no honey until....?

LittleFish1 · October 2013

know honey is NOT for babies, but until how old? Couldn't recall when DH asked me.

ExcitedAunt2b · October 2013

My pedi said 1 year at the earliest.

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nanabanana06 · October 2013

Mine says 2.

LittleFish1 · October 2013

Will tell DH 2 to be on the side of abundantly cautious. Thanks!

dlbello23 · October 2013

Now if it's cooked honey, it doesn't matter right?

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nanabanana06 · October 2013

JandACoffee said:

dlbello23 said:

Now if it's cooked honey, it doesn't matter right?

I was wondering about this one. I've been avoiding BBQ sauce that has honey in it, honey maid graham crackers (the nabisco ones are honey-free), etc... but I have always guessed this was overkill but I'm not sure...

Cooked honey is fine. Raw honey can contain listeria. When it's cooked or baked the germs are killed by heat.I give Cade graham crackers all the time. They are his favorite food.

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dlbello23 · October 2013

Hmm I hope so graham crackers are dd's favorite snack

mydixiewrecked · October 2013

Team graham crackers over here too. He loves them.

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aelhunt · October 2013

JandACoffee said:

Nana_Osaki06 said:

JandACoffee said:

dlbello23 said:

Now if it's cooked honey, it doesn't matter right?

I was wondering about this one. I've been avoiding BBQ sauce that has honey in it, honey maid graham crackers (the nabisco ones are honey-free), etc... but I have always guessed this was overkill but I'm not sure...

Cooked honey is fine. Raw honey can contain listeria. When it's cooked or baked the germs are killed by heat.I give Cade graham crackers all the time. They are his favorite food.

I thought it was botulism? I know heat kills listeria, but I wasn't sure about botulism spores...

Correct. It's the spores that are worrisome and a reaction to that. Not listeria.

nanabanana06 · October 2013

aelhunt said:

JandACoffee said:

Nana_Osaki06 said:

JandACoffee said:

dlbello23 said:

Now if it's cooked honey, it doesn't matter right?

I was wondering about this one. I've been avoiding BBQ sauce that has honey in it, honey maid graham crackers (the nabisco ones are honey-free), etc... but I have always guessed this was overkill but I'm not sure...

Cooked honey is fine. Raw honey can contain listeria. When it's cooked or baked the germs are killed by heat.I give Cade graham crackers all the time. They are his favorite food.

I thought it was botulism? I know heat kills listeria, but I wasn't sure about botulism spores...

Correct. It's the spores that are worrisome and a reaction to that. Not listeria.

I always get them mixed up. It doesn't make graham crackers evil though. It's just raw honey, not honey thats been processed and cooked.

jac409 · October 2013

Question about graham crackers...do you give them whole or break them up into smaller bits? We haven't tried them yet, but I know LO will love them. I always thought cooked or baked honey was supposed to be fine too. Just not raw.

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nanabanana06 · October 2013

I just hand them to Cade. He eats them like a bunny.

dlbello23 · October 2013

Dd eats her graham crackers whole, she can kill one in under 3 min lol, girl loves her snack! I say she has gums of steel because she only has two teeth!

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JJ_13 · October 2013

It is botulism. The spores are difficult to kill.

Most processed foods are pasteurized and heated to a high enough temp in the processing, um, process (sorry - lol!) that they are considered safe from the botulism perspective - the spores are pretty much 100% going to be killed in that process. Of course, whether or not you want to give them processed foods because of other health reasons is a different factor.

It is not recommended that you feed infants dishes cooked at home with honey because it is unlikely that you are reaching a high enough temp to kill the botulism spores.

1 or 2? Eh. I dunno. I've heard both. I'll probably wait until 2 just to be safe, but not worry about it as much after 18 months or so. :-)

The symptoms of botulism are lethargy, difficulty sucking, constipation, slack jaw. It's unlikely that they would get it but it's really serious if they do, which is why we avoid honey.

StefandTodd · October 2013

Funny that some of you have heard 2. I'd heard 1 all along, with some very liberal moms and pedis saying 9 months is probably okay. So I'm personally pretty much past the point of worrying now.

That said, when I was a freaked out FTM...I waited until 1 year for ANY honey. Cooked/processed included.

dee12807 · October 2013

Bad mom here

I gave DD honey nut Cheerios from 5 months old. I realized it when she was about 7 months old. Mentioned it to the pedi and she says 'well, I guess she's not allergic to nuts it honey!' DS didn't get them until he was almost 2, but I didn't even think about it this time around...

StefandTodd · October 2013

Honey is not a common allergen, so the risk would be botulism which means just because she had it at 5 months doesn't mean continuing to give it again and again is a great idea. Just FYI

kescalera · October 2013

My pedi says its raw honey because of the risk of botulism but I don't think Honey Nut Cheerios are going to be even close to life-threatening. We feed Killian the Multigrain Cheerios which are slightly sweetened with honey. Same goes with graham crackers. Not sure there is enough of a risk to register. Would I give him toast with honey on it, no, but anything pre-made should be relatively safe.

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