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DC Teacher told me I should be a SAHM (sort of double post)

Wow, if this isn't the icing on the cake.

I posted yesterday about my 1 1/2 year olds inflexible daycare teacher. I've been sticking around more in the morning because he clings to me for dear life when I try and drop him off. That and I want to make sure he gets settled and is taken care of before I leave.

The teacher sent home a pamphlet on 'separation anxiety' yesterday and basically told me to drop him off and leave immediately because I was interfering with his room. I reminded her that it's not her room, and that I am the parent and I will stick around for 10 minutes if I so choose. and SHE ACTUALLY TOLD ME I SHOULD JUST QUIT MY JOB AND STAY AT HOME WITH HIM IF I DON'T LIKE HOW SHE RUNS THINGS. WTF? That is just a cheap shot. Who says this? 

I obviously told the director, but I asked her not to tell the woman she knew this. She is one of the 'founding' daycare teachers so I know they are tight and I don't want it to be taken out on my son somehow. I hate to change schools because of one stupid woman but really how do I just lie down and take this ridiculousness? 

Unfortunately, it is a parochial school so they are exempt from state licensing, or i would just bail and report them for every mishap i've been documenting over the past year. 

Re: DC Teacher told me I should be a SAHM (sort of double post)

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  • LoCarb said:
    How did the director react?


    This is what I want to know too.

    And at this stage, it's best to say a quick goodbye, Mommy will be back soon, and leave. BUT, if the child is having a hard time, the teacher to be there to quickly distract him.

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  • shannm said:
    While I don't think her delivery was very nice, I do agree that you are making it worse sticking around.

    All of this.

    I went through drop off crying most days with DD1 from 13 months until 2 years 4 months. It's tough, but I knew me hanging around wasn't helping anyone. In fact, it probably gave DD1 false hope that I was going to stay with her for the day, making my actual departure that much more tramatic.

    The teachers and I had a nice routine. I'd walk DD1 into her room, hug and kiss her, tell her sweet things--love you, you'll have a great day playing with friends, etc--then would pass her to the teacher to hold and distract. Sure she cried, but I love her teachers and knew she was in good hands.

  • You may have answered this in your previous post, but how long as your child been with this teacher? He should feel pretty bonded to her if it's been a few months. My daughter went through separation anxiety as well, like all kids I suppose, but it wasn't as much of an issue at daycare because she was already was attached to DCP and nothing changed about our routine. If your kid doesn't feel comforted by the teacher's presence when you leave, then I'd consider looking for a new care provider, regardless of the rudeness factor and that definitely was an unprofessional way to handle the situation. 

    In terms of short & sweet goodbyes, my DCP recommended this a couple months before the anxiety came on: roll your son into daycare in a stroller, rather than carrying in. The physical hand off can be more upsetting than a routine of (1) mom rolls in the stroller and (2) daycare provider unbuckles and takes kid out. It's kind of like teacher welcomes the kid and my daughter understands, "ah, I'm in Mina's care now" because she's taking me out of the stroller, compared to the "Oh no! I'm being taken out of Mommy's arms!" Maybe the teacher has some other ideas she can work with you on? I agree with others than lingering makes it worse and tends to upset the other kids too so maybe there's another way to try a quick, sweet goodbye. 
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  • First of all, her comments are so far out of line I would lose it on her. It is not her place at all to comment on your working choices. Because of her absolute lack of decorum and her "roughness" and lack of apparent affection with the children you mentioned before I would not be comfortable to have her care for my child and would consider another daycare if there is not another room/teacher.

    Second, I disagree that a short-drop off is always best. I think kids are different. For my sons if my DH does drop off it's a quick in and out. If I do drop-offs they got clingy. However, if I stayed just long enough to read 1 book they were totally fine. So we had an agreement, no crying and then they get to have me read one book to them. So maybe you can try to find a way to distract him or engage him in an activity that will have him excited to stay.
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  • shannm said:

    While I don't think her delivery was very nice, I do agree that you are making it worse sticking around.

    I agree. Also since he just transitioned to this room it is going to take some time to adjust. But yes the teacher should help by comforting and distracting him when you leave. I didn't get a chance to reply to your other post, but I wanted to say that at 18 months I would not expect my very active son to be held very much during the day. My son is the same age as yours and at home he only lets me hold him at bedtime or if he's not feeling well.

    It sounds like this teacher has poor communication with parents but I wouldn't switch centers over that. Dd had a teacher that didn't communicate very well with me, she always made me feel like she was blaming me if dd misbehaved (pushing kids, throwing tantrums, etc. normal 2yr old behavior). But dd seemed to like her and was actually very upset when she moved up to the next class. I know that DS will have this same teacher next year. I can deal with it b/c I know my kids are happy and well cared for. There's always going to be one teacher you don't like no matter what school you choose.
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  • What she said is truly offensive.

    A more accurate statement is she needs to work on relating to parents better and quit thinking she knows everything.

    Our school, as a general rule, also emphasizes that quick drop offs are best when you're kid is going through separation anxiety, and there is a lot of literature to support that, but if I insisted on hanging out, I would expect the school to respect my approach as the kid's mom.



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  • I totally agree the grass isn't necessarily going to be greener somewhere else. So I am not moving immediately at least. I plan on timing it so I get there a little before her for a few weeks so I just don't have to see her, and hope it blows over. In his old room it was a pretty quick drop off. I think he is being extra clingy because he is still a little scared. They actually fired one of the teachers last week because there were some problems so one teacher is completely new and the other he has been with for a month. and it might take another week or two before he feels comfortable again. I hang around a little because I've noticed a lot of questionable things...kids sitting in high hairs begging to get out long after they are done eating, sometimes multiple kids screaming and flailing on the ground, one kid trying to get his sippy because he was obviously thirsty...and the teacher just standing around apparently oblivious to it all. Anyway, hopefully that is better with the old teacher gone but they have to earn my trust back and it's not going to happen when they make comments like that to me!
  • While I agree hanging around is not doing anyone any good.  Quick goodbyes are generally better even if there is tears. 

    When looking at all the other things that she has said have happened and then adding her rude comment, I just wouldn't okay with leaving my kid there.

    Not only that, but if it is a parochial daycare and doesn't have to comply with state licensing and isn't monitored by the state, that would be a complete deal breaker for me. 

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  • This woman sounds like a peach, but you're the one who is out of line here.  I've been working with children birth to six for nearly ten years and I can pretty much promise that he stops this behavior as soon as you leave.  I have seen hundreds of kids do this exact same thing.  I'm also familiar with "that mom".  I promise you, you're a "that mom".  If you said this to me "I am the parent and I will stick around for 10 minutes if I so choose" I'd send you home with a pamphlet too.  Yea, it's your kid... but I promise she has MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE with kids than you do.  She knows what she's doing, let her do it.

    Also, it can take up to a month for a child to adjust to a new room.  You need to loosen up a little, and give it some time and realize that yea, it's your kid but it is HER ROOM.  She's responsible for x number of other children and she can't treat yours like it's the only one.  If you want your kid raised in an exacting manner maybe you should stay at home, or get a nanny.

     

  • I read your post yesterday and it really didn't seem like the teacher likes your son.  Honestly, if one of my kid's teacher had grabbed them from me and threw them into a high chair rather than holding then and trying to console them, I would have taken my kids home, taken the day off, and toured other daycares that day.  
    Now it sounds like you and the teacher just hate each other.  As a teacher I can't imagine a mom telling me a classroom is not my room.  I believe you are talking about the main teacher, but even if she's a sub or floater, at that moment she is the teacher and deserves that respect.  You hanging around for 10 minutes does disrupt the class and you are making things worse.  And she's right, if you don't trust others to take care of your kid, SAH.
      The two of you have created a very hostile environment and your LO is suffering because of it.  Its time to change centers.
  • Sillygirl that's an awfully passionate perspective from an Internet stranger. :) and quitting my job that i love and that pays well and that gave me almost 100 fully paid days off to be with my son last year would just be plain stupid and shortsighted. All because of one teacher...is just ridiculous. I am willing to get over a petty cheap shot comment. Perhaps the teacher will end up leaving anyway.
  • And this 10 minutes was two days. We're not talking about every day here.
  • I'm awfully passionate about the subject.  Two days or every day, it is going to be a detriment to her classroom.  I'm sorry you don't want to hear it, and she doesn't sound great either so I'm not defending the teacher's actions, but I call it how I see it and you might just be part of the problem.  Sorry.  Sounds like you've got a great job, I wouldn't quit that either.

     

  • I do appreciate your comments sillygirl! Maybe a bit harsh but being a mom is not for the thin skinned and I always appreciate honesty:) and Internet venting is much more favorable than the alternatives.
    I have faith everyone can be adults in the situation and that it will blow over. I haven't actually said anything to the teacher that I think is even borderline rude and I assume this is not her first parent conflict. I am extremely flexible which is why this is all so absurd. Most moms would have gone straight to the director to get her fired.
  • You need to leave. I posted in your other post too. This isn't a good environment for your child. If you told the director and she still has a job then the whole school isn't what you think it is. For them to employ someone who treats parents and children that way is all you need to know. Please don't bring your kid back there. Demand your money and deposit back and go elsewhere. We've done this for a bad center before and we are now in a fantastic school. It costs more, but it is high quality, safe, and just as importantly, warm and loving.
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  • Ha! Yes, internet venting is wonderful!  I love it.  I do mean everything I said, but you were probably a victim of the lovely bout of pms I'm having.  Particularly because your post reminds me slightly of a situation in my life.  I hope you get things figured out soon... transition is hard.

     

  • Also, while it is probably easier on your son to leave quickly, it is hard as a parent to walk out if you feel uncomfortable about the environment you are leaving your child in! Plus, they need to respect you as a parent and everything about their approach is utterly disrespectful. We are encouraged to come in and stay as long as we want at our center. I do try to get out quickly rather than prolong crying, but nobody would ever ask me to and I'd be ticked off if they did! It's still MY kid!

    Everything you have described is enough to change schools.

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