September 2012 Moms

I'm dumb, please explain...

PenelopePondPenelopePond member
edited September 2013 in September 2012 Moms
What the problem with this is. (Sorry I thought I could make it clicky on iPad now but I guess not)

Title of the article is "Michelle Obama Tells You What To Drink."  Inside the article, it talks about how she is encouraging people to drink more water as a part of her "Let's Move!" campaign. 

Admittedly I do not know much about her entire campaign. I do not understand how this is a problem, though. My parents, teachers, doctors, books I've read, people at the gym...they've all shared the benefits of drinking water. What's the problem with Michelle Obama doing it?  My MIL shared this on her Facebook, clearly outraged. The comments below the article are disgusting.   Help me understand please. 
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Re: I'm dumb, please explain...

  • It's hard for me to take this article as a credible source when it includes the sentence, “You’re food tastes like vomit!”

    I'm a little anal about grammar. I just reviewed about 75 resumes and wanted to bang my head against a wall, so maybe I'm a little oversensitive. But I digress....

    Personally, I think people get defensive when they're called out on their shit. Same thing happened when they wanted to ban 20 oz sodas in NYC. People are all "Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot drink?!" Civil liberties, free country, blah, blah, blah.
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  • MomtobeNJ said:
    It's hard for me to take this article as a credible source when it includes the sentence, “You’re food tastes like vomit!”

    I'm a little anal about grammar. I just reviewed about 75 resumes and wanted to bang my head against a wall, so maybe I'm a little oversensitive. But I digress....

    Personally, I think people get defensive when they're called out on their shit. Same thing happened when they wanted to ban 20 oz sodas in NYC. People are all "Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot drink?!" Civil liberties, free country, blah, blah, blah.
    This exactly.  People don't want to be told what they can and can't do because we live in a free country.....  I get the thought process, but I also think people are way too extreme on their feelings when it comes to anything related to the Obama's.  But that is just my personal opinion.
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  • While I agree people don't like being told what to do, she isn't enforcing this in anyway. Is she? I really think this is more of an anti Obama everything thing (at least with MIL and most of the people who commented on the article). I just wasn't sure if there was more, something evil, that I was missing ;)
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  • Not enforcing, just encouraging.

    And I agree with @willy_gert - there are people who will find fault in EVERYTHING and anything she says, regardless of the content or method. 
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  • There is a big difference in outlawing sugary drinks above 20oz and encouraging more water. Not on the same page. And your darn right. Don't tell me I can't have a 24oz soda. Maybe I worked my butt off at the gym and would rather not have artificial crap.

    I didn't read the article or comments so I have nothing on that.
  • PenelopePondPenelopePond member
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, and I probably am, but that pop (soda) thing was not a Michelle Obama thing. It was the mayor, governor, something of New York. Right? (I really need to start keeping up on things more.

    Anyways, I just saw this in TV. https://youtu.be/RSWIxdenoto  Even my tv is telling me to drink more water. 
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  • There is a big difference in outlawing sugary drinks above 20oz and encouraging more water. Not on the same page. And your darn right. Don't tell me I can't have a 24oz soda. Maybe I worked my butt off at the gym and would rather not have artificial crap. I didn't read the article or comments so I have nothing on that.
    I agree with you that there is a difference, but I think the critics of MO's campaign were lumping them together. Again, MO was encouraging, not banning or enforcing. But that didn't stop the "she can't tell me what to drink" comments.

    And I'll be honest, I have mixed feelings about the soda ban. I live 12 miles outside of NYC so I had to hear this argument over and over and OVER again for weeks. Yes, you're absolutely right that as a grown woman it's no one else's business what you eat/drink, how much, in what size container, etc. I think they were just trying to make it a tad more inconvenient in an attempt to get you to drink something healthier. But it backfired. Personally, I am far more concerned with what children are drinking. 

    I work in a high school. I know kids who drink up to 60 oz of soda a day. Why? Because the convenience store sells 24 oz cups for 99 cents. Parents can't watch these kids 24/7, so that's what they buy when they have the freedom to. And don't even get me started on Red Bull and other energy drinks. But where do we draw the line? Do we start ID'ing kids for sodas? Do we ban them from coffee too? What about sugar? Our school got rid of the soda machines but we still sell Snapple, Vitamin Water, juice and strawberry milk. Is that really any better? 

    Now I'm off on a tangent...just thinking out loud. LOL
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  • It's not rational, but food is a personal thing.  Very, very personal for some people.  And I think people (incorrectly) assume that step one is "encouraging" and step two is a police state in which you can't eat or drink anything on Michelle's "no-no" list.  I don't think the NYC "soda ban" helps her case because it reinforces peoples' fear that the government is going to infringe on what most people see as a personal choice.

    Obesity is a national problem, but it's also a personal issue, and I think some people are maybe feeling judged or that Michelle's outlook is holier-than-thou in wanting to address it (like, "Oh, I'm thin and healthy, I'll help you poor ignorant fat folk").  I don't think that's fair, and I think she's motivated by the right things.
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  • not that I ever had a desire to anyway, but there is no way in hell I'd consider moving to NYC as long as Bloomberg is around.  Dude needs to back off big time.   I very strongly oppose limiting pop sizes. It's just plain stupid, and all sorts of other things.

    That being said... it's dumb to get upset about Michele Obama's campaign. Encouraging =/= banning.  Now, if she starts trying to ban drinks in schools, then I'll have concerns.  But as is, your MIL is being stupid.
    Yes, I think it's totally reasonable to disagree with and have discussion about policies like NYC's. 

    And I agree that the knee-jerk reactions to MO's campaign are ridiculous. I think a lot of it is based in Obama-hate and government hate in general. I wish people would be more thoughtful in their reactions and criticisms so that we could have rational and meaningful debate about these sorts of issues.
  • I doubt they were hating on Nancy Reagan and her Just Say No campaign. These people will hate on anything the Obamas do.

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  • hmp1 said:
    I doubt they were hating on Nancy Reagan and her Just Say No campaign. These people will hate on anything the Obamas do.
    Are you kidding me? I protested Just Say No every Wednesday. DON'T TELL ME I CAN'T DO DRUGS AND RUIN MY LYYYYFE!
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  • jbBeans said:
    hmp1 said:
    I doubt they were hating on Nancy Reagan and her Just Say No campaign. These people will hate on anything the Obamas do.
    Are you kidding me? I protested Just Say No every Wednesday. DON'T TELL ME I CAN'T DO DRUGS AND RUIN MY LYYYYFE!
    All the potheads move to Canada.

    PS, Is pot even legal in Canada. I have no idea.

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  • She's speaking in Watertown, WI today at the HS.  Watertown has 2 soda distributors there.  And it's a very small town...under 10,000 people, so chances are more than a few of the kids there might have parents that work for these places.  It seems odd to me that she'd pick there to go and speak but oh well.  In other news, my DH works in Watertown and gets out of work right when she's scheduled to be done speaking.  He already knows he's going to be around an hour later than usual because of the secret service all over the place.


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  • As per my tirade, I support the soda ban in schools. This is after many, many dealings with kids who had 4 cans of Coke at lunch and are literally bouncing off walls. 
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  • Am I the only one who grew up not drinking soda??  I don't recall drinking soda at lunch in HS ever.  Sure at parties or what not, but not while I was at school.  I just think that's weird.


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  • Am I the only one who grew up not drinking soda??  I don't recall drinking soda at lunch in HS ever.  Sure at parties or what not, but not while I was at school.  I just think that's weird.
    We had a soda machine at school, but I was more of a Snapple girl. I did go through a Dr. Pepper phase because I had never had one before HS (my parents didn't drink much soda and didn't like Dr. Pepper) and thought it was the best thing ever. But my choices for food/drink in HS were far from smart, balanced or healthy.
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  • Am I the only one who grew up not drinking soda??  I don't recall drinking soda at lunch in HS ever.  Sure at parties or what not, but not while I was at school.  I just think that's weird.

    We never had pop machines in school. Not even high school. A la carte had Snapple, chocolate milk, and juice options.

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  • We had 2 soda machines in our lunch room, I just think because they were $1.50 (12 years ago) that I was too cheap to buy one.  

    However my last 2 years of HS I did smoke, so I'm sure my Mom would have preferred me drinking soda to smoking.  HS students are not known for their awesome decision making skills, or their concern with consequences.


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  • We had 2 soda machines in our lunch room, I just think because they were $1.50 (12 years ago) that I was too cheap to buy one.  

    However my last 2 years of HS I did smoke, so I'm sure my Mom would have preferred me drinking soda to smoking.  HS students are not known for their awesome decision making skills, or their concern with consequences.


    DEFINITELY not. I went to an all-girls Catholic HS. Smoking was strictly forbidden and that was heavily enforced, but we could eat sugar all day long. Apparently, God doesn't mind diabetes or obesity.
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  • Am I the only one who grew up not drinking soda??  I don't recall drinking soda at lunch in HS ever.  Sure at parties or what not, but not while I was at school.  I just think that's weird.
    I didn't drink soda until college. I was a serious athlete and drank water all the time.

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