I feel like a broken record...

danielle2583 · September 2013

but does anyone's LO still not sttn?

Mine hasn't...pretty much ever. I feel like I've done it all and I'm completely at my wit's end. I just want to sleep at night OR get some mommy time during the day while there's a nap. Neither of which I get.

Really thinking I need to schedule a dr. apt to talk about the not sleeping issue because it seems abnormal

rp-chicago-mom · September 2013

Do you nurse?

Have you tried CIO? MOTN CIO was hard but by night three he was hardly crying at all. We're two weeks in and I just feel silly for waiting. I still haven't adjusted and wake up but he has.

I seriously thought I'd never get there either but as it stands he's down at 8, up at 5:30 to nurse and up for the day at 7:00-7:30. That's not quite STTN but I allow the 5:30 because I think it buys a little extra time.

Toni79 · September 2013

No STTN in my house either!

How often is your LO getting up?

At 7 months we did Ferber for the inital falling asleep at bedtime, and after a few nights that worked well for us. Now for naps and bedtime she'll fuss for less than a minute and then DD is asleep.

But I did not do Ferber for MOTN. I'm a working mom and I BF, so as tired as I was (and am), those MOTN BF sessions were somewhat of our quality time. Plus I'm sure it helped maintain my supply.

I've been letting her drop the sessions on her own (for the most part).

At 9 months she was still getting up and BFing 3 times at night.

By 11 months she had dropped to getting up and BFing 2 times at night.

(If I remember I tried making the sessions shorter ... I can't remember when I tried that ... but it didn't work too much because I'd fall asleep while BFing! LOL! But I think that is what got her to go from 3 sessions to 2 sessions, so it must have worked somewhat!).

Right around her birthday she was down to once a night. And that is where we've been since. However, the time is inconsistant. When she wakes I try to give her a few minutes to see if she'll self soothe. If after 5-10 minutes she fell back asleep, great! If not I'd go in and BF. So sometimes I'll BF at midnight, sometimes its 1 am, or 3 am. It really is inconsistant.

I took DD to the drs last week becasue she was sick. And the PA gave me a hard time for still BFing in the MOTN. I can't balme her. But I am pretty proud that we went from 3 MOTN sessions to 1 in 3 months. I think that is a huge improvement!

I think once DD gets over her cold, and she's feeling better I might try more activly to eliminate that last session. Since she's been sick she wants to BF non-stop at night! Before she got sick she randomly STTN 3 nights in a row ... so I think there is a light at the end of the tunnel!

I'm not sure what our plan of attack will be? Maybe CIO? Or maybe I'll send DH in there to soothe her and do intervals (if I go in she'll want boobies!). The PA suggested sending Dh in with a sippy of water, and hopefully after a few nights she'll stop waking if she doesn't get what she wants. We;ll see.

Good luck!

SJandVA · September 2013

Nope, not even close. She sleeps like a newborn. DD1 did as well. Both just want/ed my boob. She also only naps once for 75 minutes.
All I can say is it won't be like this forever. I promise.

vvvvvfee · September 2013

DS is still up once or twice a night to nurse. he is not a big sleeper. he has never slept more than 8-9 hours at a stretch. and he doesn't nap more than an hour or so a day. we don't want to do CIO, but he is getting better bit by bit.

i read somewhere (now i forget where) that learning how to get to sleep and sleeping through the night are just skills that kids will develop when they're ready. you can do things to support them and make it easier for them to get there, but you can't force them to do it, any more than you can force a kid to crawl or walk before they're physiologically able to. i try to look at it from that perspective.

zbeesma86 · September 2013

First let me say- I'm sorry. I know it's frustrating!

DD is 14 months and has her weeks

Some weeks she sleeps fine through the night

Other weeks she doesn't (teething, growing, learning a new skill, lost her paci, too hot, too cold, bad dream, who knows..)

When LO wakes at night- is she waking up screaming? or is she fussing and readjusting? I USED to run in at the first noise I heard and that usually made it worse- DD would see me, then want held, so I would rock her back to sleep. Now when I hear her on the monitor I wait 10 mins. Usually she is readjusting and finding her pacifier then passes back out.

If she sits up and takes her paci out and starts jibber jabbing it is because her diaper is too full or she pooped- so I will go in and change her then rock her back to sleep.

Do you do a bedtime routine? Is she too tired from not napping during the day that you need to push bedtime back? What time do you lay her down?

DaisyHeadMayzie · September 2013

My DD doesn't sleep through the night either. Every night is a bit different.

Some nights she sleeps about 5 hours then wakes up crying. The only thing that gets her back to bed is a few sips of milk. Most of the time she wakes up because she pooped, though. Last night she woke up at 11:30 because she wet her diaper (how she managed to pee through it in 3.5 hours in beyond me). She had some milk, cried for a while then fell asleep until I woke her up at 7:15. The most she's ever slept consecutively was 10 hours...but that's very rare.

We did Ferber at 7 months because she was waking every hour. That got us to the point where she would sleep for 3-4 hours at a crack. In June we did CIO without checkins. It was rough and she could go up to 90 minutes screaming. Eventually (it took at least a week) she started sleeping until 4 or 5 before she'd wake up.

Every kiddo is different. Sadly, I lost when it came to the sleeping baby lottery. It drives me nuts to hear my coworker brag about his daughter who's been sleeping through the night and she's only 3 months. I keep telling him tho wait for the 4-month wakeful

gollywollypog · September 2013

You are not alone! It sucks, but like SJandVA said, it won't last forever. The other ladies have lots of good advice!

austenfan919 · September 2013

DS still doesn't STTN either. He gets up once or twice to nurse still.

After his birthday, I tried Dr. Jay Gordon's night weaning plan (recommended on the BF board) to cut out the 2nd (and sometimes 3rd) night feeding. It only took two nights of a little fussing for it to work. And so I dream-fed him once before I went to bed and that was it. Until he got his next tooth two weeks later.

After it was in, I tried the cut the 2nd feeding again, but he just screamed. And besides that I hate to hear that, he shares a room with DD, and I don't want her to wake up. At least the 3rd night session seems to truly be done. And the time between the first and second is increasing.

He isn't very interested in BFing during the day either. I could probably day wean him and he wouldn't care.

DoctorsWifey · September 2013

It is very typical that at this age the baby is still not sleeping through the night. They are only 13 months give or take. My daughter does not sleep all night long. Technically STTN is considered 10pm-2am, so with that said, most babies very well could be STTN.

Though that doesn't help us out any.

My daughter goes down at 10pm, wakes around 219am whines for a few moments and puts herself back to sleep, wakes again at 4/5 I nurse her and she is back down until 8ish, where either we get up or nurse and back asleep till 10 or nurse and plays in her crib/talks to herself for an hour.

She takes one 2.5-3 hour nap from 3-6ish. Sometimes a little earlier if she is super tired.

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