Anyone else still not STTN and a question for those that are.

kangtini · September 2013

LO turned 10 months today, and I am committed to getting this baby to STTN! So I have a question for those that have babies that STTN (which is everyone else, I am sure!), how long before you put your LO to bed is their last feeding? I think LO has a strong food- sleep association and I read something that says the last feeding should we at least 20 mins before they go to bed. I am looking for the SECRET to make him STTN. HELP.

doggiemom4 · September 2013

Our bedtime routine goes like this:

(All times vary; so I will be giving in between times)

530-630- dinner (finger foods)

630-715- DH and I eat

745-830- bath

830-9- 8 oz bottle and rocking

830-10- LO is asleep (He sleeps about 10.5-11.5 hours)

techg0ddess · September 2013

Our STTN is pretty hit or miss these days unless he's in bed with us and event then he tosses and turns and crawls into the wall so he keeps everyone up. Last night he finally STTN in his own bed after about a month of not sleeping in his bed. I do find that when he gets his last bottle before he passes at (8:30pm bottle and then pass out at 9pm after the bottle is done), he does sleep longer. Last night he got the bottle at the 8:30pm and passed out at 9pm. Other times he's asleep before that point and gets the last bottle at 6pm.

I really think the wonder weeks really do mess with he sleep patterns.

CCM82909 · September 2013

We're still not STTN, and now DS1 is up once a night too. Last night DS2 was up 3 times, midnight, 3:30, and 6. We had DS2 waking only once a night, so hopefully it'll go back to that.

Our bedtime routine is:

5:30-6:30 - dinner

6:30-7 - playing

7-7:30 - bath and book

7:30-8 - nurse and bed

shaunnna · September 2013

kiraliz2 said:
DS sttn. It doesn't really matter when I give him his last feeding. It can be 5 min or 30 min, he still sttn.

Yeah this is DS also.

Sprite2012 · September 2013

shaunnna said:

DS sttn. It doesn't really matter when I give him his last feeding. It can be 5 min or 30 min, he still sttn.
Yeah this is DS also.

Me three.

Bedtime is 7-7:30pm. He sleeps until 6:30-7am.

angielayne926 · September 2013

kiraliz2 said:
DS sttn. It doesn't really matter when I give him his last feeding. It can be 5 min or 30 min, he still sttn.

This for us too

billybumbler · September 2013

I give her a bottle in her room in the dark and put her to bed whether she's asleep or not. Sometimes she'll talk to herself for a few minutes and then fall asleep. We did sleep train though, maybe you could try feeding earlier and then sleep training to break the association? GL!

lyndsihutson · September 2013

~X(

E doesnt STTN yet either, you are not alone. The only was for me to get any rest is to keep her in my bed so i just pop a boob in her mouth and sleep through it. I WISH i could get her in her own bed but i dont have help or the strength to be up all night. Being pregnant makes me so tired!

Maebb · September 2013

I'm another tired mom with a DS who doesn't STTN consistently.

Some nights he does, and some nights not. The longest ever was 8 hours. Last night was:

9:00 - bed
3:30 - eat
5:30 - cried a bit, but went back to sleep on his own
7:00 - awake

If you find a magic solution that doesn't involve Benadryl, please let me know.

benmichele · September 2013

You're not alone, LO wakes between 4 and 5am to nurse. :-( I dropped the 2am feeding by seeing if he would fall asleep after 5-10 of crying, and he did. I told myself I was going to do this for the 4-5am feeding this weekend, but I wussed out...

He eats dinner with us ~6:30pm

Bath ~7pm

Nurse ~7:30pm

Bed ~8pm

Nurse @ 4 or 5am

Up for the day ~7am

LuckyMissus · September 2013

Sprite2012 said:

shaunnna said:

DS sttn. It doesn't really matter when I give him his last feeding. It can be 5 min or 30 min, he still sttn.
Yeah this is DS also.

Me three.

Bedtime is 7-7:30pm. He sleeps until 6:30-7am.

This is us, too.

I can't remember if you've attempted sleep training or not, but Ferber was the only secret I ever found. Until they can settle themselves back down to sleep, there will be no STTN.

kangtini · September 2013

I can put him down awake and he will fall asleep for naps and for bedtime with some crying (3-5 mins). In the middle of the night, he will only go back to sleep if I nurse him. I have tried everything else in the MOTN and nothing works. I attempted to do CIO for MOTN waking . . . but I couldn't deal . . . he was up for like two hours, so I caved. My new plan is to move up the feeding before bed to make sure there is no association and cut back the time in the MOTN until hopefully he gives it up. Ugh . . . I am tired.

LBStewart · September 2013

It's hit or miss in our house. M has been teething which has made things interesting. Typically we eat dinner around 6:30. Then we go for a walk, play time, and then bath. I nurse her in her room in the dark at 8. She used to go to sleep fine and then if she woke up, it would be later. Lately she's been struggling to fall asleep. It's been taking about an hour of rocking for her to fall asleep.

maven212 · September 2013

if it makes you feel any better we are not sttn, though I suppose it depends on what you consider sttn. She has been known to sleep 5 hours straight, but this doesn't happen most nights. Even when she was super sick, she was dopey but stayed up. Basically, what happens is she sleeps for a while and if she struggles to roll over or something like that she partially wakes up, sits up and sort of sleep sits and cries or sleep cruises and cries. Sometimes I can give her the pacifier and pat her on the back and she goes back down, but most times she gets frustrated, hysterical and we have to take her out to see our furrball so that she will calm down, and go back to sleep. to get her to do that, we usually have to lie beside her on the bed letting her hold our finger. She isn't one for rocking or cuddling.

All of this said - it is really hard for me to judge. She has had a really rough month, first the kidney infection, then a cold and now the teeth are cutting. In anycase, if you want to know that you are not alone, I'm here to tell you you have company.

fusionbride · September 2013

my LO doesn't sleep through the night either. There was a glimmer of hope a few weeks ago where she would sleep until 5am, and even STTN twice, but then she regressed and is getting up to eat usually twice now-- about midnight and 5am. She falls asleep fine at bedtime and naps so it isn't an association issue-- she has gotten used to eating during the night-- she eats the most in the MOTN feedings. To answer your question, she eats solids at 5:30, then nurses at 7, then brushes teeth, gets into PJs, reads story and goes down to sleep around 7:15

I don't think there is a magical secret, but I think we are going to try to time her MOTN nursing sessions and drop them one at a time by reducing the length of time she nurses-- I hope that will be the easiest way to train her to take her calories in at other times of the day, and also the gentlest way on my milk supply to adjust. But we haven't started yet-- I am not a logical or disciplined thinker when she is screaming her head off in the MOTN and have been grumpily caving lately.

Hummingbirdbaby3 · September 2013

Benjamin STTN unless there's a teething issue. He's got 8 now! Anyhoo, we do solids at 5, go for a walk ,play music and play until 7. Bath at 7 then rock and bottle 7:15. He is usually asleep when we put him down but if he's drowsy he gets to sleep on his own as well.

LuckyMissus · September 2013

kangtini said:

I can put him down awake and he will fall asleep for naps and for bedtime with some crying (3-5 mins). In the middle of the night, he will only go back to sleep if I nurse him. I have tried everything else in the MOTN and nothing works. I attempted to do CIO for MOTN waking . . . but I couldn't deal . . . he was up for like two hours, so I caved. My new plan is to move up the feeding before bed to make sure there is no association and cut back the time in the MOTN until hopefully he gives it up. Ugh . . . I am tired.

Do you mean cutting back MOTN feeding time? If so, that was our biggest issue, and Ferber was really helpful with it. F was up wanting to eat all night long, I think he was eating like 12oz over the course of the night for a while. So, I followed the plan in the book for cutting out night feedings before we did the CIO part. He got down to just eating 3oz. once at like 3am-ish, and then just dropped it on his own around 6mo. HTH!

SurpriseAt39 · September 2013

No STTN here.

Usually just one wake up at night, but sometimes 2. He nurses. Back to sleep at those times.

I have no plans to wean at night since I figure he will do it on his own before the new baby arrives.

tngrl3 · September 2013

N has been STTN for several months. I nurse him to sleep most nights. Lately though I have been nursing him and then putting him drowsy. He fusses for about 45 seconds and rolls over and goes to sleep. Bedtime is between 830-9 depending on his cues.Our routine is pjs, read stories, nurse, crib. Every now and then he wakes up during the night and I nurse him if he does. He usually goes right back to sleep. Most nights he sleeps about 10-11 hours. I must say he has always been a fairly good sleeper. He still takes 2 naps a day that are 1.5-2 hours each.

Good luck to you!

ETA I never any type of sleep training. I love our night time cuddles and he puts himself to sleep for most naps. You have to find what works for you though as every baby is different.

maven212 · September 2013

My LO just got up with either tooth or ear pain, nursed and rolled over onto the baby health guide I was reading. She is out, so I'm now on here looking for the same info..

I wanted to also say that we have a routine - play, eat, bath, books, bottle, possibly nurse, bed. It has been in place with a few variations since she was 9 weeks old. What I think it helps with the most, in our case, is the speed with which she goes down. She literally takes seconds to go to sleep most nights. She finishes drinking, we rinse her mouth with water and she pads around on the bed until she finds a comfortable position and is out. Whether or not she stays down is the issue. She rarely falls asleep in the crib - usually on our bed, and then shifted to the crib. She wakes 3x or more most nights.

Gargita · September 2013

H just started sttn about 50% of the time in the last two weeks. I nurse him to sleep at night. We do solids at 6 and he's nursing by 7:15 or so. I consider anything after 5 am sleeping through. He's 10 months old today. We haven't done any sleep training.

winecastle14 · September 2013

There's nothing wrong with your baby if they don't STTN. Some babies do and some don't. If they know how to self soothe and are doing that some times and not others, it probably means that they are truly hungry if they can't settle back down with little to no interaction. We did a gentle sleep training (not letting her cry for more than 10 or so minutes) and she learned how to put herself back to sleep. She still wakes up to eat between 4-5 and I've just accepted it that she needs an extra feeding. She wakes up sometimes before then if she has a nightmare and can't always get settled back by herself so DH goes in and pats her and gives her a paci and she goes right back to sleep. I know if she does that then she isn't hungry. Sorry to say that I don't think that there is a secret. We'll just have to look forward to the day when they do and until then, have an extra cup of coffee

leash_04 · September 2013

Hi there. My DD is still hit or miss with STTN. I always nurse around 7:30 and put her down straight after. I have found that a constant sound machine in her room is making a big difference, as opposed to the 45 min sleep sheep. Hope that helps!

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