December 2010 Moms

Am I crazy? How would you do it? talking to a toddler about birth

It's kind of been my goal / mantra of having a child/children to just be honest and not make scientific & bodily things too cutesy and downright wrong. No, that doesn't mean going into gory details, and it does mean twisting truth in order to simplify, but we don't want to outright lie for the sake of "protecting" our children from something. For example, when DS grabs his junk and is talking about it I say "that is your penis." not "wee wee" or whatever else.

So, DS and I have been talking a lot about the baby who's going to be joining the family any day now. DS has gotten more and more into this concept and is very excited. He is sweet and he "hugs" the baby or kisses it sometimes spontaneously (kissing my belly). We've told DS that mommy and daddy will be going to the hospital to get the baby out of mommy's belly - DS really needs warning about stuff like this because it will mean a babysitter or hopefully FIL watching him overnight, and he does so much better not being surprised by stuff like that. I think he instinctively knows it will hurt me (or he's overheard bits and pieces of conversations about being in labor) because he's said something like, "mama be ok? don't want baby to hurt mommy!" And I've been able to answer this by admitting the pain but toning it down and comparing it to his being constipated trying to push his poop out--that it does hurt somewhat, and that I have to push as well to get the baby out. I do want to warn him about the pain in case for some reason I'm laboring at home while he's here and he has to see me in pain, just so he doesn't get too scared/worried. 

In this process of talking to DS, I've really wanted to describe more about how the baby comes out. So, I showed DS a cross-sectional illustration/cartoon of a baby inside a mother. He now understands that the head is down and says "the baby is upside down in there!" Today I found more images of the head coming out so he can understand how the baby comes out. I think he originally thought it would come out through my belly button or something! They are ALL drawings (albeit scientific ones) so it's not too gory or whatever! 

Is this too much for a toddler, or do you think it's ok? I'm talking about things like this: 
and this

What would / did you do with your toddler? 

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Re: Am I crazy? How would you do it? talking to a toddler about birth

  • im the same way about using correct anatomy words, etc.   i think the pictures you show might depend on each individual child.  and what they ask.
    so, if oliver specifically asked me where the baby will "exit" me :)  i would probably tell him. and i think these pictures are fine.  however, i dont think id offer up the info or pictures unless he specifically asked me where the baby gets out of my belly.  i dont think it would be detrimental in any way (not that i can think of), but i just like to follow his lead on how much info he needs/wants.
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  • that sounds like what I'm doing. He asked for the explanation & pictures! 

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  • ha!  curious little guy. :)
  • DS knows that I went to the hospital for the doctor to take DD out of my belly & that the same was true for him.

     I think those pics are ok, but I would get nervous, *personally* if he asked WHERE the baby was coming out of. We use "penis" with DS, but he doesn't know "vagina" yet. That is where my comfort level is at right now.

    As far as talking about you being in pain. I'd say it's probably going to hurt a little, but the doctors will make sure mommy is ok & the doctors will take care of me.


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  • bosha711 said:
    DS knows that I went to the hospital for the doctor to take DD out of my belly & that the same was true for him.

     I think those pics are ok, but I would get nervous, *personally* if he asked WHERE the baby was coming out of. We use "penis" with DS, but he doesn't know "vagina" yet. That is where my comfort level is at right now.

    As far as talking about you being in pain. I'd say it's probably going to hurt a little, but the doctors will make sure mommy is ok & the doctors will take care of me.


    has ds asked you anything about your anatomy yet?  oliver said "o has a penis, daddy has a penis, d has a  penis, mommy has a penis?"...and we told him, "no, mommy does not have a penis". then he asked "oh, what does mommy have?"  so, now he knows vagina.  and so it goes........
  • I think if he's asking for pictures then the ones you have are a good representation.  We also use correct words when discussing anatomy although A hasn't expressed much interest in discerning the difference between boys and girls.

     Personally though and this may be UO or not....I would try and focus on some of the more long term things he will experience rather than the day or two you'll be in hospital/in labor (unless you plan on him to witness the birth then he should be prepared).  I only say this because if you focus too much on vaginal deliveries then what if you have a c-section?  ....all of your work in prepping him would have left out a huge chunk of info for him since recovery from a c-section is a bit different than vaginal.  I think frank discussions and exploration of the new baby gear stuff he'll see will help him adjust once the baby's in his home turf such as breastfeeding/pumping, diaper changing, having to take turns/be patient since there will be times you'll be busy with the baby and your older LO will have a demand or two at the exact same time, etc.  Definitely answer his questions.  A was a lot younger so he didn't have as many questions and such when J was due to be born.  We did talk a lot about the people who would potentially be watching him though for when I did go to the hospital. (My sis, my mom, and our babysitter depending on when and who was available.) that way they'd all be fresh in his memory.  It worked out well since I ended up going in in the middle of the night after he'd gone to bed, contractions started around midnight so we had no idea it'd be that night, but when he woke up to my sister being there he did ok because she reminded him that we had gone to the hospital to have the baby and she'd take him there to see us all when it was time.  We tried to keep the focus when we talked on how it would impact him rather than what would happen to me since kids in general tend to be more ego-centric, and we use this approach still when we talk about going to the doctors/dentists etc for either us parents, or J since A is usuallly along for the ride even though it isn't always him in the hotseat.

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  • I think that's great! It's not too graphic, just very factual. J knows he has a penis, and mommy has a vagina because mommy is a girl. He had asked about the baby coming out several times, and about how it got in there.

    I actually got a book for kids that is awesome about explaining things scientifically without saying too much. (https://www.amazon.com/Hello-Baby-Lizzy-Rockwell/dp/0517800748/ref=cm_lmf_tit_5)

    We also had a garden this summer so I equated it to that, but didn't make it cutesy. I think the garden and seeds and things growing and needing to be ripe before they're ready has really helped him understand better without knowing the whole story yet. lol

    If he asks more questions about how the baby will come out I'll probably show him those pictures you linked!
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  • jnicolen1 said:
    bosha711 said:
    DS knows that I went to the hospital for the doctor to take DD out of my belly & that the same was true for him.

     I think those pics are ok, but I would get nervous, *personally* if he asked WHERE the baby was coming out of. We use "penis" with DS, but he doesn't know "vagina" yet. That is where my comfort level is at right now.

    As far as talking about you being in pain. I'd say it's probably going to hurt a little, but the doctors will make sure mommy is ok & the doctors will take care of me.


    has ds asked you anything about your anatomy yet?  oliver said "o has a penis, daddy has a penis, d has a  penis, mommy has a penis?"...and we told him, "no, mommy does not have a penis". then he asked "oh, what does mommy have?"  so, now he knows vagina.  and so it goes........
    We have had a similar conversation a few times, but when he asks if I have a penis, I just say no, only boys have them & I stop there. Then recently in a conversation about going potty, he asked if pee pee came out my butt & I told him no, it comes out another hole, and again, just stopped there.

    I am good for describing things without giving the actual word, nor giving a made up word. Like: "Mommy, what's that?"
    "That's where your pee pee comes out of".

    That's what I used to say before MH taught him the actual terms.

    Or in your case, I might say, "the baby comes out from between my legs, rather than give the specific part names. Again, that is all based on my own comfort level for what I feel is appropriate for him to know at his age & maturity level.

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  • Wow.  My kid so did not care at all.  He just went on about his normal routine around my big belly.  My sister picked him up from daycare and he spent two nights with them.  She sent me pictures of him playing with his cousin.  Then he came home, kissed the new baby, and went about playing around the baby.  :)  He knows he has a penis and that mommy has boobs, but that's about it.  We walk around naked all the time too, but he's never questioned it.  I think I have a "go with the flow" kind of kid.  Thank goodness.  Those pictures seem perfectly fine to me if he's asking questions.  We just didn't mention any of it because he didn't seem to care. 

     

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  • I think you're doing great! Nora hasn't asked too many specifics yet, and seems satisfied with her current level of understanding, but if she wants more detail at any point, I think I'd take a similar approach.

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  • bosha711 said:
    jnicolen1 said:
    bosha711 said:
    DS knows that I went to the hospital for the doctor to take DD out of my belly & that the same was true for him.

     I think those pics are ok, but I would get nervous, *personally* if he asked WHERE the baby was coming out of. We use "penis" with DS, but he doesn't know "vagina" yet. That is where my comfort level is at right now.

    As far as talking about you being in pain. I'd say it's probably going to hurt a little, but the doctors will make sure mommy is ok & the doctors will take care of me.


    has ds asked you anything about your anatomy yet?  oliver said "o has a penis, daddy has a penis, d has a  penis, mommy has a penis?"...and we told him, "no, mommy does not have a penis". then he asked "oh, what does mommy have?"  so, now he knows vagina.  and so it goes........
    We have had a similar conversation a few times, but when he asks if I have a penis, I just say no, only boys have them & I stop there. Then recently in a conversation about going potty, he asked if pee pee came out my butt & I told him no, it comes out another hole, and again, just stopped there.

    I am good for describing things without giving the actual word, nor giving a made up word. Like: "Mommy, what's that?"
    "That's where your pee pee comes out of".

    That's what I used to say before MH taught him the actual terms.

    Or in your case, I might say, "the baby comes out from between my legs, rather than give the specific part names. Again, that is all based on my own comfort level for what I feel is appropriate for him to know at his age & maturity level.
    I'm fine with teaching DS the word vagina but I also haven't done it yet because it hasn't been necessary, even for explaining this stuff. I also said the baby comes out between my legs and just kind of pointed. And I did say that even though this is different, it is kind of similar to pushing poopy out. If/when he needs more information I'll give it to him but he hasn't yet asked about mommy having a penis or anything like that. 

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  • enjoylife said:
    I think if he's asking for pictures then the ones you have are a good representation.  We also use correct words when discussing anatomy although A hasn't expressed much interest in discerning the difference between boys and girls.

     Personally though and this may be UO or not....I would try and focus on some of the more long term things he will experience rather than the day or two you'll be in hospital/in labor (unless you plan on him to witness the birth then he should be prepared).  I only say this because if you focus too much on vaginal deliveries then what if you have a c-section?  ....all of your work in prepping him would have left out a huge chunk of info for him since recovery from a c-section is a bit different than vaginal.  I think frank discussions and exploration of the new baby gear stuff he'll see will help him adjust once the baby's in his home turf such as breastfeeding/pumping, diaper changing, having to take turns/be patient since there will be times you'll be busy with the baby and your older LO will have a demand or two at the exact same time, etc.  Definitely answer his questions.  A was a lot younger so he didn't have as many questions and such when J was due to be born.  We did talk a lot about the people who would potentially be watching him though for when I did go to the hospital. (My sis, my mom, and our babysitter depending on when and who was available.) that way they'd all be fresh in his memory.  It worked out well since I ended up going in in the middle of the night after he'd gone to bed, contractions started around midnight so we had no idea it'd be that night, but when he woke up to my sister being there he did ok because she reminded him that we had gone to the hospital to have the baby and she'd take him there to see us all when it was time.  We tried to keep the focus when we talked on how it would impact him rather than what would happen to me since kids in general tend to be more ego-centric, and we use this approach still when we talk about going to the doctors/dentists etc for either us parents, or J since A is usuallly along for the ride even though it isn't always him in the hotseat.

    This is all great advice. When I told DS about how the baby comes out I did think about the c-section possibility, but I figured vaginal is much more likely in my case so I'd just go with that and if I get a c-section we can explain it then (because we'll need to explain the recovery period to him!!) Overall the conversations have been focused on him rather than me but he is so curious about the baby and where it is right now (in me) that I've spent time on that as well.

    We have definitely done some previewing of what DS is in for after the baby comes and read lots of library books on it that also help with previewing. To our pleasant surprise he even requests reading these books over his train/truck favorites. He's very curious. I've told him that I'll be feeding the baby a LOT, so I'll be less available. We told DS he needs to be a big boy overnight and with naps because we can't drop everything and go to him every second (in different words of course.) He's threatening to drop his nap, so we also practice quiet time during the nap with toys/books and he is supposed to be on his own. We've talked about other things as well (baby crying a lot, etc.) But we could do even more. As I said, DS does a lot better when he knows what to expect! 

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  • That's great he is so inquisitive. I had another thought and one I plan on doing if or when we have a third because my boys will be older and I'm sure will have questions and such....
    Have you done your hospital tour already? If you have time this weekend (you're due this month right?) I'm on mobile now.... I would maybe take a quick tour and take a few pictures. Like the front of the hospital, an empty couplet care or labor room, even the cafeteria or waiting lobby too. Possibly an IV pump or the plastic baby bed. And either print or show him the photos the next couple weeks... That way when you go to the "hospital" in his mind he can start to picture you there and stuff and won't be so intimidated or scared by the rooms or equipment and stuff when he comes to see you ....
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  • This is a really cool interactive thing that shows a baby growing then getting birthed - all with drawing/animation.
    https://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/you/the-exhibit/your-beginning/make-room-for-baby/interactive/

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  • enjoylife said:
    That's great he is so inquisitive. I had another thought and one I plan on doing if or when wehave a third because my boys will be older and I'm sure will have questions and such....Have you done your hospital tour already? If you have time this weekend (you're due thismonth right?) I'm on mobile now.... I would maybe take a quick tour and take a few pictures.Like the front of the hospital, an empty couplet care or labor room, even the cafeteria orwaiting lobby too. Possibly an IV pump or the plastic baby bed. And either print or show himthe photos the next couple weeks... That way when you go to the "hospital" in his mind hecan start to picture you there and stuff and won't be so intimidated or scared by the rooms orequipment and stuff when he comes to see you ....
    We are so lucky, because they let children on the tours. We did already do ours. It really helped DS. I think it was around then, a bit over a month ago, when he flipped a switch and started asking lots of questions and getting really interested. 

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  • This is a really cool interactive thing that shows a baby growing then getting birthed - all with drawing/animation. https://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/you/the-exhibit/your-beginning/make-room-for-baby/interactive/
    actually that's what I showed to him first because I knew of it, and that sparked more interest. 

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