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What we have here is a failure to communicate...

FTM here with my first nanny. She's in-home and watches between 2-4 other kids depending on what day it is. I got GREAT references for her, including one from a mom who is also an attorney for child protective services (or so I've been told) and has had 3 of her LOs with her over the past 5 years or so. 

However. I'm having a ridiculous time communicating with my nanny! I have never been able to get a straight answer about what DS's schedule is even though she claims it's a rigid one. When either DH or I ask how DS's day was, we get sarcastic responses ("He's a baby." "He talked on the phone to his girlfriend all day."). He came home once with a poop that seared his little bottom and when I asked her about it, she was very defensive and even claimed that it was my fault, b/c I dropped him off with a poopy diaper (he was clean when we left the house). Even after we spoke about it, she was still very offended that I'd asked b/c she thought I was accusing her of leaving him in a poopy diaper. I explained that it was something that any responsible parent would ask about, but...it didn't seem to sink in. Today, my husband noticed a tear on his cheek (not actively crying) and asked, "Oh, he has a tear. Did he have a bad day?" Her response was, "Why don't you ask him?" He's 10 mos old. She backtracked quickly, but still seemed offended that my DH even asked. 

She also acts like she never has enough supplies, she's constantly criticizing my mothering, and whenever we talk about DS (about little stuff), it's as if she's watching a completely different kid - which is part of her opening for how she assumes I'm a bad mother. Her assumptions about me are just these endless stereotypical assumptions... We fought constantly about feeding DS for about 4 months (she was chronically overfeeding him breastmilk which I couldn't produce enough of to meet her "demand"), until I just gave her exactly what I wanted her to feed him with notes indicating what time to feed him what. I still don't trust that she feeds him what I bring her or sticks to the amount, but it's less critical now. 

The bottomline is that I don't think she's harming DS. I mostly worry about whether he gets a lot of attention and I worry that she leaves him in his carseat too long; but he's a very happy, complacent, self-soothing dream of a little man. If he was more demanding, I would worry that she's traumatizing him, but he's a cool cucumber. Do I have a sit-down with her to try and iron out these communication issues? Or is this stuff that's so out-of-bounds that you all would dropkick her? I've talked to my doctor about some of the concerning things and she didn't think anything was too alarming, so I'm kind of inclined to schedule a chat. But there's a lot of nannies in the ocean, too, so maybe we should just find a better fit.

Re: What we have here is a failure to communicate...

  • I would not be comfortable working with a DCP who would not communicate openly with me.  Not at all.
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  • She'd be fired immediately. You're asking reasonable questions, and her attitude is completely inappropriate. She works for you, there's absolutely no way she should be criticizing your parenting, refusing to answer your questions, or mocking you, Dropkick, hard.
  • Yeah, weird. I'm all for sarcasm/joking sometimes but only once a relationship has been established & everyone knows everyone's sense of humor, and it is not a replacement for actual information- like a joke is made, and then the real info is given, not completely omitted or ignored. Before you even got to the other stuff I was already disliking the communication and throw in the other parts and it seems like a no brainer to me (as an outsider of course ;) ). She reminds me of stories you hear about mothers/mother in laws who do whatever they want to do even when asked to do things differently by the parents. Only she's not even family and she's getting paid. I'd look elsewhere. GL!


  • I really don't know what the point of talking to her would be.  It is not a lack of communication, she is just unprofessional.  You are not asking abnormal or demanding questions and a decent caregiver would have no problem answering them in a respectful and helpful way.  I say find a new DCP.
  • Yeah, I would find new child care.  I don't care how highly she came recommended, it's clearly not working for you and you should be 100% comfortable with whoever is watching your child.
  • Time for a new provider.  And this is "nit picky", but she's  your DCP - daycare provider.  Not nanny. When you say nanny, I thought she was coming to your home. 
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  • Leave. You don't have one reason you don't like her, you have a laundry list of reasons you don't like her. You're putting the life of your child in her hands - if you can't trust her implicitly, it's your job to find someone you can. 
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  • Not a chance I would stay with this woman.  And agree, she's not a nanny.  She's an in-home DCP, and a sucky one at that. 
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  • Another vote for drop-kicking! I kind of wish you could go back in time and drop-kick her for over feeding him your precious breastmilk! (I hate pumping so waste makes me mad, also over feeding little babies with little tummies)
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  • Yeah, I'd be outta there. Those are all completely reasonable questions that she should be VERY used to answering if she's been watching kids for any length of time. I think I've asked dd's care giver all of those questions, even about a poopy diaper possibly left on too long, and they always answer directly and professionally. That sarcastic crap is totally unprofessional. :/
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  • Another vote to move on immediately. This is not ok behavior towards you and I don't know how you could trust that she's treating your LO any better.
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  • Vote to drop kick.
    My MIL overfed my EBF DD once. She gave two bottles in 1 feeding. She spit up everywhere and had a bad tummy ache. There was reason why I told her not to do it because I know my DD and its what I could produce. Her approach seems off.
    Also sounds like an unlicensed daycare calling herself a nanny.
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  • For comparison, I use a daycare center and when DD was in the infant room her teachers would respond to my inquiry about her day with details on how she ate, napped and what her general mood was.  And if anything interesting happened that day they would share that with me as well.

     For example: "DD was following Noah around all day.  It was really cute.  They were laughing together.  Looks like they are becoming good friends!" or "DD was more clingy than normal today.  I noticed her chewing and think she may be teething.  We took her temperature and it was normal."

  • Yep. Agree with all pp. Run. Fast. And pass the word.
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  • GreenMonkey1GreenMonkey1 member
    edited September 2013
    Personally, I would find a new DCP.  Like others, I question whether this individual is billing herself out as a "nanny" to avoid having to get a license.  She sounds more like an in home daycare provider.  I do not know in what state you live, but generally you can look up a provider's license online.  You can call the county child welfare office to get help finding that information.

    References are great, but did you speak with anyone who has his/her kids there?  Paper references are easily hand created.  Maybe I'm cynical, but I generally do not trust references from strangers unless I can talk to the stranger directly (and then I still take them with a grain of salt).  Plus, anyone who I pay to watch my child better not be rude to me/my husband.  Very unprofessional and uncool.

    We switched DS from one Center to another because we were not pleased with the original place and it's made a huge difference for our son.  No shame in chalking up the first "nanny" as an experience and moving your kiddo.  Trust your gut. 
  • Wow. This is unacceptable. I haven't read the other posts but she would be gone in a heartbeat. How could you let such a person take care of your baby? If she feels comfortable enough to talk down to you like that - you who are her employer! - what liberties do you think she's taking with your son who had no voice? Fire her and inform the other parents in this nanny share as to why. If anyone asks for your reference as to this nanny, you owe it to all potential babies in her care to tell them the truth. This is disturbing.
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  • aeh72aeh72 member
    edited September 2013

    Drop kick.

    I only had to get to this line of your post before thinking, "oh, hell no":  "When either DH or I ask how DS's day was, we get sarcastic responses ("He's a baby." "He talked on the phone to his girlfriend all day.")."

    Seriously though - having good, open communication with the person who cares for your child is vital.  This doesn't sound like a miscommunicaton issue. She has a terrible attitude and quite frankly, doesn't even really sound like she likes children.  I would never be able to put up with someone like her and I definitely would not want my child to have to spend his days with her.

    I know finding daycare is tough, but there are good ones - great ones - out there who know how to properly care for children, who love children, and who totally understand how hard it is for parents to leave their children all day with, in essence, strangers.  The good ones want to make it as easy and comfortable for you as possible.  Look around and I'm sure you'll find a better place for your son.

    Edited because I meant to comment on this:  He came home once with a poop that seared his little bottom and when I asked her about it, she was very defensive and even claimed that it was my fault, b/c I dropped him off with a poopy diaper (he was clean when we left the house).

    Um, so, by her excuse she basically saying she didn't check - or change - his diaper at any point when he was in her care, or that she did and just left the poop in there? She's not even smart enough to know her bullsh*t answer makes her look even worse.

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  • Estwd2 said:
    I vote for dropkicking. She argues with you, questions your parenting, and refuses to answer simple questions. I'm actually shocked you've stayed with her this long.
    This. Your situation is completely unacceptable. 
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  • I can't think of a single reason to keep her employed. None at all. Surely you can find someone who actually gives a rat's ass to watch your child.
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  • Another vote for find a new DCP.
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  • When she speaks to you like that it is disrespectful. You are paying her for a service and not just any service but looking after your child. I would not want such a disrespectful person around my child. I would have found other arrangements by now.
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  • aglenn said:
    I would not be comfortable working with a DCP who would not communicate openly with me.  Not at all.

    Agreed. I am also a vote for pulling your child from her care immediately. She is being completely unprofessional wi you, and I'd hate to think she extends that attitude to your son. Now, my first baby-sitter before sending Jke to daycare said things like that to me, but she's one of my best friends (knew her before Jake was born) and we have that kind of relationship for me to know she was just beingbsilly. She always followed up with an earnest response. Jake's current daycare has always been very upfront regarding his schedule and answering any questions. One time, the teacher in the room actually stayed after closing time (we showed up on time to pick him up, but got to talking) and never rushed me out or anything; we had her full attention and she made sure we were satisfied with the information. Trust is the most important thing between a parent and anyone caring dor her child. That trust cannot exist without open and honest (and PROFESSIONAL) communication.
     
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  • Go with your gut and leave. No straight answer, critiquing your mothering not telling you about his schedule.... Not good. Good references and all, she does not seem like the right care giver for your child.
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  • Lurker here... When DD was in the infant room (she's 7 now), the only thing they didn't share is if she hit a milestone like walking because they wanted ME to see it "first." Other than THAT, I knew way more about her day than I ever thought possible. They even gave me tips on how to keep her reflux under control and calmed my first time mommy angst. Seriously, find a new provider.
  • Adding to the echo chamber and voting GONE! I get better from my DC center (actually had the same problem with a bad wiping job on Friday (first time ever) and his teacher was apologetic and upset that it'd been missed).
  • The unanimity is overwhelming. I've started looking. I just have to figure out interim arrangements until we're able to line up someone/thing new.

    Thanks for the feedback. I feel like an idiot for not thinking things could be better.
  • Just curious - is it acceptable to terminate by email or is a phone call mandatory?
  • Normally I would say a phone call but on this case I think email is fine. Although you could be the bigger person and call.
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  • For comparison, I use a daycare center and when DD was in the infant room her teachers would respond to my inquiry about her day with details on how she ate, napped and what her general mood was.  And if anything interesting happened that day they would share that with me as well.

     For example: "DD was following Noah around all day.  It was really cute.  They were laughing together.  Looks like they are becoming good friends!" or "DD was more clingy than normal today.  I noticed her chewing and think she may be teething.  We took her temperature and it was normal."

    This is exactly what our center does.  I get daily notes and we talk every single day.  We also get a weekly summary e-mail. Nothing is ever condescending or questioning. I would find a new provider right away.  

     

  • I wouldn't even give her the satisfaction of trying to respond in person or have a smartass rebutile.  I'd send her the "get lost" email and cut your losses.

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