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Working Mom "Loneliness"

Hi Ladies,

It's been about 10 months since I started working full time after baby.  My daughter is now 17 months.  Before I had her, I worked in NYC and commuted rather far to work.  Therefore, after she was born, I quit my job and searched for something local- which I found.  I am really lucky that I can work from home part of the time and go into the office part of the time.  However, outside of work, I am suffering a little.

Between work, caring for and spending time with my toddler, making food for my family (husband, me and baby), taking care of chores and just surviving, I feel that my social interation is really limited on week days.  Before I started working I made some friends through a local playgroup- many of which are now SAHM who do things together on the week days.  They are all still nice to me, but I feel left out of that scene because I simply dont have time to get together.  Weekends get busy between spending time with family and other friend get togethers (when we can arrange them). There is just not enough time to see everyone I want to see, and maintain all of the relationships I want to have.

I see so many people doing things on Social Media, and posting all of these projects to pinterest, and I get depressed a bit, beacuse majority of the time my life consists of the "need to get done" rather than, the "want to do."  I'm just wondering if my feelings are normal.  I know its kinda depressing, but is this part of being a working mom. I dont feel like part of a "working mom club" or anything- I just sorta feel like I am floating alone.  I guess I'm not that seasoned as a working mom and I am wondering if other people ever feel like this, and what they do to combat it?

 

 

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Re: Working Mom "Loneliness"

  • I ignore any projects people do in their free time.  Just because they want to do them and have the time to doesn't mean that I should be doing the same thing and that I'm failing because I haven't done theat. 

    I think it's normal to feel like there aren't enough hours in the day to do all that you want to do. And that's probably true whether you're a SAHM (who might want more time alone or to socialize outside of playdates) or a WOHM (who might want more time to do social activities).

    Are there friends you can get together with for lunch?  Either coworkers, or SAHM friends on days when you're working at home?  Are there ways to either be more streamlined doing your chores, or things you can slack on a little, so that you have more time for the social stuff you miss?

     

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  • You have to take the initiative and schedule mom nights out. I find that they are fun ways to relax and catch up with friends. I do a couple of month during the work week and after the kids go to bed.  Also, give yourself time. Adjusting to having a child takes some. time. You'll start making working mom friends who have the same schedule as you but you have to realize too that you won't have as much socialization being a WM than a SAHM and that's okay. You're not missing out that much. It is the same conversations about kids etc over and over again.  Try to stay away from social media because people brag to make themselves look better etc and majority of the time, it just makes you feel super lame.  If it is bringing you down, ban Facebook for awhile to get your head on straight again.

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  • I think working from home can be difficult because of the lack of social interaction.  I agree with PP.  Are there friends you can have lunch with on those days?  Or maybe you can have dinner with friends after DD goes to bed.  I think part of it is being a working mom.  I feel like I'm in survival mode Monday-Friday, let alone social time.  My social time is with co-workers when I'm at work. 

    How many days a week do you go in to the office?  Maybe increasing the number of days would help.  It seems a little crazy to add getting ready and the commute, but if it is socialization that you need, it would provide that.
  • shannmshannm member
    edited September 2013
    Frankly, I don't make friends outside of work. In the past, I have been blessed with some fabulous coworkers. I'm in a new position now and I do miss my old coworkers but honestly, I'm too busy to get hung up on it. Maybe that's just my personality though, I've always been kind of a loner and perfectly content to be at home alone trying a new recipe or surfing the net.

    In your situation, because it is bothering you, I would carve out the time for an activity that you enjoy. Set up a time with that SAHM group that works with your schedule. Plan a lunch date with an old friend. Set up a girls night out on some friday night and hit the town. You are just going to have to make the time if it is that important to you.
  • Because you work during the day, I would start looking for some activity you can do at night like a book club or something similar.

    And by the way, I bet some of those SAHM's feel lonely too, even though they do get together with other moms during the week sometimes. The grass is always greener you know. Oh, and pinterest and FB is full of lies so just ignore all that too.



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  • I could have written this post myself, I have suffered with working mom loneliness a lot. I quit Pinterest all together b/c it only brought me stress.

    My DH and I had a talk about how spending our weekends doing chores was making us feel like we weren't really living our lives. We hired a biweekly cleaning service and I try to run errands during the week on my lunch break. We now focus a lot more on enjoying our weekends as a family.

    My dd is now 3, and is starting to have more activities- dance, swim, bday parties for kids at daycare. So while I still don't have many close working mom friends, I do have more opportunities to be around other working parents. I think it just gets easier as the kids get older.

    For me, I also was unhappy in my job before. I switched jobs and am very friendly with my new coworkers. I realized that part of my longing to SAH was b/c I wasn't happy at work. Finding ways to make myself happier improved my overall outlook on my situation. I still get lonely, but I know I'm not alone.
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  • Thanks for the feedback.  I have been making an effort to make plans with friends, but I am still working on not comparing, or feeling like I am missing something.  I appreciate everyone's thoughts! Good luck to all!
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  • I can definitely relate to this. My DH works a LOT, and I'm really social. Pre-marriage and early in our marriage, I played on some fun sports teams and did a lot with friends while he was working. I.e. happy hour after work, football game (playing) plus lunch/beers on Saturdays, meeting up with friends for dinner/movie on the weekends, walks/runs, etc. Once we had a baby, most of that fell by the wayside and I felt kind of isolated doing laundry at home on the weekend and not getting my social outlets. It's a big transition, and you'll eventually find a new social normal. Maybe you can make some changes here and there and try to find some new groups and slowly things will start to fall into place. It does get easier as kids get older. Also, more of my friends have kids now, so the world I left when I had a baby is different now anyway, and there are starting to be more "play date" type things going on. 

    Now that I am planning to leave my job, I'm kind of nervous about another transition to SAH. I don't have any "mom friends" out where I live and am not in any mom groups, so I'll be working on building another network. It's easier now b/c at least I know some people through DD's preschool. Good luck!
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  • I'm convinced that social media is full of liars. People love to seem like they're doing it all and have it all. One great thing for me as a working mom is that I do not have the time to worry about what other people are doing.  If this is bothering you, take a step back. Don't log into Pinterest. Deactivate your Facebook account. Who knows, you may feel a million times better.

    Maintaining relationships is something I really struggle with. I try to keep up with friends on weekends. We're always out and about so I try to clue friends in as well so if they want to meet up with their kiddos, great. Occasionally I'll do a work happy hour but that's about it. Not my strong point so I feel you on that struggle.

  • I think people make too many assumptions from a post or two on FB.  I've posted Pinterest-y things I've done.  But I've done like, 3 ever so it's not like I'm some craft wizard or something :)  But someone could read that and because she just read about three other moms and their craft projects, she feels behind.  Maybe the person crafting it up doesn't see friends or family on the weekend.  At the end of the day, not one single thing that another person does or doesn't do should influence how you think you're doing in life.  If you're happy, you're doing great.  If you're not happy, make small changes but don't let yourself be pulled into unhappiness just because you think you aren't measuring up.
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  • I wanted to add that even if someone seems to have a very busy social life, it doesn’t mean that the person is not lonely.  Take me for example, I moved to this city about a decade ago and for the first 5 or 6 years, I was pulling 100 hour weeks so didn’t have time to make friends.  By the time work slowed down, DH has made a ton of friends so I just ended up hanging out with the “couples” friends that he has made.  So I don’t really have my own friends, even though we have a very full social calendar.  I have good co-workers but everyone is super busy outside of work.  Ever since DS came along, life has gotten even more busy and nowadays all of our free time is spent with people with young kids.  Even when we schedule “parents’ night out”, the conversations are still mostly about our kids and I still don’t feel like I’ve gotten to know these people (some of whom I’ve known for years now) or what they are like outside of their children.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

    I still don’t have anyone local that I can just call up and chat or go grab a drink with.  That makes me sad sometimes.  Luckily I’m still super close with my best friend and we have “phone hang-outs” every few weeks.

  • ClaryPax said:
    First of all I've read some studies, I don't have the source but just try googling them, where people are more depressed when they look at FB and Pinterst.
    I've read that as well. Facebook does not capture life in its fullness. At its best, FB is really an opportunity to share the best parts of your life with people you want to celebrate with. But if you start to see update after update of only the more celebratory moments in life, then you might forget all the other parts of life that surround it and it's easy to feel envious and get depressed. 

    Give yourself a FB break. Set up a social lunch on one of the days you work from home. Whenever I start to feel overwhelmed with life and less than happy, I find that a simple 2 hour outing - either a manicure by myself or brunch with an old friend - really rejuvenates me. 
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  • So, I have a four year old and I do sometimes still feel very isolated, still, I'm afraid. I just feel like it takes all I have to work all day at a stressful job, take care of the kids when I get home...by the time I put them down (which isn't late) I just don't have the energy it would take to connect with friends. Maybe this is one of the areas where being an older mom (I'm about to turn 42) really hits you - you have energy for work and kids and little else. I'm hoping as they get a little more independent I won't have to be 100-percent engaged with them every evening and then when they go to bed I'll have a little energy left for something else.

    I don't go on FB more than twice a week or so, if that often, so I can't say it bothers me. I did actually recently unfriend a single friend of mine who is constantly bragging about his trips, etc. but has never once commented or liked a single one of my posts (which do not at all focus only on my kids). But I agree with the above posters that you should definitely turn down your usage if it bothers you. It's such a huge time waster as it is.
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  • I totally understand and was just thinking about how small my social circle has become. I know that for me as a WM, I like to spend my evenings and weekends with my kids and my husband. Luckily, the friends that I am really close with, have kids too and totally get it, so we end up doing things that still allow us to be social as adults and include the kids- having BBQ's at each others houses, letting the kids watch a movie and we can have a glass of wine, etc....When I do need to completely get away, I like to do things that don't take too much time like getting my nails done or meeting for a quick lunch with a friend. Even an hour or two with friends is enough to fill my need for social time.

    And I agree with the previous posters- what we see on FB and Pintrest is BS. People only show the great things going on with their lives. And, this may get me flamed, but the people that I know that post all of their arts and crafts and inspriring quotes and pictures of their kids all of the time on FB are some of the most unhappy people that I know- It's like they can live happier in social media than real life.

  • DivallynDivallyn member
    edited September 2013

    I agree with the social media thing. People use it as a means to create a false impression on their daily lives. SAHM are notorious for this. My SAHM friends have told me its all BS. Its not all puppies and rainbows for them either. They are desperate to get away from their kids (while at least the ones I know are). I usually have a girls night with WM and SAHM once a month at 7:30 at a local pub.

    Then we try to meet up with other families at least twice a month during the weekends. This Sunday we are meeting some other young families at a local attraction.

    Now that I am back at work I have a lot less loneliness than when I stayed home but I do work in the office 4-5 days a week. 

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  • Lots of great advice already. One of the things I LOVE to do is have lunch with my friends that are working moms (or even coffee/breakfast before work!). You get some girly social time, but it works well with your WM schedule, and you probably have more in common than you would with some SAHMs. I was also in a bookclub with some friends for a while. But DH works late a lot of evenings, so its really hard for us. If your DH gets home early enough to deal with LO during the week - try joining a bookclub or exercise class or something like that where you could socialize with other people. HTH and GL!  You are NOT alone. I'm frequently envious of my SAHM friends and their MOPS sessions and playgroups. 
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  • PseudoMamaPseudoMama member
    edited September 2013
    You could look into some volunteer opportunities that maybe your job would support. I joined Junior League, and though I know it is a lot different out West than it is in NY, I made a lot of good friends through that. Or some other non profit might have fun committees or events you could get involved with during your working day. It is a pretty minimal time commitment, but even if it's one day or one night out a month it is fun. It also puts a lot of people together that have a bunch of stuff in common but don't seem to have time (hence going during work). I work for a bank so they are more supportive of community involvement than other industries might be, but worth checking out.
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