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NBFR: JFC - might be changing daycare.

They are already raising "tuition".  I pay $800 for child care a month. Now they want more. I used to pay $500/month for much better quality care.

They are always asking for more money for something. Every damn week I am dishing out $20 -$25 for this and that.

DD is filthy almost every day when I pick her up. 

No daycare should have a flippin' sandbox. Every day I pour sand out of her shoes. 

They don't properly comb her hair. When I drop her off, she has a neat, and tidy pony and a little clip for her stray hair. When I pick her up, it's half falling out of her pony tail and a complete flipping mess. Half the time, with strands of grass in it. Today, her clip was buried in her mess of a hair. Somedays, she doesn't even come home with it. 

I'm tired of her clothes being ruined.  We lose an entire outfit a week.

They just sent out meeting notes for a parent meeting I could not attend. It said they "deep cleaned" the daycare. Really?  Then why when I walk thru I constantly see lint, dirt, paper, and crap all over the floor and stuff stashed in the halls?

I picked up DD last week - literally.  Put her on my hip and she felt damp.  I commented and the excuse I got was she was in the sandbox.  It wasn't wet sand. DD had peed her pants and it had gone so long, she was almost fucking dry.

I put socks in her backpack because she has wet her pants and had shoes on which sometimes get wet.  I get her shoes get wet.  But I've picked her up barefoot too many times because they can't take a couple minutes to look for the socks I've told them about. If I felt that they truly "deep cleaned" and the kids didn't wear shoes in the classroom and the floors a mess...barefoot wouldn't be an issue. Her feet were black on the bottom. 

I talked to XH and he said, "I knew this was coming!" He wasn't happy either.  He went to pick her up a week and a half ago on his weekend. Literally, 2 hours after I dropped her off and he said her hair was a mess.  He said, he too didn't like how dis-organized the facility looked and it didn't look clean to him either.

What did me in today is I gave them all her shot records the first day she was there.  Three weeks later they are telling me they aren't current. WTF?  My doctor told me she wouldn't need shots until kindergarten.  I know he knows what he's talking about. They want me to provide current, accurate records transferred to their form by tomorrow. Again. WTF?  It took you 3 1/2 weeks to look at her records and now you want my information tomorrow?? I gave it to you.  And our doctor is in 2 hours away.  Go to hell.

I told them we have a doctor's appointment Monday. Not good enough.  Well I guess we'll be looking for someplace else then.  XH is taking her early and getting her tomorrow night. I have no idea if they'll let her in Monday.  Hopefully I can find something soon.

I guess we're just spoiled. She's been going to small, out of the home daycares.  I prefer that personal, loving attention she got and she always had so many friends. I don't get the sense that she has friends at this center. 

I live in a city now.   I'm nervous about finding  and trusting in-home care centers.  But apparently I can't trust company owned centers either.

Am I over reacting?  Or am I being that parent?

 

"he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval

Re: NBFR: JFC - might be changing daycare.

  • The pee thing would piss me off so bad. Our last daycare always had DDs hair a mess and they let her get super dirty outside. I hated it, but I let it go because care was otherwise good. If she sat in piss until it was almost dry I would have probably gone off the rails.

    Have you been complaining about things a lot? Do you think the shot record thing could be them just forcing you out because you've been complaining and they think you are a PITA? My old daycare did something similar to a mother who had been complaining about them a lot.
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  • When it comes to daycares I always felt it was a gut thing. If you don't like what you see then it's time to leave.

    I don't think  you've been spoiled with good daycares it has made you aware what is out there, and you shouldn't have to settle for something you aren't happy with.


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  • Nope. I've been letting things slide a little. This last week with the wet pants and today with the shots really set me off.

    I told the lady in the afternoons politely that I put a brush in DD's bag, can she make sure her hair is combed after naps?  I thought maybe they weren't doing it because of lice, and not wanting to share brushes or combs.  It improved for about 2-3 days, and then promptly went to crap.  That's the only time you could say I "complained" and I did that very politely. She seemed to be happy to oblige when I asked.

    The woman that's there in the morning seems to be a bit too crabby too.  Kind of cold. 

    DD is always happy, seems to like it there, and I've seen her progress verbally and she appears to be learning, so I kind of took a wait an see approach. We are at 3 1/2 weeks and I am simply, not happy with the general way they run things.  

    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • I agree. I'd find a new place as well.
  • Lurker: That's not a good daycare. Take her out and report them. Most state licensing boards have requirements that mandate children are clean. Sandboxes are outdated because they tend to be unsanitary (cats/animals use them as a litterbox). Check Angie's List or Care.com. Also, your state daycare licensing website should allow you to search all licensed centers and see all of their non-compliances. I work for a large pre-k program (3,000+ kids) and am very leery when finding a daycare for my kids. Trust your gut and pull her out. 
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  • I don't think it's their responsibility to keep her hair neat, but all of the other issues are completely unacceptable. I hope you can find a better DCP quickly because this place sounds pretty awful.

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  • My kids went to a larger family-run center, and a corporate center.  I can't say the corporate center was bad at all, except for some of the rules / policies that is just a result of needing a national standard.  The family run center had a sandbox and I never had an issue with it.

    The hair thing you have to let go.  In fact, I would be wary of having my child's hair brushed at daycare b/c of the chance of transferring lice either by someone accidentally using your child's brush or some other way. 

    I do believe that a mama needs to trust her gut.  As a working mom, I needed a place where I knew my kids were being well taken care of.  If that is not the case with your current provider you need to switch.

     

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  • No you are not overreacting. My DS goes to a daycare center that is a chain in my area and I haven't seen any of this.
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  • I agree with most PPs.
    My DDs have always been in a "big name" daycare, so here is my take.

    The hair - I would never expect them to brush her hair. It is daycare - they have tons of kids to worry about.
    The pee - I would flip.  How did she pee her pants and no one knew?  This also mean there was a puddle of pee somewhere in the school or playground
    Cleanliness - I expect my kids to get messy - marker, paint, stamps, food, etc. but I expect the center to be clean.  I shouldn't find anything in the mornings and in the afternoons I should only expect to see the disorder of having kids there all day.  
    Shots - this is a state thing. The center I take my children to must have a health form and shot record for every single well check!  So even though I provided a 1 year form - they also need an 10 month well visit form for my youngest (which the appt is Friday).  So this could be them preparing for an audit and knowing your forms are out of date.

    Finally - go with your gut!  I pulled my DD1 out of the first center I had her in.  She had only been there 2 weeks, but my gut told me it wasn't for me.  And people rave about this center - but it wasn't jiving with me.  This is your child - so no regrets - do what you need to do!  Find another place.  Maybe you can get into one for a visit today or tomorrow and have everything lined up for Monday.

  • Definitely pull her out and find a new DC. I wouldn't be so concerned about her hair and being a little dirty, but having to toss an entire outfit regualarly is a little too much. What are they doing there that she gets so dirty?! And there's no way I'd tolerate the messy underwear. I would've gone straight to the director on that one.

    I feel like you need to go with your gut on daycares, as long as they are up to code on everythng else anyway. I don't think you've been "spoiled", I think you just expeerienced a good daycare and not you are experiencing a bad one. I love DS's daycare, it is safe and secure, he's learned so much, and the teachers genuinely love the kids. DS has just about every one of them wrapped around his little finger!

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  • I think it's a combo of both. I'm spoiled, and they are kind of crappy.

    Maybe I'm just a home care kinda mom.  I had DD in a large facility when she was born and that's where she had a bad reaction and broke out into hives from exposure to bleach.

    I just don't have the warm fuzzies I had when I visited.

    It's proving hard to find a 4 or 5 star facility. I'm staying away from anything less than that.   There are only10 that have a 5 star rating in the entire metro area.  THe one that is literally right next to my parking ramp is rated a 2.  Crap. Crap. CRAP! 

    One reason to miss the small town/country living.

    Well that's enough whining and bitching for me.  Back to my search!!

     

     

     

    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • I don't worry too much about DS's clothes. He is a boy and plays hard. He comes home with mulch in his shoes every day from the playground (and rocks in his pockets because he picks up rocks everywhere lol) and used to have sand all over him from his daycare before we moved last year. I would not expect them to take care of my child's hair (even with a girl).

    However, with everything else you mentioned, I would pull her if she were mine. I pulled DS from his last daycare (right after we moved) because of lack of supervision, lack of discipline, and too many injuries in addition to everything you have going on. The barefoot thing made me livid! I walked in in January and my already sick with a cold child was barefoot on the concrete floor and it was freezing in there. I blew up.

    I can be THAT mom when dealing with daycares and doctors. Not ashamed. You better have a diligent interest in my kids if you're going to touch them.
  • Pull her out. For every reason you listed. Trust your gut. DD's hair should not be a complete wreck, it really shouldn't. The fact that they leave her barefoot instead of changing her socks is disgusting. The whole thing is just awful. You weren't spoiled J, you had what was a great fit for you. This is not. Can you search Care.com? Can you see if any of your coworkers know an in home person?
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    I am going to have a talk with them today. Yesterday I picked her up and she smelled like a dog.  And I don't mean just a little. A LOT like a dog.

    I have to find something decent first.  It's hard to find decent daycare that has an opening.  And I don't want to just move her somewhere else and have another issue.   XH is taking her again Thursday evening and she won't be there again on Friday. 

    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • T&Ps your way for finding something great fast. Make sure you report the current daycare once you guys are gone.

    Since you haven't really complained, I would do so now. Let them know that you have changes of clothes, including socks and underwear, in her backpack, and that she NEEDS to be changed. Let them know that her sitting in her own urine all day is NOT okay, and that her walking around barefoot is NOT okay. Can you see if sandboxes are even allowed at day cares in your area? Some counties/states they are not, as a PP mentioned.
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  • FWIW I don't think you are trashy. I think this is just over the top.
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  • I'm not sure what you mean Jen.  Do you mean I'm being overly sensitive or whiney, or that daycare is over the top? 

    In regards to the dog comment - I love dogs, I just don't think my child should smell like one when I pick her up in daycare.  I found that strange, and while I know they bring pets in for the kids, and I don't mind it...if my child smells like a dog that visited for a short time - the dog needs a bath.   Her old daycares both had dogs and DD played with them a lot. She never smelled like a dog. Ever.

    Ugh.  I can't wait until she's in Pre-School.  And maybe that's not any better.  I'm sure I'll run up against things I'm not happy with, but she's just a bit too young yet. I can't wait until she's able to do more to take care of herself as she gets older.  I am hoping to get into a school that my cousin's wife is one of the PreK teachers.  Next year can't come fast enough.

    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • @+just+j+ I bet Jen meant to write that as a response in a different thread. The nineoceans #2 post.
  • LMAO!  I was wondering.  Couldn't figure out where trashy came into the mix. 
    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
  • Well, after a discussion, things were noticeably better today. She's doing better with the potty training - same clothes at pick up for close to a week now.  Her hair was brushed. Not perfect, but I don't expect that.  Neater and not a complete mess.

    I laughed tho. Today they had one of those stand up sandboxes in the room.  Guess who was the only one at it?  DD.  Sand all over and on the floor...yep. You're rooms are sooooo clean.  I laughed and said, "You all are very brave with these sandboxes." And the caretaker said, "It's all about the fun...."  Yes indeed. I still think sandboxes at daycares are nuts. 

    Whatever.  I'll just learn to let it go.  There could be worse things in life, considering what I've seen on the Bump today. 

    So things have improved a little.  Hoping they stay that way. Still looking for a different daycare tho. 

    "he offered her the world. she said she had her own" - poet Monique Duval
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