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Glass of Guinness

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Do you think odd glass now & again is safe?
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  • lyndsey774lyndsey774 member
    I would ask your doctor...no one here is going to be able to tell you if it's safe for your growing baby or not
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  • katiedidthatkatiedidthat member
    I've heard a small glass of wine is safe in the late 2nd and 3rd trimesters, but never anything about beer.  I'd definitely ask your doctor.  I've only ever heard guinness after delivery for milk production, and then its a whole different story as to whether it works or not.

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  • Teresa1896Teresa1896 member
    I've heard from others that Guinness is a routine beverage for pregnant women in Ireland because of its iron levels. I don't like Guinness but I did have a bit of beer here and there in 2nd and 3rd tri.

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  • LittleLady77LittleLady77 member
    Doesn't that have a pretty high alcohol content? I'm pretty sure 1 beer is okay in the 2nd and 3rd tri but I would really think twice before drinking that stuff.

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  • strawberrytreestrawberrytree member
    When I lived in Ireland, I had a friend who was pregnant. She told me that her doctor said it was fine to have a pint a couple times a week, and in fact I went for a pint with her while she was still a few weeks along. I didn't say anything to her because I was still young and had never been pregnant, but I assumed the doctor had been kidding and she had taken him at his word. However, in reference to PP's comment he might have been serious. My friend miscarried shortly afterwards, btw. I don't know if it was related to her drinking or not, but that's not a chance I'd be willing to take. Like others, I've heard an occasional glass of wine in late 2nd/3rd tri is okay, but I wouldn't down a pint.


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  • snappyKsnappyK member
    One glass of Guiness is fine. There have been several studies recently that have shown no IQ or behavioral problems with kids whose mothers drank up to a moderate amount during pregnancy. Moderate being something like 5 drinks per week, and a drink being like a regular size glass of wine or a normal alcohol content regular size beer.

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    The arguments against drinking in that article boil down to either "Some people are alcoholics and can't stop at one drink, so no pregnant women should be allowed to drink ever." and "Women can't be trusted to follow basic directions, like don't drink more than 5 drinks per week."

    I say, if you want a Guiness, have one. Don't have three in one sitting. And drink it slowly, and with food.
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  • agallagher1981agallagher1981 member
    All good points ladies thanks. Think I'll leave the beverage until the christening ☺️
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  • KKG11467KKG11467 member
    One glass should be fine.
    My doctor said wine is safe in the 2nd and 3rd tri...
    I had a crazy girls weekend in Key West when I was 4 weeks (didn't know I was preggo) and my dr said I am ok and my little Buckeye is healthy and looks great!
    I would follow your gut...it usually leads us in the right direction.
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  • Mandyw75Mandyw75 member
    I love Guinness. And to the pp about being high in alcohol. Not true, Guinness is a light beer in comparison to majority of other. It's about 4.1 to 4.3 percent. My mum occasionally drank half a beer with me. I may or may not. I didn't with DS. But I didn't love Guinness then either. ;)

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  • deidremariadeidremaria member
    strawberrytree said:

    When I lived in Ireland, I had a friend who was pregnant. She told me that her doctor said it was fine to have a pint a couple times a week, and in fact I went for a pint with her while she was still a few weeks along. I didn't say anything to her because I was still young and had never been pregnant, but I assumed the doctor had been kidding and she had taken him at his word. However, in reference to PP's comment he might have been serious. My friend miscarried shortly afterwards, btw. I don't know if it was related to her drinking or not, but that's not a chance I'd be willing to take. Like others, I've heard an occasional glass of wine in late 2nd/3rd tri is okay, but I wouldn't down a pint.


    I'm sorry about your friend's loss. Here on island teenage girls actually use Guinness to terminate an early pregnancy. Most of the time it works.
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    JulianneJacks said:

    deidremaria said:

    strawberrytree said:

    When I lived in Ireland, I had a friend who was pregnant. She told me that her doctor said it was fine to have a pint a couple times a week, and in fact I went for a pint with her while she was still a few weeks along. I didn't say anything to her because I was still young and had never been pregnant, but I assumed the doctor had been kidding and she had taken him at his word. However, in reference to PP's comment he might have been serious. My friend miscarried shortly afterwards, btw. I don't know if it was related to her drinking or not, but that's not a chance I'd be willing to take. Like others, I've heard an occasional glass of wine in late 2nd/3rd tri is okay, but I wouldn't down a pint.


    I'm sorry about your friend's loss. Here on island teenage girls actually use Guinness to terminate an early pregnancy. Most of the time it works.
    I don't believe that a glass of Guinness causes miscarriages. I know that some doctors recommend the occasional glass of wine or beer during pregnancy in good faith. The reason the medical community in the US is so adamant that there is no safe amount is because if you tell some women 1 drink is ok they will have 5. The other issue is the fact that most studies on drinking during pregnancy failed to factor out other factors like drug use that could be causing developmental delays instead of light drinking. I don't think a study on drinking during pregnancy can be accurate if the participants are also abusing hard drugs!

    Gwyneth Paltrow drank the occasional glass of Guinness during her pregnancies and she has two healthy babies. There have actually been studies that show that women who drink small amounts ie 2 or 3 drinks per week and not more than 1 a day have smarter children than women who abstain completely. Part of that is due to the fact that women who drink very lightly have probably done their research and are smarter than the
    type of woman who would believe that Guinness specifically causes miscarriages...

    I completely understand and support women who choose to completely abstain from alcohol during pregnancy. I haven't had a drink yet. However, I get irked when I hear idiotic theories on miscarriage.
    I never said it was accurate. I said what goes on around here. I'm pretty sure if you drink 3 guinesses at once when you're about 6 weeks pregnant you're likely to lose the baby. I could be wrong. How about you do a study on it.
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    AprilMay9 said:

    @Deirdremaria you said on island...never heard anyone fromireland say that. Are you from the Caribbean?

    Not saying its true or not but American Guinness and Caribbean Guinness is much different. American is like 4 and a half percent and Caribbean Guinness is 7 something I think.

    I live in the Virgin Islands. I've lived here since I was 5 years old. Maybe it is Caribbean Guinness. Honestly since I'm not much of a beer drinker I had no idea there were different kinds. That may explain it.
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    AprilMay9 said:

    @Deirdremaria you said on island...never heard anyone fromireland say that. Are you from the Caribbean?

    Not saying its true or not but American Guinness and Caribbean Guinness is much different. American is like 4 and a half percent and Caribbean Guinness is 7 something I think.

    I live in the Virgin Islands. I've lived here since I was 5 years old. Maybe it is Caribbean Guinness. Honestly since I'm not much of a beer drinker I had no idea there were different kinds. That may explain it.
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    Sisimama10 said:

    You can do what you want, but I'm staying away from alcohol until after the baby is born. I don't want to risk it. For every study I can find that says small amounts are safe there are studies that say no amount is safe. I would rather just wait.

    That's what I'm thinking. I'd rather go a few months without a drink than a lifetime wishing I hadn't.
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    deidremaria said:

    Sisimama10 said:

    You can do what you want, but I'm staying away from alcohol until after the baby is born. I don't want to risk it. For every study I can find that says small amounts are safe there are studies that say no amount is safe. I would rather just wait.

    That's what I'm thinking. I'd rather go a few months without a drink than a lifetime wishing I hadn't.
    Exactly! The only way I can know for sure is if I don't drink at all.
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    Hmisbell said:

    Well if Gwyneth Paltrow did it it has to be healthy!

    I know right. The moment I read that I went looking for a guiness.
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    Hmisbell said:

    Well if Gwyneth Paltrow did it it has to be healthy!

    And Gwyneth Paltrow would rather smoke crack than eat canned food too. ;) She must know!
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    JulianneJacks said:


    deidremaria said:

    JulianneJacks said:

    deidremaria said:



    I never said it was accurate. I said what goes on around here. I'm pretty sure if you drink 3 guinesses at once when you're about 6 weeks pregnant you're likely to lose the baby. I could be wrong. How about you do a study on it.





    I have an issue with people using anecdotal evidence as a reason for a miscarriage. Most miscarriages are caused by chromosomal abnormalities or uterine abnormalities- not the behavior of the mother.  I have anecdotal evidence of my own from college. I knew a few girls who got pregnant and continued drinking because they did not plan on continuing the pregnancy. They weren't drinking to cause a miscarriage they were just continuing their lifestyle. Binge drinking didn't make them miscarry- they still had to have abortions. I'm not saying that my friends experience holds true for everyone and I don't think that you should view  your acquaintances experience as absolute either. 

     

    Oh my gosh. Can you seriously tell me that their is no part of you that thinks that an excessive amount of alcohol can cause serious issues in a pregnancy other than FAS. I'm no scientist and like I always say "I could be wrong" but I have a hard time thinking that some excessive drinking in the first few weeks of pregnancy may not contribute to a loss. I'm not saying that mothers are the cause of miscarriage. Stop taking my OPINION so personally please. It is my OPINION that things other than FAS can be the result of a mother drinking excessively during pregnancy. Please just let it go!
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  • Sarahjess06Sarahjess06 member
    edited September 2013
    BiggerinRealLife said:

    LittleLady77 said:

    Doesn't that have a pretty high alcohol content? I'm pretty sure 1 beer is okay in the 2nd and 3rd tri but I would really think twice before drinking that stuff.

    It's the same as a Bud Lite. People think it's stronger because it's a dark beer, but alcohol content has little to do with taste.

    Another misconception: calories in beer increase by alcohol content. Higher the alcohol by volume = higher the calories. So a Bud Lite has the same calories as a Guinness. Make me wonder why anyone would ever drink Bud Lite.
    Because bud light is delicious! Yep I'm that girl. I may like all different kinda of wine, but when it comes to beer..... That's where I live :)
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  • bingbongsmamabingbongsmama member
    Is it really that difficult to hold off until April? You'll soon find out that a lot of parenting is about making sacrifices and doing whats best for your child, not necessarily what feels good in the moment.
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    LalaMama81 said:

    Honestly, no I don't think drinking 3 beers at 6 weeks is in anyway a guarantee that you will have a miscarriage. There is very little a woman could do to cause a miscarriage. 


    Do I think drinking 3 beers at a time during pregnancy is a good idea? Of course not, I think it's stupidity at it's finest. 
    And that is fine. It's simply all of our own opinions. That's all. Of course my opinion is based on the guiness here which as mentioned earlier may have a higher alcohol content. (Something I learned today)
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  • deidremariadeidremaria member
    We could all just let this redundant issue go by drinking our smoothies out of guiness glasses like I'm doing today.
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    ColleenSwerb said:

    bingbongsmama said:

    Is it really that difficult to hold off until April? You'll soon find out that a lot of parenting is about making sacrifices and doing whats best for your child, not necessarily what feels good in the moment.

    That's not what it's even about. COULD I abstain completely until he baby is here? Of course I could. But sometimes I want a small glass of wine. And I've decided, that for ME, that's ok. And it offends me when people who abstain act like people who don't have no self control and will be awful selfish parents.
    While I choose to abstain completely I always get utterly annoyed when people use studies that say "the US recommends completely abstaining because if a woman is told it's ok to have one they'll have 5". I think that's insulting and I don't remember being a part of that study. That statement is annoying because it speaks for all women and I certainly wouldn't have 5 drinks. I think everyone has a right to make whatever decision they feel is best for them. Who am I to judge someone for drinking while pregnant. I only know my level of self control. No one else's.
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  • JulianneJacksJulianneJacks member
    Is it really that difficult to hold off until April? You'll soon find out that a lot of parenting is about making sacrifices and doing whats best for your child, not necessarily what feels good in the moment.
    That's not what it's even about. COULD I abstain completely until he baby is here? Of course I could. But sometimes I want a small glass of wine. And I've decided, that for ME, that's ok. And it offends me when people who abstain act like people who don't have no self control and will be awful selfish parents.

    While I choose to abstain completely I always get utterly annoyed when people use studies that say "the US recommends completely abstaining because if a woman is told it's ok to have one they'll have 5". I think that's insulting and I don't remember being a part of that study. That statement is annoying because it speaks for all women and I certainly wouldn't have 5 drinks. I think everyone has a right to make whatever decision they feel is best for them. Who am I to judge someone for drinking while pregnant. I only know my level of self control. No one else's.

     

     

     

     

    No one mentioned a study that said if you tell women they can have a beer they will have 5. My opinion is that the medical community says no alcohol period because if you tell some women they can have a beer they will have more. The medical community has to err on the side of caution. I agree that it is really insulting that most doctors think that women can't make decisions for themselves. It's also very frustrating that most of the studies on moderate drinking contain women who are using hard drugs or drinking excessively so they skew the results. I think that women who decide that they will have the occasional drink in second or third trimester are also showing self control.

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    JulianneJacks said:

    deidremaria said:

    ColleenSwerb said:

    bingbongsmama said:

    Is it really that difficult to hold off until April? You'll soon find out that a lot of parenting is about making sacrifices and doing whats best for your child, not necessarily what feels good in the moment.

    That's not what it's even about. COULD I abstain completely until he baby is here? Of course I could. But sometimes I want a small glass of wine. And I've decided, that for ME, that's ok. And it offends me when people who abstain act like people who don't have no self control and will be awful selfish parents.



    While I choose to abstain completely I always get utterly annoyed when people use studies that say "the US recommends completely abstaining because if a woman is told it's ok to have one they'll have 5". I think that's insulting and I don't remember being a part of that study. That statement is annoying because it speaks for all women and I certainly wouldn't have 5 drinks. I think everyone has a right to make whatever decision they feel is best for them. Who am I to judge someone for drinking while pregnant. I only know my level of self control. No one else's.

     

     

     

     

    No one mentioned a study that said if you tell women they can have a beer they will have 5. My opinion is that the medical community says no alcohol period because if you tell some women they can have a beer they will have more. The medical community has to err on the side of caution. I agree that it is really insulting that most doctors think that women can't make decisions for themselves. It's also very frustrating that most of the studies on moderate drinking contain women who are using hard drugs or
    drinking excessively so they skew the results. I think that women who decide that they will have the occasional drink in second or third trimester are also showing self control.

    You are really beginning to annoy me. I get that my very first comment obviously hit close to home for you for whatever reason. So here it is. I apologize for my opinion!!! Now please stop coming for me. I am asking you to let it go! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and while mine may not make sense to you it is still mine!!! So please just let me be.

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  • agallagher1981agallagher1981 member
    Hmm the comment "is it really so difficult to hold of until April" is a little too strong. I asked a simple question out of curiosity , nobody said I'm sitting around depressed & mouth watering looking to down few pints of Guinness!
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    ColleenSwerb said:

    I was in Europe when I was pregnant with my first. There is just no way women over there give up alcohol completely for the entire 9 months. I just don't believe it. And if FAS isn't anywhere near a problem over there, I don't see what the big deal is.

    I'm not saying everyone should be force fed wine, do what you want, I'm just saying what makes sense to me. And yes I'm fully aware that my argument is mostly anecdotal, and I don't care.

    I don't see why there's anything wrong with us making our decisions based on anecdote. You've seen first hand that if you have self control it's perfectly fine to drink and not harm baby. I know people with FAS and while I am not an alcoholic and have self control I just choose to avoid alcohol the whole time. Everyone has their own reasons for deciding whether or not they'll drink during pregnancy. Some people should just respect that.
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    AprilMay9 said:

    There will never be a controlled study to answer this question. So every study relies on self reporting after the fact. I think we have established some obs think its fine. Some women drink and have healthy babies. And some are more comfortable abstaining completely.

    I wish it could just end at this. :-)
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  • DemoDollDemoDoll member
    I choose to abstain during my pregnancy because I like being a cheap drunk afterwards...1/2 a glass of wine? Totally schwasted!

    However, I do drink O'Douls, have sips of my friend's wine at happy hour and cook with wine.
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  • 1983sas1983sas member
    I had 2 phenomenal margaritas before I knew I was prego with LO1 at around 4 weeks.  He turned out fine!  With that said, I worried about it the entire time and it wasnt worth the guilt - and I didn't even know I was pregnant when I had the drinks.  I can't imagine knowing I was pregnant, and willingly taking more than a sip of wine or anything.
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    deidremaria said:
    Is it really that difficult to hold off until April? You'll soon find out that a lot of parenting is about making sacrifices and doing whats best for your child, not necessarily what feels good in the moment.
    That's not what it's even about. COULD I abstain completely until he baby is here? Of course I could. But sometimes I want a small glass of wine. And I've decided, that for ME, that's ok. And it offends me when people who abstain act like people who don't have no self control and will be awful selfish parents.

    While I choose to abstain completely I always get utterly annoyed when people use studies that say "the US recommends completely abstaining because if a woman is told it's ok to have one they'll have 5". I think that's insulting and I don't remember being a part of that study. That statement is annoying because it speaks for all women and I certainly wouldn't have 5 drinks. I think everyone has a right to make whatever decision they feel is best for them. Who am I to judge someone for drinking while pregnant. I only know my level of self control. No one else's.

     

     

     

     

    No one mentioned a study that said if you tell women they can have a beer they will have 5. My opinion is that the medical community says no alcohol period because if you tell some women they can have a beer they will have more. The medical community has to err on the side of caution. I agree that it is really insulting that most doctors think that women can't make decisions for themselves. It's also very frustrating that most of the studies on moderate drinking contain women who are using hard drugs or drinking excessively so they skew the results. I think that women who decide that they will have the occasional drink in second or third trimester are also showing self control.

    You are really beginning to annoy me. I get that my very first comment obviously hit close to home for you for whatever reason. So here it is. I apologize for my opinion!!! Now please stop coming for me. I am asking you to let it go! Everyone is entitled to an opinion and while mine may not make sense to you it is still mine!!! So please just let me be.

    I respect your opinion but I reserve the right to disagree with you and correct you when you misquote. Aside from that I really don't care. Honestly internet randos don't matter that much to me to cause me to feel annoyance. I suggest you not take this site so seriously. Take care!
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  • snappyKsnappyK member
    edited September 2013
    For the record, there have been large scale studies that do not rely on years-later recollections from women with children who have behavioral problems that show no connection between low to moderate drinking and behavioral issues or IQ deficits.

    If you guys are interested in reading about recent studies on all sorta of pregnancy issues, I highly reccommend the book "Expecting Better". It just came out this year, and it's really good and an easy read.
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