July 2013 Moms

40 minute naps driving me insane!

This is our third baby so I'm very familiar with the "45 minute intruder" but man, it's making me want to tear my hair out. I've tried all the old tricks that I remember from my other 2 boys but nothing is working. Today, we were lucky if we got 30 mins. He is waking up grumpy and wants to nurse for comfort but also wants to nurse to go to sleep so he is constantly nursing. This i getting exhausting and I feel like I'm neglecting my 3 year old while trying to get him to sleep and back to sleep.

DS is 8 weeks.... I know my other 2 grew out of this phase but I can't remember when. Is anyone else in the same boat? Have you found anything that works? I guess misery loves company :)

Re: 40 minute naps driving me insane!

  • I'm so glad I'm not alone. Don't get me wrong, I know how blessed I am and adore my little man but I'm tired, as nights haven't been much better and I would love just a bit of a break. I'd also like LO to feel rested and happy. Ugh.
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  • Sounds like the 8 week growth and as you know, the time will pass. I would just feed him as much as he wants and get yourself a nice bottle of wine. I hope it's over before you start pulling at your hair. Those growth spurt/wonder weeks are ass kickers.
                                   






     
                                 
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  • My LO is this way too. I'm a FTM so I'm kind of worried about what will happen when he goes to daycare. I know they can't spend all day holding him so he naps and I have no clue how much milk I need to send since he nurses all day. How do these growth spurts go when they're in daycare and not able to nurse/be held all day?

     

  • I've definitely been there and I can understand feeling like there's just not enough of you to go around. It sounds like you have a pretty good handle on what to expect. Just know that you're not alone and big hugs to you!


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  • Big hugs y'all. I've had success with swaddling and putting DS in the swing. He's going on a 3 hour nap this way right now. Granted, he's younger than y'all's LO's but maybe try something like that?


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  • I am so jealous of anyone who's LO sleeps for any length of time. Unless he is in the Ergo, DS sleeps for 30 min max. Maybe an hour in the Ergo. He wants to nurse 24/7. I'm pretty sure he is trying to kill me.

     

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  • My LO is ten weeks today and we've been dealing with 30 minute naps for 3-4 weeks now. I've tried everything as well and am sitting here (rocking him) and praying this is just a phase that ends soon...
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  • I've just given up being upset about it. I get super happy if he naps for 45 minutes.
  • Also, mine is 12.5 weeks...
  • This board is so great. There's always someone willing to give advice or going through the same thing. It's so nice to know you're not alone....

    I've tried the swing and swaddle. He NEEDS the swaddle to sleep for any length of time but it seriously pisses him off the second I put him in it unless I nurse him right away. The swing used to get us 2-3 hours naps but now it makes no difference. He just cannot transition onto that next sleep cycle. I finally laid down with him this evening when DH got home from work and could look after the other boys and let him nurse side lying for his whole nap. I got an hour and 10 mins out of him, until I had to move because my back was killing me. He constantly rooted for my nipple in his sleep then would spit it out after 5 mins then look for it again. Then looked absolutely disgusted when I tried to slip a paci in too lol. It was actually nice laying there with him but definitely not practical on a daily basis with the other kids.

    I know this phase is relatively short but it's sometimes hard to remember when you're in the thick of it...thanks again for the advice and all those who can commiserate!
  • Is it the 8 week wonder week? 'cause we got the same thing going on here. He won't nap during the day unless he is in someone's arms. The minute we put him down he starts screaming. Up until last Sunday, he hardly ever cried. I keep reading about the Wonder Weeks and this feels like the 8week one---and mine is gonna be nine weeks on Saturday. But sheesh.
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  • maryoosa said:

    Is it the 8 week wonder week? 'cause we got the same thing going on here. He won't nap during the day unless he is in someone's arms. The minute we put him down he starts screaming. Up until last Sunday, he hardly ever cried. I keep reading about the Wonder Weeks and this feels like the 8week one---and mine is gonna be nine weeks on Saturday. But sheesh.

    This is exactly us. To the day. He will be 9 weeks on Saturday and this has been going on for almost 2 weeks now but has definitely gotten worse in the last 2 days. He used to go down fine without the boob, but would just wake 40 mins in. Now you would think we're murdering him when we try to put him down for a nap without letting him nurse. Even when I'm holding him, if my boob isn't in his mouth, he wakes after 5 mins completely P.O.'d. Has to be boob. Nothing else will do AND he hates when I wear him. Ugh.
  • kdasr said:

    This has been us the last 2 days. Started the night she turned 8 weeks. Won't nap more than 20-30 minutes and wants to nurse 24/7. She used to sleep about 5.5 hours at night and now I'm lucky to get 2. Paci doesn't cut it, has to be boob. Considering all our BFing issues and current Thrush, I feel like I'm dying.

    I'm so sorry for you. This is how it is for us at night now too. I so so so wish he would take a paci. Hugs to you, Mama.

  • Have any of you guys read up on the "90-Minute Baby Sleep Program"?

    My sister lent it to me and I've found it's been super helpful for understanding his sleep patterns and I've been better able to predict when to put him down for naps and it lets me predict better how long he'll stay down, and it's eerily accurate. It's based on understanding human sleep rhythms and our 90-minute sleeping cycles. I now can tell once I've missed the window of his readiness for a nap, that's when all hell breaks loose. Now I can get ahead of it and I've had many times where I literally just swaddle him, put him in the swing while he's still seemingly wide awake, and within 3-4 mins he's out. No crying, no fussing, no needing the pacifier, no boob. It's miraculous.

    He's not quite at 90-minute reliable intervals yet because he's still only young (12 weeks...not quite at adult cycles yet), mostly in the morning he's still going by 45 minute intervals.

    It makes me feel so much better in control of understanding his napping schedules. Often times I can time exactly when he'll rouse out of a 45 minute cycle and even if he fusses or seems awake I can usually get him back down for another 45. The book doesn't force a schedule per se, you still need to follow the lead of your baby etc.

    It might help some of you guys...

    Warning: it does recommend CIO later on around 6 months for night time sleeping...which I am not entirely on board with nor am I endorsing. I just happen to find the 90-minute interval/cycle thing quite interesting and has been helpful from a scientific point of view in managing LO's napping etc.

  • Glad I read this. Isaac has been so fussy. He will be nine weeks on Saturday. He wants to nurse all the time but fusses at the breast. It's exhausting! He also needs to nap all the time but wants me there to do it.
  • OK...here is what is working for us depending on the day: snuggling in the burp position, swaddling in the rock and play, walking in the stroller. That's it.


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  • OMG. I'm afraid to even say it, for fear of jinxing but its been an hour and counting....

    This morning, he did the same, predictable thing. He woke at 40 mins completely grumpy. I was going to "boob" him back to sleep but found myself a but resentful about it (maybe that makes me a bad mommy but I'm just not one of those who loves nursing non stop) so I swaddled him, held him face out, kind of tummy down and jiggled and shushed him for 10 mins and he was back out but only for half an hour. Got him up, nursed him and then half an hour later he was tired again so I did the same thing and he went down and is still down. I don't know if its a fluke or what but I'll take it.
  • I have been dealing with this forever. I finally bought the No Cry Nap Solution (by the same author, Elizabeth Pantley, as the No Cry Sleep Solution). I highly recommend it. Check out the reviews on Amazon to get more info.

    I just downloaded it yesterday and am still going through it, but one great thing she points out is that when they wake up from their 40 minute (or however long your LO's is) cycle, they need to exact same situation in place to which they first fell asleep. For example, if you were rocking and patting them, they need to be rocked and patted at that magical moment when they are trying to transition to the next cycle. Same with nursing. Thus, I'm trying to break the habit of nursing her down so that she can get back to sleep after those cycles. I've been relying on the swing (probably shouldn't, but she needs to take some quality naps and I'll do anything at this point) to put her down, and it seems to be working ok. At least we got one good nap yesterday and we seem to be in the middle of one now.

    Anyways, sorry this is long. You're not alone, mama! I can't imagine trying to do this with other little ones running around...
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  • I'm getting the 40mins naps too, but with 2 hours of awake time in between!! He'll show all the sleepy signs and impossible to get him to fall asleep.
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