Hey! Have you guys met my friend...(gif story)

Poppy715 · October 2013

@mlal78?

She's smart, funny and the nicest person I've never met.

But most of all she has the biggest heart.

She always has something kind to say about everyone:

She does it because she actually cares. She's not one of these people:

I wish I could be just like her when I grow up but

She is always giving out (((hugs)))

I know her and I do think she has a big heart.

(I can't take credit for this badge) but if you know what's up I think @mlal78 should get your vote for

Poppy715 · October 2013

I just adore Mlal and want to make sure she gets recognized for how wonderful a person she is! The world needs to recognize! Lol

jenkellen · October 2013

Yay! Love this.

gingerkid9989 · October 2013

Awesome Poppy!! You're awesome. And so is mlal!

EKGibs · October 2013

lindsayhilleary said:

You're amazing, Poppy, and so is @mlal78 !!!

PS I love your badge (and I'm totally $:\$ "> that I made the cut!)

All of this!

uneek1323 · October 2013

I love Mlal - she knows that and I hope she understands that this next comment has nothing to do with how much I love her.

Am I wrong in thinking that voting is anonymous? I thought it was, but maybe that's been changed and I didn't see it.

Poppy715 · October 2013

uneek1323 said:

I love Mlal - she knows that and I hope she understands that this next comment has nothing to do with how much I love her.

Am I wrong in thinking that voting is anonymous? I thought it was, but maybe that's been changed and I didn't see it.

I thought we were allowed to campaign. Not only for ourselves but for our friends. Why is it ok to say I should win something and not someone else. We nominated them. Those weren't secret Im not voting, I'm campaigning.

uneek1323 · October 2013

Poppy715 said:

uneek1323 said:

I love Mlal - she knows that and I hope she understands that this next comment has nothing to do with how much I love her.

Am I wrong in thinking that voting is anonymous? I thought it was, but maybe that's been changed and I didn't see it.

I thought we were allowed to campaign. Not only for ourselves but for our friends. Why is it ok to say I should win something and not someone else. We nominated them. Those weren't secret Im not voting, I'm campaigning.

I thought we could nominate other people because you can nominate any number of people. It's campaigning where you can only campaign for yourself. Again, I could be wrong and this has changed so that's why I was asking. I can just see many issues arising by campaigning others - well, to be honest, (MOST HONEST!) (HA! That was funny. FUNNIEST!) they already have. But like I said, if it's been decided that you can campaign for other people then so be it.

Poppy715 · October 2013

uneek1323 said:

Poppy715 said:

uneek1323 said:

I love Mlal - she knows that and I hope she understands that this next comment has nothing to do with how much I love her.

Am I wrong in thinking that voting is anonymous? I thought it was, but maybe that's been changed and I didn't see it.

I thought we were allowed to campaign. Not only for ourselves but for our friends. Why is it ok to say I should win something and not someone else. We nominated them. Those weren't secret Im not voting, I'm campaigning.

I thought we could nominate other people because you can nominate any number of people. It's campaigning where you can only campaign for yourself. Again, I could be wrong and this has changed so that's why I was asking. I can just see many issues arising by campaigning others - well, to be honest, (MOST HONEST!) (HA! That was funny. FUNNIEST!) they already have. But like I said, if it's been decided that you can campaign for other people then so be it.

I thought it was all for fun. I just don't see why it's ok to spam the board with vote for me in every category when there are so many great ladies. I don't want people to vote for me for everything. I think Mlal has a huge part and people should vote for her. If you were worried about hurt feelings wouldn't that apply to nominations too? I honestly think every lady nominated in whichever category could win. The nominations fit. I know M and how wonderful she is. She's been very good to me since I joined. I just don't think it's a big deal. Im not voting. People will vote for who they know. Its all in good fun.

uneek1323 · October 2013

Poppy715 said:

uneek1323 said:

Poppy715 said:

uneek1323 said:

I love Mlal - she knows that and I hope she understands that this next comment has nothing to do with how much I love her.

Am I wrong in thinking that voting is anonymous? I thought it was, but maybe that's been changed and I didn't see it.

I thought we were allowed to campaign. Not only for ourselves but for our friends. Why is it ok to say I should win something and not someone else. We nominated them. Those weren't secret Im not voting, I'm campaigning.

I thought we could nominate other people because you can nominate any number of people. It's campaigning where you can only campaign for yourself. Again, I could be wrong and this has changed so that's why I was asking. I can just see many issues arising by campaigning others - well, to be honest, (MOST HONEST!) (HA! That was funny. FUNNIEST!) they already have. But like I said, if it's been decided that you can campaign for other people then so be it.

I thought it was all for fun. I just don't see why it's ok to spam the board with vote for me in every category when there are so many great ladies. I don't want people to vote for me for everything. I think Mlal has a huge part and people should vote for her. If you were worried about hurt feelings wouldn't that apply to nominations too? I honestly think every lady nominated in whichever category could win. The nominations fit. I know M and how wonderful she is. She's been very good to me since I joined. I just don't think it's a big deal. Im not voting. People will vote for who they know. Its all in good fun.

I feel like this is going in a direction that I didn't intend. I was asking for clarification. I've had people PM me already today about this so I was finding out what the protocol was. It wasn't like this last year, to my memory (which is fine, again) so I wondered if there had been a change.

Poppy715 · October 2013

uneek1323 said:

Poppy715 said:

uneek1323 said:

Poppy715 said:

uneek1323 said:

I love Mlal - she knows that and I hope she understands that this next comment has nothing to do with how much I love her.

Am I wrong in thinking that voting is anonymous? I thought it was, but maybe that's been changed and I didn't see it.

I thought we were allowed to campaign. Not only for ourselves but for our friends. Why is it ok to say I should win something and not someone else. We nominated them. Those weren't secret Im not voting, I'm campaigning.

I thought we could nominate other people because you can nominate any number of people. It's campaigning where you can only campaign for yourself. Again, I could be wrong and this has changed so that's why I was asking. I can just see many issues arising by campaigning others - well, to be honest, (MOST HONEST!) (HA! That was funny. FUNNIEST!) they already have. But like I said, if it's been decided that you can campaign for other people then so be it.

I thought it was all for fun. I just don't see why it's ok to spam the board with vote for me in every category when there are so many great ladies. I don't want people to vote for me for everything. I think Mlal has a huge part and people should vote for her. If you were worried about hurt feelings wouldn't that apply to nominations too? I honestly think every lady nominated in whichever category could win. The nominations fit. I know M and how wonderful she is. She's been very good to me since I joined. I just don't think it's a big deal. Im not voting. People will vote for who they know. Its all in good fun.

I feel like this is going in a direction that I didn't intend. I was asking for clarification. I've had people PM me already today about this so I was finding out what the protocol was. It wasn't like this last year, to my memory (which is fine, again) so I wondered if there had been a change.

The way I understood is we could campaign. I don't know if it is limited to just for yourself. That's not how I took it. And I'm glad you said it doesn't have be like last year. It doesn't, you are right. I guess we need to ask Pink Camino or do a CP and ask the board to clarify.

uneek1323 · October 2013

Poppy715 said:

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The way I understood is we could campaign. I don't know if it is limited to just for yourself. That's not how I took it. And I'm glad you said it doesn't have be like last year. It doesn't, you are right. I guess we need to ask Pink Camino or do a CP and ask the board to clarify.

Ok I'm just going to be honest (Most Honest) and come out and say it. I think campaigning for other people like you have perpetuates the cliques on this board. *GASP!* There are cliques on this board?? I know this will come as a shock to some people, but, yes, there are. And I'm not the only one who feels this way. Campaigning hasn't even been going on for 24 hours as of this post and the amount of PM's I've received from concerned members of this board is crazy. I get that this is supposed to be all in good fun, and all in all I think it is fun, but there are aspects to it that can make many members intimidated because it highlights the cliques. Campaigning for others makes this a million times worse, in my opinion. I may be the only one who feels that way - or the only who will speak up about it - and that's ok. It's because of my BIGGEST HEART and UNEEK personality that makes me HONEST and FUNNY.

Poppy715 · October 2013

snegde said:

uneek1323 said:

Poppy715 said:

*snip*

The way I understood is we could campaign. I don't know if it is limited to just for yourself. That's not how I took it. And I'm glad you said it doesn't have be like last year. It doesn't, you are right. I guess we need to ask Pink Camino or do a CP and ask the board to clarify.

Ok I'm just going to be honest (Most Honest) and come out and say it. I think campaigning for other people like you have perpetuates the cliques on this board. *GASP!* There are cliques on this board?? I know this will come as a shock to some people, but, yes, there are. And I'm not the only one who feels this way. Campaigning hasn't even been going on for 24 hours as of this post and the amount of PM's I've received from concerned members of this board is crazy. I get that this is supposed to be all in good fun, and all in all I think it is fun, but there are aspects to it that can make many members intimidated because it highlights the cliques. Campaigning for others makes this a million times worse, in my opinion. I may be the only one who feels that way - or the only who will speak up about it - and that's ok. It's because of my BIGGEST HEART and UNEEK personality that makes me HONEST and FUNNY.

I agree that campaigning for others perpetuates cliques but if we are being honest your tiger badge does the exact same thing. I am not saying one is right or wrong I just was pointing it out.

I guess I just don't get it. I don't see how becoming close with certain ladies makes me clique. I've never got given support to someone because they weren't my friend. I think the board welcomes everyone. As you will notice I didn't nominate most of the women in my badge. Lots of people did and agreed. We also encouraged newbies to nominate people. There was a whole post about it.

I've gotten to know these ladies closely over the past 8 or 9 months. They check up in me, PM me when things are tough. I don't see that as cliquey. I see it as being a good friend and doing what the board indents for us to do, support one another. It's natural for people to make closer friends and friendships in a group this size.
I also totally agree with @snegde about the badge. When you were asked about it you said it was for a close group of friends. How is that not clique behavior and campaigning for someone, who was already nominated, is?

Poppy715 · October 2013

ktlovess said:

Poppy715 said:

Poppy715 said:

*snip*

*snip*
I guess I just don't get it. I don't see how becoming close with certain ladies makes me clique. I've never got given support to someone because they weren't my friend. I think the board welcomes everyone. As you will notice I didn't nominate most of the women in my badge. Lots of people did and agreed. We also encouraged newbies to nominate people. There was a whole post about it. I've gotten to know these ladies closely over the past 8 or 9 months. They check up in me, PM me when things are tough. I don't see that as cliquey. I see it as being a good friend and doing what the board indents for us to do, support one another. It's natural for people to make closer friends and friendships in a group this size. I also totally agree with @snegde about the badge. When you were asked about it you said it was for a close group of friends. How is that not clique behavior and campaigning for someone, who was already nominated, is?

I don't know, and I can see it both ways. Case in point - I posted after Uneek and don't know if my post was taken into consideration at all. It's a difficult situation, and it is hard to fit in to a group of women that has been together for as long as everyone here has (I have only been here less than 2 months, and I don't necessarily feel welcomed always...) Maybe we could have a CP (as you stated earlier) asking other people's opinion about the matter, especially since it is anonymous.

You have to jump in. I felt the same way you did. I see how a board this size can be intimidating. Not too many, but still more than I'd like, months ago I was in your same shoes. Everyone is new at some point. I didn’t have any friends when I first got here. It takes time to get to know one another. The ladies in my badge have been there for me through all the tough stuff. I hope you have the same amount of support! It just not instant. You build relationships through PM’s and putting in the time. It goes back to giving and getting support. I didn’t have a group of friends here when I first joined. I didn’t know anyone.

Honest question for you with no snark or ill intent. What would make you feel more welcome? We have all the check-ins for a reason. That’s how you build relationships. I know some people don’t enjoy them but that is one way to stay involved and have a core group for support.

I just wanted to touch on Humprey and Ellie as well. Those are board mascots. There is a link for each in the blog. They are not exclusionary. I believe the blog requests that you be a member of the community to use them and add them into your signature.

I think the difference between my badge and being cliquey is the intent. I would NEVER want to hurt anyone. I saw no harm in telling people to vote for those I think perfectly illustrate the category they are nominated in. I love these ladies and obviously they were nominated so they are eligible to win. We had open nominations with basically no restrictions. Anyone could be nominated. I just don’t see being closer with some ladies as partaking in being exclusive.

Also it’s easy to say “the same people were nominated over and over”. They are usually the names I see most often. They are here day in and day out giving support. They don’t come in for a few days and then disappear. They run check-ins and oodles of support. We can’t say a brand newbie is exemplary in a category because we don’t really know them well enough. It’s easy to vote for those you know the most about. I really hate that something that is supposed to be fun and lighthearted is being overshadowed with negativity. Like you said @Ktlovess I’d love to do a CP and see what the board consensus is.

Poppy715 · October 2013

snegde said:

Just a reminder we were all new once. It's only natural that the longer you have been here you are going to fill closer with certain people, often the ones who have been here as long as you have or longer. I came here as a newbie, less than 500 posts, the board seemed intimidating when I joined but that didn't mean I sat back and waited for someone to like me. When I intro'd maybe 10 people responded. Seriously. Let's remember that this is a supportive environment but it's not real life so try not to make it anymore serious than it needs to be. PS I am a registered independent and do not endorse any particular parties that goes for here and in the US of A. Peace, love, and remember what's important. Kisses.

Totally agree. The awards are meant to be fun. Not life or death.

Poppy715 · October 2013

ktlovess said:

snegde said:

Thank you @Poppy715. I am not sure how to feel more welcome and I don't want to just bring any more negativity into this. I understand it's supposed to be for fun. I just wanted people to see the other side of things. I understand better about a number of topics through PMs and clarification on here, so thanks.

I don't understand what you mean by other side? Please clarify.
Sorry for my crypticness - other side = newbie side. That's all.
But that's just silly. Did you read my post? I was a newbie!
I did, @snegde. Everyone was a newbie once - I know ... in the long run, as you said, it doesn't really matter. It is not a huge thing and it is not real life.
ETA - sometimes I don't make sense and I have a difficult time getting my point across. I think this is one of those times.

I'm wondering why you have these feelings of not belonging. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but look at your siggy! You were nominated for Rookie of the Year! That's a huge award. I think you are clearly a valued member of this board, even being new. I just wanted to explain why it feels like there are closer groups of friends. We've been here a bit longer and have had more time together. That's why we all know and love each other.

LifeofCat · October 2013

I thought the OP was sweet.

I should not have read the rest of the discussion whooooooopssss

It's quite intimidating as a newbie, I'll be honest, but I'm starting to understand that it's much more than a discussion board. It's got a strong sense of community, and reminds me of roller derby in a way (I'm taking a leave of absence now but had been skating for 3 years); there will always be new skaters, and there will always be room and acceptance for new skaters in our strange wonderful community, but you can't deny that some of the veterans will form really tight bonds, and you can't take that personally... as long as we're all kind to each other.

My only current fear is that when I give people some love, or T&P, that they don't think it's genuine because I am new and do not have close ties yet. Just gonna put it out there that it is genuine, and that I'm always wishing the best for all of you.

That's right, I de-railed the conversation and made it about roller derby & me haha

jap618 · October 2013

So a clique is defined as (per Wikipedia) "persons who interact with each other more regularly and intensely than others in the same setting" which is more nicely put by @LifeofCat: "there will always be new skaters, and there will always be room and acceptance for new skaters in our strange wonderful community, but you can't deny that some of the veterans will form really tight bonds, and you can't take that personally... as long as we're all kind to each other."

So while we are closer to some than others it is very cliquey and can hurt feelings. I think in general the campaigning should be for ourselves and not others based on the hurt feelings (this does not need to turn into Mean Girls). I mean I wish we could all be like:

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But we don't want others to feel like:

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So lets just:

And in particular, you should vote for Jap618 for Most Generous Lover or Most Active Poster.

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