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XH has a license to carry.

Let me first say I KNOW I can't control this.  I know. I just don't like it.

XH has had a gun permit for sometime now. He had a gun in our home, but I insisted he keep it up in our closet shelf and unloaded. 

He mentioned last week he was going to take the class and test to have a license to carry.  When he called to tell me that he picked up DD from daycare,  she felt the gun and holster under his jacket and asked him what it was.

Okay.  I get that you like carrying a gun around XH, but did you really need to carry it into the daycare?  I questioned this and he said I was right. He'd remember to leave it in the truck next time.

In our state, with a permit, apparently you can carry it anywhere but not in a bar or where signs are posted.  They signs were pretty prevalent when the law passed a couple years ago, but you don't see them so much anymore.   My daycare does not have a sign posted.

I am not opposed to guns.  I believe we are all entitled to own a gun, and even carry it when we feel the need, but just for the hell of it? I just find it incredibly excessive that people get their permit to carry and then have the gun on them at all times.  We live in a relatively safe state and city.  I just do not see the purpose.

Again, I know I can't do anything about. I just don't like it and I do my best to shut it when talking to him.  Which, I guess, is why I'm here bitching about it.

"he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval

Re: XH has a license to carry.

  • Honestly, I don't know.  I think concealed because I don't think he would have it on him in a daycare if it weren't covered up.

    He had been carrying it in his glove compartment.  I'm going to have to check the laws because I thought you couldn't carry a loaded weapon in a vehicle.  Ammo must be separate.  That might just be a shot gun, and I think it needs to be in it's case.

    I wondered about schools.  But I think if you are over 21 and have a license to carry, you can carry it in a school. 

    I'll have to read up on the laws.  I was not concerned with it, but since he's carrying...I am curious.  I've considered getting one for my home for protection now that I'm single and have a child to think about but I don't feel compelled to carry it on me or even in my car.

     

    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
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  • This makes me glad to live in NJ where I have never once in my 39 years seen someone carrying a gun unless they were a polic officer. Not to say no one does but a concealed license is almost impossible to get here so unless you are hunting it is rare for someone to have a gun out of their house and ownership on handguns is rare. My brother hunts but none of my friends. Not one if my friends has a gun.
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • That would freak me out. I don't like guns in general but I wouldn't ever want someone carrying one into daycare.
  • Eh, I don't like guns myself, but my H has one on him just about all the time. He carries everywhere allowed and only puts it in the glove box when he is going somewhere it is not allowed. Its something we after to disagree on. The only thing we knew we had to compromise on was the safety and access of it in our house or in the vehicle because that is where the kidsMay nude able to get their hands on it. H is responsible with it so I have little else to say. And he does keep one way for me to handle at home within my reach when he is at work since he works 24hr shifts.

    I think gun safety is something all parents should agree on. Unfortunately, even if he agrees to your face, it would be so easy for him to just do whatever he wants at home. I hate it for you, though.
  • Well you're looking for a new daycare right?  I would definitely make note of which ones have a sign saying "no guns".  Couldn't daycares be considered schools?  Mine has a preschool in it, do they all have that?  
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  • I don't know if they are unless they actually teach formal pre-school, and mine does not. I will most certainly check and request that they do if they don't and I will tell them why. 

    I don't agree with XH's "gun practices".  His brother lives in Dallas and keeps a loaded pistol on his night stand.  While I would not have it right there on my night stand, I'd have it handy in a larger city. 

    XH I think thought that was cool. He wanted to do the same and I said Hell Fucking NO. I know XH.  He will not be diligent enough for me. DD has been injured just shy of a hospital trip with him more times than I care to have happen. And it's always, "I had just turned my back" or "I didn't leave her more than a second". 

    I'll be looking into this. He just took the class and has his license, so he has to know the laws.  He doesn't want the trouble, so I do believe he will follow the proper procedure of carrying in public, but then again...he interprets things in his own way too.

     

    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • My biggest concern would be that he takes gun safety seriously.  Does he put the gun away when he is not using it and take out all of the bullets? 

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  • He does not remove the clip, no. He said that there is not a bullet in the chamber. He would have to cock it to do that. He told me when we were still married that he didnt see the point in having a gun if he had to fumble for the bullets and put them in to kill an intruder. Again, if we lived in a major city with crime, i could understand a little. He lives in a tiny town just outside of my city. Its practically Mayberry. His carrying it is an ego thing. I just don't think its necessary and yold him that he better be diligent with DD because if anything ever happens to her there better be another one on that gun for him because he will have me to answer to. I dropped the conversation at that point. He knows how I feel. I am not discussing it with him and I will just have to do what I can to teach DD to be safe. Two things tho have crossed my mind. R's meth head ex could still be an issue, and XH is becoming a bit of a paranoid. He referred to the mall situation in Africa as reason for this. Granted no on could dream of Newtown or the Aurora theater shooting but i think the chances of that happening are probably slimmer than winning the lottery.
    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
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    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • wendilea said:



    This makes me glad to live in NJ where I have never once in my 39 years seen someone carrying a gun unless they were a polic officer. Not to say no one does but a concealed license is almost impossible to get here so unless you are hunting it is rare for someone to have a gun out of their house and ownership on handguns is rare. My brother hunts but none of my friends. Not one if my friends has a gun.

    I'm sorry Jen, I had to giggle.  What's the crime rate in NJ?  I've been in Trenton, alone, at night, and I can guarantee there were people carrying, permit or not.

    Lol, I almost spit out my food. Yeah, not saying there are no guns and there is certainly crime in the most populated state especially in The cities. FWIW I have been on trips to the state hous three times and missed a turn once but besides that have never been to Trenton.

    Luckily I do not hang out with a lot if criminals so I am not normally a round the people that have illegal guns. We do not have open carry so while I know that it is legal in other states the idea of a gun on your body and not being an officer is so foreign to me. I truly do not understand why someone feels the need to carry a gun unless they are doing something specifically dangerous. But I also realize people from Texas probably feel the opposite.
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • Yep. And XH is from Texas. And he has that good ol boy Texas attitude too.
    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • About 6 years ago we had a shooting at a local department store in the mall close by us. It isn't a questionable neighborhood, it was in a good part of town. I don't remember any of the shoppers being armed. I know it seems silly at a store but this is one example where if a shopper had felt they needed it those that were hurt might not have been. It's scary that in today's world things like that can happen in a Dillard's, VanMour or Yonkers store but they do. I'm not saying I feel the need to be armed in those places but some people do and that instance was a good example why. It makes it hard for me to discount someone's concern when I hear about things as crazy as this was.

    On safety, my  BH is STB former military. Yes he has a side arm and no it is not loaded in the house. It is on a high shelf out of the kids reach in the bedroom. He does not store it with a clip in but there is a loaded clip nearby. It takes 3 seconds to load and you can do it on the move. You're not losing any time. Even if you store the weapon with a clip in, you can't fire it without chambering a round. From what I've heard most carry and conceal recommend you carry with a round chambered. If you're going to need it without warning (unlike hearing someone crashing around in your living room) you don't want to have to chamber a round. If you don't clear the breach EVERY time you put the weapon away, it will always be able to fire with or without a clip. We would never consider storing a weapon in the house hot and that's coming from my BH who has been in positions where immediate defense of his life has been necessary. He just doesn't think the difference is worth the risk. Others may feel differently but this is why we things the way we do.

  • And yet I a shopper had a gun they might have shot back and killed more people.
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • If my XH had that philosophy Earth & Fire about handling his guns (and I know he does not) I would not be here bitchin' about it.  That's the way to own and handle guns.

    Jen - I'm with you, I don't think having guns on you is necessarily the answer either.  There is something seriously going wrong in our society.  We are not taking care of those that are mentally ill, we are not reforming our incarcerated, and we are becoming a very entitled, rude society. More guns are not going to solve that.

    I choose to believe in our society and that the good in all of us will win out.  Unfortunately it appears it's going to take something even more horrific and tragic than an elementary massacre to move us in the right direction. 

    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • Most reputable gun clubs offer gun safety classes for kids starting around age 2-3. It your ex is serious about carrying/having a gun near your daughter, I'd insist that she go through a class. (At that age what they're taught is pretty much in ever, ever touch a gun. If you come across one, go find a grown up.)
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  • DH's best friend has a license to carry, and he has it on him fairly frequently, and you can't even tell. He's only ever taken it out once, and that's because DH asked if he was carrying.

    BD has a bunch of guns and it pisses me off because he's immature and irresponsible, and I worry that DS will get into them.
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