529 savings plan the best.  I researched different 529 plans and determined that my state's plan was not the best.  We choose a state based on the mutual fund options.  We have some in our Roth's that we really like and choose a 529 that had those funds.  We also wanted a 529 that invested like a Roth, one that didn't automatically move investments based on age, and not a pre-paid college plan.

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  • We have a regular savings account that is for her college fund. We put money in it monthly and do not touch it.

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  • We have 529s for them but we are not piling money into them.  My thought on that is that I would like to help with college tuition but I don't feel the need to make huge sacrifices to do so.  There are plenty of ways to fund college and our financial advisor told us that socking away money in a college fund is not the best use of funds.

    That said, we unexpectedly ended up with a decent-sized inheritance from my dad's retirement fund when he passed away last year from cancer.  He was a college professor and I talked with him in his final days and told him I would use that inheritance for the kids' college funds in his honor.  So, we actually have a lot more college money put aside for them than we expected to have, due to unfortunate circumstances.  That money is in an IRA that our financial advisor manages and I just put the required minimum distributions into the 529s annually, plus we contribute small amounts here and there to the 529s.
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  • So this is something that has been weighing on me for the past few years. DH and I make really good money but we are clueless on how to invest it. DH is very risk averse and thinks the stock market is like gambling :). Every year I tell myself to get some books and start thinking about it but it always gets put off. I think a financial advisor might be the best route for us. For those of you who have one, how did you find them? Thanks in advance!

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  • @ss265:  For us, we have worked with a couple of different financial advisors and both were through our banks.  We have accounts with USAA and WellsFargo.  Our first advisor was through USAA and we really liked him, but he moved to a different position and the people who took his place on our account we just didn't feel great about.  Plus with USAA everything had to be done via phone.  We're now working with a WellsFargo banker who is local.  I would say just start with your bank and talk with a few people until you find someone you're comfortable with.
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  • @ss265 We wanted someone local who we could meet with in person.  We researched different national companies and ended up with Edward Jones because we were just starting out, didn't have much money, and they seemed open to working with people with small portfolios.  We had a list of questions and DH cold called different advisors in our metro area.  We chose who to use based on the answer to our questions.  The things that we were looking for were:

    ~ mid career who would have our portfolio for awhile

    ~ planned to stay in the area

    ~ was likeminded to us in how to invest

    ~ understood our short and long-term financial goals

    ~ would advise us based on all aspects of our finances (work retirement accounts, personal savings accounts, kids college accounts, saving for a house, etc.)

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  • We have a 529 plan that we developed with a financial advisor. We don't also have a savings account separate for him, but that is an idea that we might do in the near future.


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  • Huh.  


    We put a small amount in a 529 plan for each of them because of the tax benefits, but I feel no responsibility to be building a pile of assets specifically for my kids.

    Are other people doing that?  What's the reasoning?  Is it really in your kids' names and/or do you consider it definitely "theirs" or is it sort of earmarked for them but you would use it if you/DH hit a major life curve ball (extended unemployment, disability, tank in net worth, etc)?
    The only money we've set aside specifically for DD includes gifts people have given directly to her. But even in two years, that's several thousand dollars. My hope is to never have to touch that money, and if I do, I would still "owe" it to her because it was given in her name for the purpose of spending it on her.

    That said, DH and I have been slow to start a 529 because we live in a state with no income tax so there's no tax benefit for us. We do plan to pay for college but for now we're just generally "saving" in various accounts that aren't earmarked specifically for college. One thing we'd like to do in 2014 is get serious about investing and managing our assets.
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  • jlaOK said:
    jf198400 said:
    529 only, no other savings yet. Quite proud she already has 18,000 in it at just barely 2! (Grandma writes nice checks for Xmas so this wasn't all us, but the majority was!)
    Wow this is crazy to me. What DH and I could do with 18,000 dollars today- move to a bigger house or pay off our own student loans. We have a 529 for each kid, that we put a minimal amount into every month. And they also have a savings account, but at this point there's not a lot of spare cash after 2grand a month for daycare. It always shocks me on here that people seem to have so much money. We are younger parents, had our first at 25, so we're still getting established. Our first priority is to save so we can move from out townhouse to a single home. I want to help my kids as much as I am able to, but I also believe in working hard and getting a scholarship. That's how I got through college with minimal debt. Everyone I know in real life has loans to pay off, and i also think it's fine to go to a less expensive school.

    We are in the same position.  We have a 529 for DS (will open one soon for DD) but we don't contribute to it each month.  My parents give DS money for college on his birthday and Christmas and that's all that is in there.  We also have a savings account for him (will also open on soon for DD) but the only money that goes in there is small amounts given as gifts.

    We didn't really start getting smart with our money until DS was born.  We have done a lot in 3 years, but aren't to the point of serious savings into his 529.  Once we hit other financial goals, however, we will be able to do that (especially when we aren't paying for daycare).  The long-term savings potential in investments is so great, however, that we felt it was important to have a 529 early that way we could maximize the savings.

    To address OP's question.  We liked the 529 savings plan the best.  I researched different 529 plans and determined that my state's plan was not the best.  We choose a state based on the mutual fund options.  We have some in our Roth's that we really like and choose a 529 that had those funds.  We also wanted a 529 that invested like a Roth, one that didn't automatically move investments based on age, and not a pre-paid college plan.

    In our 20s we would not have been able to save a ton for DD either.  But we're in our upper-30s now and DD has about $15K in her savings account and about $1K in a 529 started by my parents.  It's just easier for us b/c we have no debt except a mortgage and are both upper-mgmt. in our careers at this point.  Especially DH. 

    You'll get there. You're just at a much different stage career-wise. 

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  • We're in Canada so things are a bit different. Since birth we have invested $2k per year per child and the gov't tops that investment up by $500 annually. Every penny the have received in birthday money or whatever has gone into their accounts. I have religiously put $25 per week in their personal accounts since they were born. They should each have more than $80k ready for when they are ready to enter post secondary. DH and I are firm in our personal belief that part of our job for our kids is that they finish post secondary debt free. But we are older parents and in a stable financial place. If we had become parents in our early twenties, no way we could be doing this. On the other hand , if our kids were entering post secondary now (we're in our 40s) we would manage their school bills in real time.
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  • @jf198400 I agree with kids working hard for what they have.  My parents paid for my undergraduate degree and I left with a 2.9.  I paid for my graduate degree and graduated with 4.0, this is with a full time job. 

    My parents paid for my undergrad degree and I left with a 3.8. I got a scholarship for grad school and dropped out after a year (partially due to funding issues). So it doesn't always work that way. 

    We're opening a 529 for DD (she's 3 months right now) and we'll contribute to it monthly, but probably not a ton. Our families have also agreed to put money into that account in lieu of gifts and DH's grandmother is contributing a large chunk for inheritance. We accept that we likely won't be able to pay 100% of her college costs (especially if we have another child) and we're alright with that. She can work hard and get scholarships or take out some loans. 

    DH and I were lucky that our parents/grandparents paid for our college and we had zero debt, but we have a completely different financial situation than them so it's not right to compare the two (we pay $1K a month for daycare- neither of our parents paid for child care for example).
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  • We haven't started yet, but I've talked to DH about opening a 529 plan and contributing to it, but also want to set up a Uniform Transfer to Minor Act account for her. It's taxable, but it's free range on what it can be used for, that way if she gets an awesome scholarship then she/we wouldn't be penalized for not using the monies for educational purposes. I'd like to start that soon, but DH doesn't have a high income job and we're trying to pay off my student loans quickly and save up for a house too. We'll probably open and contribute small amounts for now till we have been income stream (and less debt :( )
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  • @jf198400 I agree with kids working hard for what they have.  My parents paid for my undergraduate degree and I left with a 2.9.  I paid for my graduate degree and graduated with 4.0, this is with a full time job. 

    Same with me. I know it doesn't always work that way but it did for me. I valued my graduate degree more because I really understood how much work went into funding it.

    We haven't started a separate account for our LO yet. We're underwater on our mortgage and are currently trying to dig ourselves out of this hole. In a year or two when we're out of this mess, we'll start looking at our options. If it comes down to us, or our kids, having to take out student loans to pay for school so be it. Student loans suck but if they're taken out responsibly, they aren't the end of the world. I'm only 2 years out of grad school and we only have about a year left on my loans from grad school.
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  • We put 500/month per kid in 529, but are going to throttle that back a little next year because we are moving to a more expensive home and out mortgage costs are going up. After a year or two, we will dial the contributions back up. We also max out our 401k's, so we are doing good with savings... Our financial planner says we are not the norm-- but we were fortunate not to have a lot of debt. I had scholarships for 90 percent if college and law school, and my husband went to state school and his parents paid then engineering grad school on fellowship. If my kids get scholarships, we will just cash out the 529s, but even with scholarships , there's likely to be one or more of my kids that will use the $$ for qualified expenses.
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  • Right now we have an independent 529 plan we are doing and thinking of adding a standard 529 plan as well.

    I don't go nuts contributing to them because they make student loans for college but there are no loan options for retirement.  More important to pay myself over the boys having a free ride through college.


  • In a way we have already saved - my husband's in the Army. She will be using his GI bill to attend college.
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