Blended Families

Just when I think BM is out of our lives....

So a little background for the newbies:  When my DH and BM divorced, DH got residential custody of SD and BM got residential custody or SS and they BOTH HAD LEGAL CUSTODY when it came to the usual things like medical, religious, educational etc decisions.  There was even a clause that stated that residential custody could be changed with the agreement of the two parents.

BECAUSE DH was a product of divorce and because he was military, overseas and had seen crappy military divorces he was VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY clear about how the CO was written up in regards to visitations. 

They alternated who had the children by school vacations.  SO odd years DH gets Christmas and the first part of the summer and BM gets Thanksgiving, Spring Break and the second part of the summer.  The receiving parent was to pay or drive the transpiration for their holiday.  So on odd years, DH would only have to pay for getting SS for Christmas and the Summer and BM would have to pay to get SD on T-day, SPring Break and her Summer.  

SD graduated from high school and went off to college in 2006, so she no longer falls under the CO.  

In 2008, BM sent SS to live with us.  She could no longer control him.  When we first got him, DH did NOT change the CO, which just needed BM to send some notarized form into the State.  Even when BM called him up in a panic the first time she did not get his DFAS allotment for CS (even today, I am not sure how he stopped the allotment without an official piece of paper) and bitched him out about that and the extra check he sent to pay for SS's internet/cable, he did not do anything.  

But when we got our orders for Germany the next year, I FORCED HIM to get it done.  BM waffled a bit, but after having SS for the summer outburst or two she happily signed off the switch in residential custody without every asking for any type of change in the visitation portion.    

Now the first summer comes along and even though it is BM's responsibility for paying for SS to fly home, his therapist and our marriage counselor thought it would be a very good idea to have him go back to see what life would be like living with his mother (that was always SS's threat and DH would always coddle the kid instead of just ignoring it or following through and sending his ass back).  DH was very very very clear with BM that he would pay for the summer visitation because they were no longer alternating children and he wanted to be fair, but that he was not going to pay for anything else. We still have the emails.   

So when the next Christmas rolled around (an even year), he did not buy the ticket.  Not only was it NOT his responsibility to under the CO, not only was it morally it was not the right thing to do, but our finances just could NOT handle an almost $3000 ticket when we just spent $1500 for the summer trip and would be spending another $1500 to send him back in the summer.  

And yes, BM threw a fit while on the phone with SS.  This was the first time DH ever was open and honest with SS about the CO, CS and the strained relationship with BM.  He laid it all out to SS = that the CO stated that it was up to BM to pay for transportation, but since we were overseas we paid for the summer trip and that Christmas was on her, that DH TOLD HER THAT before the summer trip and that if SHE did not save the money up (that is always her excuse, except she always has money for things for herself, like time shares and cruises and new cars) that was on her. 

IN the end she never once paid a cent to have SS fly back to visit her for any of her visitations - she missed two christmases, T-days (and overseas they got the whole week) and springbreaks.  

FF to last night.  SS comes out and asks DH if he can take the car to his mothers for T-day AND Christmas.  SS said "well she told me that she gets two Christmases to make up for Germany.  

My FFC - I lit into SS even before DH could inhale a breath to speak.  I said something along the lines of "Seriously?  You DO know that your father and I never KEPT you from her, but that she CHOOSE not to exercise her visitations, RIGHT?  Because when SHE gave you up, not once but twice there was going to be some trade-offs and one of them being the transportation of your ass.  And since she didn't save the Child Support she was supposed to pay us for YOU and still doesn't pay, then that is on HER.  But she is not OWED anything.  If ANYTHING, she owes US $200 a month for the last 5 years and the cost of the three international plane tickets."

My really FFC  "You will be 18 in couple of weeks. So we really cannot stop you from seeing her.  But we can and will not enable you.  SO no you cannot use the car to drive up there.  If she wants you on "our" (I did really exaggerated ringer quotes) Christmas, then let her come and get you.  But I am betting dollar for donuts (I love that phrase) that she won't drive to pick you up because it will cost her TOO much in gas.  Because that $100 dollars is SOOOO much money compared to our THOUSANDS."

I know I was harsh.  ANd to be honest, part of me really just wants to send him up there since my holiday is already going to be sucky because we are stuck here and I just do not want to tempt fate that he is going to make it worse with a temper tantrum.  

But this is where he gets his attitude about life.  BM is an entitled bitch and DH was so worried about not trashing her, he let himself and the real world get trashed.  Not gonna do it anymore. 
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Re: Just when I think BM is out of our lives....

  • I'm sure I'm supposed to write something about how it's not his fault and he is still the child etc etc but honestly I don't blame you. The problem with making sure that you shelter the kids from drama is that it isn't always reciprocated and then the child is hearing a one way story of how awful the other parent is. I think your SS needed to hear it, but maybe a little less harsh.
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  • Your household has got to be very stressful to live in. I feel bad for your young daughter. I think I would be on Zoloft after just a few days living like that. It seems like all you guys living in that house are extremely high strung and just unbelievably mean to each other. And its quite obvious, you truly hate each other. The stuff your SS has said to you is bad, but man...can you hold your own when it comes to hateful outbursts. I suppose you deserve it then.
  • I think a simple "no you can't take the car by see if she will come get you" would have sufficed. I don't care what he has done to you, and I know he has had a PART in making your life hell, but tryst was absolutely uncalled for and just down right mean and hateful.
  • In my situation my older SK's can see through BM trying to play one parent against the other. DH and BM's situation is a lot different too.. the one I never vent about bc she never sees her kids or calls them anyways.

    My mom just went through something similar with my youngest 1/2 sibling and his BD. BD wants nothing to do with him unless it's convenient for BD or my mom pays him (BD). Youngest sibling is 15 and he now knows how it really is.

    I can't imagine how frustrating it could be with that distance. I guess my point is, I'm in between. Does SS just go there and believe everything BM says and just give you guys hell the whole time he is home? I would just think that at that age he could see through the BS.

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  • After reading these comments I have to say I love this board so much more than I ever did. I read it this morning after only the first comment and I thought for sure I would be coming back to you all telling OP that she did nothing wrong just because of who she is.
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  • Ilumine, why did you get so pissed at him for this? You know I never defend him but in this situation all he did was ask if he could use the car and he actually did it way ahead of time. And the thing is that no matter what his issues are I cannot image a huge part of him does not know his Mom sucks but he still loves her and always will. She Fs with his mind and causes him all sorts of issues but he did nothing wrong this time. This is just feeding into his and your DHs belief that you hate him and he can do no right with you. Look we all screw up even with our bio kids but I hope you realize your anger was misplaced. I know he has done a lot wrong but I think he is owed an apology just like you would expect from him.
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • I own it. I WAS harsh with him. And yes, I could have ignored it all. But I am done being spat on, while BM gets the kid gloves. Just last week I got screamed at becuase I noticed that he was putting dirty dishes into the clean dishwasher. I was trying to help hi do his ONE chore (one that he has not been doing becuase he is working so much and that I was happy to help him do becuase I want him to succeed) and got a beat down for it. I can't win for trying. And it is not like We go through our days hating on each other. Wensedat, he came home from school and we went to the beach. Today SS, Monkey and I had a water gun war. And we have been working on his SAT prep for the past month. Just like anyone else, my human nature is to come here to vent away at the bad stuff and look for some solutions/directions. And I have taken to heart many of the dissenting voices along the line (I hug him). We rarely post about the benign or the good stuff becuase we don't need support for that. It hurts that I get to be the one to talk to him about girls, take him shopping (his bitch mother has not purchased a single piece of clothing since 2010),work on getting him into college (they still do essays) and then get the weekly slap downs...only to have him matter of factly tell me that he is going to his mother's for Christmas on our year becuase HER feelings would be hurt and that our feelings on the subject matter none. And while I should have just talked about my feelings, the fact still remains that he will give into her feelings becuase she still plays the victim card (she is furloughed and supposedly cannot feed herself, but is not selling the extra car, motorcycles or timeshare(s). But I did apologize for. Being short with him, not for what I said but how I said it. And then we got cookies.
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  • Sunday924 said:
    After reading these comments I have to say I love this board so much more than I ever did. I read it this morning after only the first comment and I thought for sure I would be coming back to you all telling OP that she did nothing wrong just because of who she is.

    and who exactly am I? Lol
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  • Ilumine said:
    Sunday924 said:
    After reading these comments I have to say I love this board so much more than I ever did. I read it this morning after only the first comment and I thought for sure I would be coming back to you all telling OP that she did nothing wrong just because of who she is.

    and who exactly am I? Lol

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  • Ilumine while I totally his agree with SundY on a lot of things but you know that people are way tougher on newer posters or those that do not post often. Most people here respect you.

    You screwed up this time but like I said we all do. And yeah it sucks to be the person doing all the work and the other person being put on a pedestal. I rember how excited SD would get when her Mom would send her a package in high school with little kid food-type lip glosses and teen beat-type magazines and a $5 gift card to Starbucks all things that were age innapropriate and SD would not use and she would be so grateful because her Mom did not have the money! Hey, in the 6 years she lived with us her Mom did pay for HALF of one winter coat! It sucks!
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • Ilumine while I totally his agree with SundY on a lot of things but you know that people are way tougher on newer posters or those that do not post often. Most people here respect you. You screwed up this time but like I said we all do. And yeah it sucks to be the person doing all the work and the other person being put on a pedestal. I rember how excited SD would get when her Mom would send her a package in high school with little kid food-type lip glosses and teen beat-type magazines and a $5 gift card to Starbucks all things that were age innapropriate and SD would not use and she would be so grateful because her Mom did not have the money! Hey, in the 6 years she lived with us her Mom did pay for HALF of one winter coat! It sucks!
    Bolded part:  Story of my life.  OP-  Yes, it was harsh but we all have breaking points.  And we hit them at various times (many unexpectedly, which leads to an outburst).  I honestly think we have all been there at some point.  OP I'm glad you vented here (as we all do).  It is a good reminder that I am not alone with this BS and that we can help each other out. 

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  • And Ilumine I laughed when you said you have learned from the board and you hug him. So funny. I have not seen her on in a while.
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  • And Ilumine I laughed when you said you have learned from the board and you hug him. So funny. I have not seen her on in a while.
    I know it sounds like I was being sarcastic but I really wasn't.

    Two things were brought out in therapy.  

    1) BM would use cuddling to control SS, either to keep him her baby or when she would over punish, a hug would be used to calm him down.  It was suggested that DH and I incorporate more positive reinforcements and to me, this was a no brainer. 

    Use the hug in the appropriate manner, not the controlling manner.  So I have tried really hard to make sure I give him an unsolicited hug at least every other day and really hug him when he is on the right path.  

    2) I also realized that I was withholding my hugging and hair mussing and shoulder chucking from SS not just when SS was an ass, but when DH was being an ass too.  And that is NOT fair to SS.  

    SO while I am not going to HUG SS when he is immediately being an ass or within the immediate recovery- because that is counter productive to his care - I need to be 100% sure that I was not holding things against him in an petty manner. 

    Though I do believe and have told him point blank that when you are mean, rude, rotten to people, things just do not go right back to normal until the mean, rude, rotten person makes it right.   

    Its a fine line that I walk with DD too.  When she (age appropriately) uses potty humor towards me or says that she doesnt love me to hurt my feelings to get her way, I want her to understand that while I will always love her, my feelings of hurt need to be worked through before all is hunky-dory.  

    I want her to "get that" with ME and DH and her immediate family and friends so that she does not end up like her brother, who ruined pretty much all of his friendships up until 3 years ago.  

    The hard part is not being a bitch about it.  
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  • Sunday924 said:
    Ilumine said:
    Sunday924 said:
    After reading these comments I have to say I love this board so much more than I ever did. I read it this morning after only the first comment and I thought for sure I would be coming back to you all telling OP that she did nothing wrong just because of who she is.

    and who exactly am I? Lol

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    being a regular means nothing around here.  If you act like an ass, you will be called an ass to your face. 
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  • ambrvanambrvan member
    edited October 2013
    And we called you an ass. Lol. You know I usually do not think that of you, though.

    And while I think a lot of the way you do things is too planned by the book (can't think of a clearer way to say it), I get it that that is who you are, and I think overall you generally have tried to do what is best for SS. And I'm glad you have seen that your feelings towards yH at whatever time can influence your actions toward SS. Because likewise, I am sure that tensions between you and yH also affect the way SS acts toward you.

    I also am glad to read that you all aren't just mean to eachother. Lol. I would love to know more about your trips to the beach and water gun fights. Because sometimes we/I get the wrong idea that your life is nothing but screaming, yelling, and ultimatums.

    FWIW, I think that SS adding about the car ahead of time is actually a positive. For one, he was taking some initiative and he was planning it out. All of which are things you have tried to teach him. Oh, and he asked instead of assuming our demanding. Look at the positives. ;)
  • I knew you meant it but it still made me laugh. I personally am many years from the bad comments surrounding that and think she was too but you saying you learned to hug him made me chuckle remembering the way that advice was intended, lol. You just need to hug him more;)

    And I will restate it that people will still call the regulars out but people are always going to be nicer to people they "know". And also nicer because no matter what one of the oldies say we will know they are not MUD or a troll so I think it makes people word themself nicer. This is probably the harshest I ever remember people being to you exceptions two specific posters from the past that had issues with anyone with problem situations but if I newbie posted this the comments would have be ruder.
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • Where did hug them more ever go? J&A right? I liked her, and thought she gave some good advice.
  • She have some nutso advice in the beginning because I think she thought all of us with older kids had issues because we were not loving enough but she mostly came around. I have no idea what happened to her.
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
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