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"Find the money"

I just saw this in a post below and I'm really curious if people who say this (I've seen it a lot) have actually had to struggle with money. With SS we paid over 10000 in legal fees. We had to borrow the money from his step dad. There was no other way to get the money. If something happend tomorrow we would be SOL and have no money to fight. I'm not being snarky I'm really just wondering what you do if you don't have a way? Saying make a way is too easy.
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Re: "Find the money"

  • Honestly you are right that I have never had to suddenly come up with huge amounts of money overnight. I can say that I would do everything I could to find a way to get enough to get custody of my child living on a street. My post here would be looking for suggestions instead of complaining that my child was living without electricity and water. And I was not flaming th OP and now it is turning into that so for that I am sorry. There has to be a way to come up with lawyer fees or at least a retainer or getting an emergency hearing without one. I do feel horrible for the people in these situations.
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
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  • We have an emergency fund, but if we got into a $20-30k court battle we would have to make some serious changes. 

    We have talked about what we would do if we had to-

    - We could cut all unnecessary expenses. Cable, internet, smart phones, extra curriculars would all go.
    - We could get sell one or both cars (and then use public transportation).
    - We could take out a second mortgage or home equity line of credit. If we had to sell the house, we would.
    - I could get one or two part time jobs. DH could get a part time job (alongside his ft job). 

    To start out with an attorney, you might have to pay a decent-sized initial retainer. But you have time to come up with the rest. 



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  • I've struggled with money, "barely keeping utilities on" struggled.  We were in a car accident and DH didn't have health insurance because we couldn't afford it.  He was then out of work for a while right afterwards because he's in home renovation and the jobs kind of dwindled to nothing for a few months.  Then, there was a mistake in the muscle relaxer I was prescribed for my injuries and it counteracted my birth control and I ended up pregnant.  We truly just started selling off our stuff - furniture, guns, hobby stuff, some of our clothes, jewelry, etc.  We also cut back on our expenses and I got a part time job on top of my paid doctoral fellowship position.  If something happened and we needed a larger chunk of cash, we'd sell the car that is paid off. 

    If it was for the well-being of DD or SS, you bet I'd do or sell whatever it took to get the money.
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  • Hey guys just a suggestion. I used to live pay check to pay check with my XH and hated it. I felt like the keeper of the money. Once we divorced I vowed to clean things up and never go back and I haven't. I read some good suggestions about selling things and taking extra jobs. I'd like to add that if you haven't ever heard of Dave Ramsey you might look into it. He was a website daveramsey.com, a book, and a free pod cast if you have podcast capabilities on your smart phone or tablet. Her has a step by step program to help people get out of debt and save up an emergency fund. I think for people in our boat with sk and the potential for court dealings the emergency fund is super important. However we can't get an emergency fund if we aren't in control of our money. I'd rather tell my money where to go than have it dictated for me. Check it out!
  • Well you either find the money or you live with regret for decades.

    I asked my dad about this when we were thinking about going to court and he said children are always more important than money. You make money, you lose money, you find money, you win money. It's just a thing. This child only gets one life.

    We had the money to spend and yes we spent thousands on thousands on THOUSANDS and essentially lost. But we can tell SS we fought our asses off and it didn't go our way. We have no regrets.

    If it were my child I would be picking up a third job, selling my car and taking the bus or doing anything I had to to pay for an attorney over a custody fight. I would find the money.
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  • Hey guys just a suggestion. I used to live pay check to pay check with my XH and hated it. I felt like the keeper of the money. Once we divorced I vowed to clean things up and never go back and I haven't. I read some good suggestions about selling things and taking extra jobs. I'd like to add that if you haven't ever heard of Dave Ramsey you might look into it. He was a website daveramsey.com, a book, and a free pod cast if you have podcast capabilities on your smart phone or tablet. Her has a step by step program to help people get out of debt and save up an emergency fund. I think for people in our boat with sk and the potential for court dealings the emergency fund is super important. However we can't get an emergency fund if we aren't in control of our money. I'd rather tell my money where to go than have it dictated for me. Check it out!

    Just because someone is currently struggling with money doesn't mean that they are in debt. I was young and I'm college and totally not at a lifestage to handle everything I took on (my choice, no regrets, but I hope my kids don't do things the same way), and DH was almost completely out of debt from his prior divorce. We went INTO debt to be able to pay for this stuff. And now we are almost completely out of debt again (including ahead of schedule on the loan we took out earlier this year for court), sans student loans, which I have not taken out since going back to school, just loans from being in school before. We had no debt besides student loans when all this happened, other than two defaulted site credit cards his XW had opened up, when all this happened.

    But we were still living paycheck to paycheck and barely making it. But we busted our asses to get to the level we are at now. It's no new story in a county that has over 12% unemployment right now (as of July, and it hasn't been much better since about 2007). We only moved last year, but this county still has a 10% unemployment rate. And they count the people who go door to door selling baked good as self-employed, and you actually see a lot of people doing that in the central areas of town. A two income family here that makes more than $30k a year is rolling in the dough, so to speak.

    That said, I am in no way blaming the economy in our situation. Granted, we both could have done better elsewhere. But we put ourselves in the situation we started in and then made the right choice that put us even further "down the ladder." But we worked out butts off to get to a secure place. And while Dave Ramsey' s plan is working for us now, sometimes you have to be in a better position to even think about paying of debt or building an emergency fund. Not everybody started out in that position. And some people didn't have a choice about where they started, only where they ended up.

    Sorry for the novels here. I feel like I'm hijacking the thread. But this is obviously a very sensitive subject for me. To look at us, you could never have told that we had "money troubles" but I hate when people are just like "you can fix that." You can work your butt of everyday life we have and still be struggling. And there are so many people out there struggling so much more than I have ever experienced. And believe it or not, a lot them are working their butts off.
  • We have struggled to keep our heads above water for all of our married lives. With 2 kids that we have 50/50 (but most of the time more) and DH still having to pay BM a stupid amount of child support it has been hard. But when BM up and left the state we were in a situation that we had to do something. We had to hire 2 different lawyers, one in each state, which means 2 retainer fees and 2 lawyer payments. Our family was able to help a little bit but not much. We sold DH's truck and used bus transportation, we literally lived on ramen noodles and only bought "real food" for the kids. We down graded phones, had no Internet, sold our laptops, sold anything that would make us even $5, both DH and I got 2nd part time jobs. 4 years later we are still in the process of that same court battle although we are finally at trial and it hopefully will be over in 2 weeks. We are still paying for one lawyer and paying off the other. We are financially ruined there is nothing but it is worth it to know the kids are safe and hopefully soon things will be even better for them. We would love to be able to follow Dave Ramsey and get a emergency fund going but at this point I still feel lucky of we have enough toilet paper in the house.
  • We have spent tens of thousands in legal fees for the kids , it can be done, it isn't easy but not impossible.
  • "Finding it" would have never happened for me before Dh. Sad, but true. When I went through my divorce, I lost my mobile home (I owned it, but paid lot rent), most of our belongings, and there was nothing to sell.I guess I could have sold my vehicle, but 3 kids on public transport and one being autistic and some of his appts in other towns... yeah, not a good idea. My family pretty much said "your mess, you deal with it". That is why my divorce took so long. I was working for a little over min wage and trying to go to school part time because I knew in the end, the PITA now would pay off later. So I worked a 3rd shift security job that I got 36 hours in 3 nights a week and I could do homework at work. I lucked out there with that.

    Luckily Ex had no money at all. He was doing what he did now and lived with mama and worked freelance. He spent what he had on new tech that he "needed". *shrugs*

    Also what saves us is, Ex will get a stick up his butt because of his parents, but he is to lazy to even do the research himself or go talk to the local legal aid. I will. I have no problems going down there to find out how to file motions. I have also worked my butt off making sure things (visitation) and what not is documented and sealing holes in our CO. I wish I would have put some more in there, but that is ok. If we needed a lawyer now, we would be able to get one and I know DH would fight for "his boys". We know we can pull loans on the cars and house. If needed FIL would help. I would even go back to working a 3rd shift and pray that C did not have issues with it again.
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  • "find the money" can mean several things.  I was lucky enough to find it thru my father, who I am paying back.  I am also starting a legal fund. I may have a great job, but by no means does it pay for everything, and I will not have much extra to spend loosely.  Money will be tight in my household. I also have an investment fund that will mostly go to my retirement, but if I have to pull some for legal reasons, I can.  If I had to work a night job...I would.  I'd find a way.

     

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  • If the child is in danger, then by all means, "find the money".  But, if the child is not in danger, and you just believe that you can provide a better home for him/her, and by doing so, selling everything you have, living paycheck to paycheck, etc and then the child, and the rest of the family going without if/when you win custody, is that really in the best interest of everyone involved??
  • docco11 said:

    If the child is in danger, then by all means, "find the money".  But, if the child is not in danger, and you just believe that you can provide a better home for him/her, and by doing so, selling everything you have, living paycheck to paycheck, etc and then the child, and the rest of the family going without if/when you win custody, is that really in the best interest of everyone involved??

    I think that's what this thread was aimed at. Acting on behalf of a child in danger. Not just a custody battle.
  • docco11 said:

    If the child is in danger, then by all means, "find the money".  But, if the child is not in danger, and you just believe that you can provide a better home for him/her, and by doing so, selling everything you have, living paycheck to paycheck, etc and then the child, and the rest of the family going without if/when you win custody, is that really in the best interest of everyone involved??

    I don't think anyone is saying that in a normal situation that anyone should go to the poor house fighting for custody. But when people post that they can't afford to fight for their kid, when they are in a shitty situation, it sucks. You do what you have to do. If you aren't being allowed to see your child, if someone is in clear violation of a CO, if there are safety issues, etc you need to fight for your child.
  • docco11 said:

    If the child is in danger, then by all means, "find the money".  But, if the child is not in danger, and you just believe that you can provide a better home for him/her, and by doing so, selling everything you have, living paycheck to paycheck, etc and then the child, and the rest of the family going without if/when you win custody, is that really in the best interest of everyone involved??

    It he post that started this one was about a kid living without electricity or running water. I totally agree with you on that things have to be really bad at the other house for you to work two jobs and sell your possessions but if the things are that bad then you try to find a way. And a few of the above proved that there are ways.
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • I cashed in my 401k when I was in a "find the money" situation. It was a last resort because of all the penalties and fees. I don't regret it because it had to be done, but it was terrible.

    I recognize that there are people who dont have the resources I do- I was lucky to have that 401k to fall back on. Many people don't.

    I like to think that if I was in the situation of the other poster, I would be able to find the money no matter what, but I think some people just don't have it. I think the number of people who really just can't find it though is v low.
  • I was "lucky" enough that I received part of my inheritance from my grandmother right before I needed to get a lawyer. If DH and I had to come up with a large sum of money quickly the only options we would have are: 1. Borrow from my parents - I know this isn't an option for everyone. I am lucky enough that my parents are not hurting financially and they have the mindset that "money is just money, it doesn't matter". They would help us out in a heartbeat. 2. Take out a personal/payday loan. We've had to do this before, for a very small amount, and the interest is ridiculous! But in the case of a child in danger it would be totally worth it. Again, this might not be an option for everyone. Some people might not meet the income requirements, or have too much debt in the first place. 3. Cash out my 401K. Again, not everyone has a 401K to be able to do this.

    To the OP from the other thread, I wish you all the luck possible.

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