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I think we need marriage counseling

Basically H and I were talking on his lunch about our disagreement last night. Long story short, I said I didn't understand why he hasn't been communicating with me since I was pregnant on anything, cause we went to pre-marriage counseling and built a strong relationship then it all went out the window. He said it was cause I dont show him I love him anymore. I've bent over backwards to make sure he still felt loved and done special things for him and I told this to him and his response was that since we stopped having sex, he stopped communicating cause that means I dont love him.  WTH? We couldn't finish our conversation cause he had to get back to work, but I didn't expect him to think that. I told him real quick that I show my love and that sex isn't the only way to show it. I would expect a high school boy to give me that crap not the man I (thought) I married.

We said we wouldn't throw around the 'D' word and work on our problems, but we've had the same conversation too much and now I dont think anything I say is sinking in, so I think marriage counseling is what we need. Our pastor did our pre-marriage one and I think he still does marriage but I'll have to ask. This is upsetting me so much.

WDYT?

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  • Typing one handed, but have you read The Five Love Languages?
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  • That's a good suggestion, Holly.  

    I think it definitely sounds like you're not on the same page.  He needs to realize that no, a relationship is not all about sex, but you may need to realize that that might be the way he feels most loved by you.  I don't think he's alone in that.  It probably just comes down to miscommunication, basically.

    I don't think marriage counseling is ever a bad thing so if you're both interested, go for it.  Maybe he feels disconnected from you because your physical relationship is lacking.  If that's true, maybe you guys could come up with some sort of compromise on that.  Like... maybe have sex X times a month/week to get back in the habit?  And he needs to realize that you think you are showing him love, just in different ways.  Also, give him direction on how you could feel more connected with him.  If you don't think you guys can talk this out together and come up with a game plan then yes, counseling, for sure.

    JMO.
  • I also agree with the 5 languages of love. We read it as part of our pre marital counseling.. It was and still is a great resource..
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  • @Holly

    No, I've never heard of it but ill look into it.</>

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  • I don't think sex is limited to high school boys, I don't know of any guy who would be happy with a wife who doesn't have sex with him.
  • foxminifoxmini member
    edited September 2013

    I don't think sex is limited to high school boys, I don't know of any guy who would be happy with a wife who doesn't have sex with him.

    only high school age boys equate the frequency of sex with amount of love.

  • lightgetsinlightgetsin member
    edited September 2013
    foxmini said:

    I don't think sex is limited to high school boys, I don't know of any guy who would be happy with a wife who doesn't have sex with him.

    only high school age boys equate the frequency of sex with amount of love.

    Not really. I think a majority of men equate sex with love at some point. My DH has been guilty of it and he is a grown man.

  • tmsgrl said:
    I don't think sex is limited to high school boys, I don't know of any guy who would be happy with a wife who doesn't have sex with him.
    only high school age boys equate the frequency of sex with amount of love.
    Not really. I think a majority of men equate sex with love at some point. My DH has been guilty of it and he is a grown man.

    No, just bc your husband does doesn't mean it's the majority. It's definitely odd and immature.
  • I don't think it's odd or uncommon but I agree that it is immature. Maybe I shouldn't have said "majority"...but if OP's husband thinks this way and mine does too, and I know of many other men who think this way, then it is not completely out there and "odd" as you so nicely put it.
    Maybe because I am a kind-hearted person, I am letting the OP know that she is not alone instead of trying to make her feel worse like you so often do.
  • I'm not trying to make her feel worse, but I'm not going to blow smoke up her ass. She already knows she needs counseling...telling her it's normal does her a disservice.
  • Wow TMS, you're just a fucking ray of sunshine, aren't you?

    Sure, men believe sex = love at some point... When they're boys. Immature, insecure, BOYS that think with their penis.
     

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  • My boyfriend in high school told me "If you really loved me, you'd do it." I'm really surprised some people think this behavior is acceptable from grown men. But if I knew my husband would punish me by no longer communicating and/or generally becoming a grumpy a-hole, then I wouldn't put out either. It would feel like an obligation, and that's not okay.
  • Why have you stopped having sex and how long has it been?
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  • I think marriage counseling is a great idea.  I personally don't think there is anything wrong with him saying " I feel MOST loved when we have sex more frequently " but he definitely should not be punishing you by withholding time together and talking to you.  That is not right and not fair.

    I also want to reiterate what others are saying about the book The Five Love Languages.  We read the book when we were newlyweds and I think it really helped both of us to realize that we each show love  and need love differently and that is ok. 

  • rockyrollgirlrockyrollgirl member
    edited September 2013
    I think its great that he was even honest about how he was feeling. Some people (this isn't just a "man" thing) keep it to themselves and let it eat them up inside until they just become bitter. Or just complain to their friends about it...
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  • H and I talked about it, and I'm going to order the book PP's have mentioned but also see if our pastor would do counseling or if he still does it. I am glad he was honest with me and we're going to work out what we can do to help each other.

    @rockyrollgirl The reason we stopped is because when I was pregnant I started to feel real ill and I just lost my libido. I thought it would go back to normal after DS was born but he's 3 months now and I still don't feel the want or need for sex which is concerning me and I'm trying to find ways to spark me up again but I haven't found anything yet so far. We have done it a couple times since DS was born but I just am having a hard time getting there I guess.
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  • amy052006 said:
    jak554 said:
    H and I talked about it, and I'm going to order the book PP's have mentioned but also see if our pastor would do counseling or if he still does it. I am glad he was honest with me and we're going to work out what we can do to help each other.

    @rockyrollgirl The reason we stopped is because when I was pregnant I started to feel real ill and I just lost my libido. I thought it would go back to normal after DS was born but he's 3 months now and I still don't feel the want or need for sex which is concerning me and I'm trying to find ways to spark me up again but I haven't found anything yet so far. We have done it a couple times since DS was born but I just am having a hard time getting there I guess.
    Again, I would suggest counselling for you, not through a clergy member.  While I am sure they might mean well, it seems like you would benefit from someone with an expertise in the specific issues women and especially new mothers face.

    I also wouldn't rule out seeing your regular doctor for some blood work, either.
    Ok... sorry I must've missed that. I was kinda reading the updates real quick but I'll look around the area for some. Thanks for the advice. :)
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  • Are you saying you haven't had sex with him in a year? Are you guys going on date nights? Any alone time together outside of the house? It sounds like you both need something to help you reconnect. Also, I'd suggest you consider personal counseling.
    Basically. We try to do date nights but we just built a house so money's tight right now and we moved a little further from family. But when DS allows it we do cuddle and try to enjoy each other before he wakes up. 
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  • I lost my libido after becoming pregnant because I was always nauseous and when I wasn't I was worried I would be with all that moving around.

    After having the baby, My brain had a hard time shutting down on my "to-do" list, and wanting to get in some sleep instead of sex. There were times that I had to force myself to suck it up and do it. Once we started I got in the mood. I am still not near as much in the mood as I was pre baby.

    All that said, my husband did not punish me for not having sex although I knew it did hurt his feelings/pride. 

    Ask him how many times he would need to do it to feel "loved"? just to get a ball park and compromise?

     

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  • amy052006 said:
    Listen, if you aren't having sex --- that's a problem.  He shouldn't be an ass to you about it, but it is something you should want to do with your husband for yourself.

    I'll be honest, if I didn't want to ever have sex, my husband would be concerned.  Not because he is immature or an ass, but because there must be a reason.  You guys need counselling (and IMO not from a clergy member) to tackle that reason.
    Yeah but he wouldn't come to you and say you don't love me if you're not having sex with me. Or I should hope not. I do agree with you 100% that is not not something I would take to a minister or priest. OP, please consider using a real therapist. 
  • You have a 3 month old? 

    I'm sorry, I'm Team Sleep Over Sex. 
    Are you BFing? For me, my libido is crap when I BF. 

    I think since it an issue that keeps coming up, it's smart to seek counseling. While I personally would not use any one related to my Church, if you feel like that's a good starting point, then do it. 

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  • I agree with finding a family/couple therapist. I just don't think I could be open and honest about sex and the lack there of with my pastor
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  • A year? Like...365 days? Woo....my DH would be upset too. Hell so would I! Please see a counselor, and like PP said, not a priest.
  • I totally get loss of libido when pregnant.  My sex drive took a complete nose dive once I got pregnant.  I was so sick.  We tried a couple times to have sex but I didn't get much from it.  Even after I had DD the drive was still really low but that was because I still had a LOT of baby weight on me and didn't feel attractive at all.  Currently I think we have sex twice a month, no more than 3.  I feel bad of course, but I just don't think about it much anymore at all.  I got off the bc pills and that definitely helped some.  I still would rather sleep. LOL.

    I agree that you should see a real therapist as well, not your pastor.
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  • I honestly think it's just par of the course.  I need a LOT to get me in the mood these days.  You guys just need to find a happy medium....where he is feeling "loved" and you aren't feeling like you don't have to put out all the time.
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  • KateMW said:
    tmsgrl said:
    I don't think sex is limited to high school boys, I don't know of any guy who would be happy with a wife who doesn't have sex with him.
    only high school age boys equate the frequency of sex with amount of love.
    Not really. I think a majority of men equate sex with love at some point. My DH has been guilty of it and he is a grown man.

    No, just bc your husband does doesn't mean it's the majority. It's definitely odd and immature.

    I don't think it's immature at all. I think the way a man feels emotionally connected (and heck, probably plenty of women too) is through physical intimacy. I think if I was rejected from my spouse from a year I think it would not only have a huge blow on my ego but make me feel unattractive and unloved too.
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  • KC_13 said:
    KateMW said:
    tmsgrl said:
    I don't think sex is limited to high school boys, I don't know of any guy who would be happy with a wife who doesn't have sex with him.
    only high school age boys equate the frequency of sex with amount of love.
    Not really. I think a majority of men equate sex with love at some point. My DH has been guilty of it and he is a grown man.

    No, just bc your husband does doesn't mean it's the majority. It's definitely odd and immature.

    I don't think it's immature at all. I think the way a man feels emotionally connected (and heck, probably plenty of women too) is through physical intimacy. I think if I was rejected from my spouse from a year I think it would not only have a huge blow on my ego but make me feel unattractive and unloved too.
    And would you put it into the words he did? I mean hell, you already explained it better in two sentences than saying "You don't love me if you won't have sex with me" That's my point. It's childish and immature to not be able to put it into words that are constructive. I completely agree that DH and I are more connected when we're connecting IYKWIM. LOL But to approach it in the way he did is immature. 
  • KateMW said:
    KC_13 said:
    KateMW said:
    tmsgrl said:
    I don't think sex is limited to high school boys, I don't know of any guy who would be happy with a wife who doesn't have sex with him.
    only high school age boys equate the frequency of sex with amount of love.
    Not really. I think a majority of men equate sex with love at some point. My DH has been guilty of it and he is a grown man.

    No, just bc your husband does doesn't mean it's the majority. It's definitely odd and immature.

    I don't think it's immature at all. I think the way a man feels emotionally connected (and heck, probably plenty of women too) is through physical intimacy. I think if I was rejected from my spouse from a year I think it would not only have a huge blow on my ego but make me feel unattractive and unloved too.
    And would you put it into the words he did? I mean hell, you already explained it better in two sentences than saying "You don't love me if you won't have sex with me" That's my point. It's childish and immature to not be able to put it into words that are constructive. I completely agree that DH and I are more connected when we're connecting IYKWIM. LOL But to approach it in the way he did is immature. 

    I get the delivery wasn't terrific, but the underlying message was he doesnt want to bother because he's not getting the emotional connection he needs to feel loved and wanted. I think men commonly aren't that eloquent.
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