Meeting with my boss update

cpm1223 · October 2013

I met with my boss on Friday afternoon. It was a performance review (sort of...my boss goes off on tangents sometimes and the focus becomes the whole company rather than just me) and all in all it was uneventful.

He mentioned that the company as a whole (theres only 8 of us total) need to get back to basics, back to being in a routine, etc. which I agree with since we're all basically flying by the seat of our pants and have been for a year.

We talked about all of the things I do and I brought up the fact that I'm doing the job of two people. He also brought up ONE thing that I forgot to enter into out computer...a check that was written by someone and they didn't tell me about it...found out at the end of the month and I added it in. But he seemed to hold it against me and said that I should have seen it on the bank account before the end of the month. Ok, so one thing in the past year that I screwed up on, and lets overlook the fact that I'm doing two peoples jobs here....

At the end of the meeting I said to him "last time we met, we talked about me having more responsibility and since I've been doing all the things you asked, I feel as though I deserve a pay increase." He brought up that one thing that I missed last month (the check I didn't enter) and then said that we need to first get back to the basics blah blah blah....so no more $ for me. He did say that we'd revisit this in "a couple of months" OH OK, so when I'm on maternity leave SAAAWWEEET, asshole!

Arrgcr · October 2013

Ugh. Jerk.

alinafed · October 2013

I'm so sorry to hear that. He doesn't sound like a very good manager. And also (to your boss) let go of the cheque thing, it sounds like you are doing pretty good if he can only find one mistake while you are doing two people's jobs!

fredtheredhead2 · October 2013

Wow. Your boss sounds like a jerk.

cpm1223 · October 2013

It's like he knows I can't leave either. I can't give up my health insurance, maternity leave, and a (shitty) paycheck...so I'm stuck and it sucks.

Dishylo · October 2013

I'm sorry the meeting didn't go the way you had hoped. It sounds like you might be working for a small-ish company and your boss is just trying to save money. The cheque thing is a stupid excuse for not giving somebody a raise. People make mistakes every day of the bloody week so once in a year is kind of awesome.

Also, did he bring up this cheque issue when it happened or just Friday?

Perhaps you need to think about moving on somewhere else when you're back from mat leave?

LuGal623 · October 2013

Oh no, what an asshole! Sorry that went the COMPLETE opposite from how I thought. I would still set up a meeting with him in a month to go over the doing the work of two people and maybe clarify or quantify to him your pros vs the ONE con that he can't forget. I would fight for it because you deserve it.

km_md · October 2013

Wow, what a tool! I'm sorry that your meeting didn't go better ((hugs))

sunnyplaces · October 2013

Ugh, I hate that crap. Maybe you could send him an email (good to have things in writing so he can be held accountable) thanking him for the review (ugh) and reminding him of his promise to revisit the pay increase. Sounds like he's a slow mover but at least you'll be keeping him accountable AND maybe your maternity leave is perfect timing. You've been successfully completing the work of two, maybe he'll finally see just how much you contribute! Good luck and keep us posted!

sugarland726 · October 2013

Ugh. What a dick!

cpm1223 · October 2013

Dishylo said:

I'm sorry the meeting didn't go the way you had hoped. It sounds like you might be working for a small-ish company and your boss is just trying to save money. The cheque thing is a stupid excuse for not giving somebody a raise. People make mistakes every day of the bloody week so once in a year is kind of awesome.

Also, did he bring up this cheque issue when it happened or just Friday?

Perhaps you need to think about moving on somewhere else when you're back from mat leave?

Yes a very small company and he's the owner...he has no problem giving himself a nice hefty paycheck of course (no joke 10X what I make and that's not an exaggeration!) I honestly feel bad for everyone else here too, since he said he wouldn't be giving anyone more $ until we "get back to basics" so it's not just me that's getting screwed here. But I will be the only one who's going to be on mat leave when he "revisits" the raise/compensation plan.

He just brought it up (the check) on Friday, even though it had happened a week before.

I have a lot to think about in terms of how long I can put up with this crap....

cpm1223 · October 2013

sunnyplaces said:

Ugh, I hate that crap. Maybe you could send him an email (good to have things in writing so he can be held accountable) thanking him for the review (ugh) and reminding him of his promise to revisit the pay increase. Sounds like he's a slow mover but at least you'll be keeping him accountable AND maybe your maternity leave is perfect timing. You've been successfully completing the work of two, maybe he'll finally see just how much you contribute! Good luck and keep us posted!

Seriously! I can't wait for this. He's not planning on having anyone temporarily replace me, so he and his wife are going to handle it...HA, good luck!

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peanutmuse · October 2013

Um, wtf. I'd be pissed.

Dishylo · October 2013

cpm1223 said:

Yes a very small company and he's the owner...he has no problem giving himself a nice hefty paycheck of course (no joke 10X what I make and that's not an exaggeration!) I honestly feel bad for everyone else here too, since he said he wouldn't be giving anyone more $ until we "get back to basics" so it's not just me that's getting screwed here. But I will be the only one who's going to be on mat leave when he "revisits" the raise/compensation plan.
He just brought it up (the check) on Friday, even though it had happened a week before.
I have a lot to think about in terms of how long I can put up with this crap....

It's annoying when people don't bring up issues as and when they occur but use them later on to back up their position.

If I remember correctly, you didn't seem too thrilled with this job a few weeks/months ago? Maybe this is just one more thing telling you that it's not the right fit for you, who knows. But having maternity leave coming up could be a blessing as it'll give you time to really think about what you want and if you're happy where you are.

cpm1223 · October 2013

@Dishylo I'm mostly unhappy because I feel like I'm doing so much for such a small amount of money! I was the administrative assistant to the office manager for about 4 years here, she randomly quit last September, and ever since then, I took over ALL of her duties and got the "Office Manager" title, but no additional compensation.

Basically my boss is saving the $65,000/year he would have been paying her if she didn't quit, by making me the office manager and admin assistant. I'm not getting paid even close to the amount that she was when she was here. I'm still making the same $ I was being the admin ass.

If I was getting paid what I believe was a fair amount of $, I do think I'd be happier with my job. I just feel so under appreciated around here.

goldenB · October 2013

That's really shitty.

Maybe when you are on mat leave you can start to look for a new job?

Also, do you think he is not giving you a raise because you are pregnant?

valigrl21 · October 2013

cpm1223 said:

It's like he knows I can't leave either. I can't give up my health insurance, maternity leave, and a (shitty) paycheck...so I'm stuck and it sucks.

Yuck! Sorry it totally sucks to be under appreciated! Hopefully in 6 months or a year, once you get back from maternity leave you can start looking for a new job that will recognize your hard work.

cpm1223 · October 2013

goldenB said:

That's really shitty.
Maybe when you are on mat leave you can start to look for a new job?
Also, do you think he is not giving you a raise because you are pregnant?

I'll absolutely be thinking about it while on leave.

Honestly no, I don't think it's because I'm pregnant. I do think it's because he doesn't want to spend any more $. I'd just love for him to live on MY salary for one month and see how far it gets him...

Dishylo · October 2013

cpm1223 said:

Basically my boss is saving the $65,000/year he would have been paying her if she didn't quit, by making me the office manager and admin assistant. I'm not getting paid even close to the amount that she was when she was here. I'm still making the same $ I was being the admin ass.
If I was getting paid what I believe was a fair amount of $, I do think I'd be happier with my job. I just feel so under appreciated around here.

You're no ass!!

I know how you feel though. I was doing the work of 2 people at my last job in the UK and was definitely under compensated. It became clear to me after two meetings with my bosses that there was no more money to be spent on salaries either as a raise or to employ new staff.

I made the decision to leave but it was easier for me as DH and I left the country to start a new life. I hope they smarten up, you deserve to be compensated for the work you do!

bethughknee · October 2013

Are you sure we don't work for the same person?? This sounds EXACTLY how performance reviews go at my job too. I'm really sorry it went this way. UGH.

bethughknee · October 2013

cpm1223 said:

@Dishylo I'm mostly unhappy because I feel like I'm doing so much for such a small amount of money! I was the administrative assistant to the office manager for about 4 years here, she randomly quit last September, and ever since then, I took over ALL of her duties and got the "Office Manager" title, but no additional compensation.
Basically my boss is saving the $65,000/year he would have been paying her if she didn't quit, by making me the office manager and admin assistant. I'm not getting paid even close to the amount that she was when she was here. I'm still making the same $ I was being the admin ass.
If I was getting paid what I believe was a fair amount of $, I do think I'd be happier with my job. I just feel so under appreciated around here.

This sounds a lot like MH's current work situation. He's had to take over the positions of other people and has gotten fancier titles...but not the pay increase. After bonus season and after he's able to take a couple weeks when LO is born, I want him to start looking at other options. Sometimes all the kick in the pants that a boss needs is the fear of losing someone he knows is working for less than they should be. I think you should job hunt after your leave and see what giving notice does for your leverage...

SvedkaStoli · October 2013

What a jerk!

ChuggingWater · October 2013

Grrrrr. I hate feeling underappreciated. I'm sorry you are, too. It stinks.

::chest bump::

HappyDoc · October 2013

cpm1223 said:

@Dishylo I'm mostly unhappy because I feel like I'm doing so much for such a small amount of money! I was the administrative assistant to the office manager for about 4 years here, she randomly quit last September, and ever since then, I took over ALL of her duties and got the "Office Manager" title, but no additional compensation.
Basically my boss is saving the $65,000/year he would have been paying her if she didn't quit, by making me the office manager and admin assistant. I'm not getting paid even close to the amount that she was when she was here. I'm still making the same $ I was being the admin ass.
If I was getting paid what I believe was a fair amount of $, I do think I'd be happier with my job. I just feel so under appreciated around here.

How about this.... you tell him that having the responsibilities of your new title "Office Manager" are too overwhelming for you without an assistant. So he can either look into hiring you an administrative assistant, let you step back to your role as administrative assistant and hire an office manager, or give you a hefty raise. If he doesn't agree, I think it is seriously time to start looking for another job. Of course, timing is important, as I don't want him to make your life miserable until your maternity leave, so maybe consider pitching this to him after you return from maternity leave, as he will also have a better idea of what you do everyday.

daltosostarby · October 2013

Ugh. He sounds like a complete ass. Sorry you have to deal with that!

Dishylo · October 2013

HappyDoc said:

How about this.... you tell him that having the responsibilities of your new title "Office Manager" are too overwhelming for you without an assistant. So he can either look into hiring you an administrative assistant, let you step back to your role as administrative assistant and hire an office manager, or give you a hefty raise. If he doesn't agree, I think it is seriously time to start looking for another job. Of course, timing is important, as I don't want him to make your life miserable until your maternity leave, so maybe consider pitching this to him after you return from maternity leave, as he will also have a better idea of what you do everyday.

This. It's unlikely that anything will happen until after you go on mat leave. If he doesn't get in touch with you whilst you're on mat leave, I'd wait a few weeks after returning and ask for another meeting. If he's STILL not interested in compensating you for the job that you are doing, you need to look into other possibilities.

However, I would go into that latter meeting prepared. Know what he was paying the lady who quit last year, what you're getting paid (substantially less than office manager but same title) and also, what comparable salaries are for your role in similar companies. By giving him this sort of information, it's much harder for him to dismiss you.

ccip82 · October 2013

I am sorry, that really sucks. I agree with the others, he sounds like a total ass

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