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~*~*MSPI Moms Weekly Check-In*~*~

~*~*MSPI Moms Weekly Check-In*~*~

Welcome! This is a check-in for moms who are/were on a dairy free and/or soy free diet due to their LO's intolerance. The check-ins will be posted every Monday morning on the Breastfeeding board and XP'd to the Food Allergy board. If you'd like to join the group, just post an intro here and dive in! To check out the archive of our previous check-ins, please see the MSPI Moms Blog.

It's been a couple of weeks since we've checked in. How is everyone doing? Anyone tried reintroducing dairy and/or soy recently? If so, how'd it go? If not, when do you plan to do so? Anything else you'd like to share?

 

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  • Hi everyone!

    We are doing good, diet-wise. (Not so good sleep-wise. I'm a tired mama today.) So now I've given DS yogurt, cheese, and butter, and he's done fine. A little gassier than normal but nothing major. I also have given him a bit of egg and he seems ok with that too. Yay!

    PSA re: Chipotle - Last week I checked their allergen menu again, and like, everything has soy oil in it. Used to be the carnitas did not, but now they just list all meat as having soy oil. Bummer for those of us avoiding soy oil. You can pretty much only eat their salsa and gauc (but not their chips). Boo.

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  • CLLDLLCLLDLL member
    edited September 2013

    Things are going great here.  DS2 has now had pretty much every dairy product but straight WCM & done fine!!! So I feel a lot better about weaning myself from the pump at work in a few weeks.  Now I just have to figure out when/if/how to wean DS from nursing.  I really don't want to wean anytime soon, but we want to TTC starting early next year. I'm hoping weaning from the pump will be enough to kick start my cycles again!

     

    Thats a bummer about Chipotle.  That used to be one of my staples when I was in the thick of MPSI diet.

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  • We're doing well. DS is very happy, even if he is still spitty, but very little tummy troubles.

    I had half a piece of cheese hidden in a sandwich two weeks ago, and I didn't see any reaction in DS. I'm not ready to try any more, but I was relieved he had little to no reaction. I e also reintroduced caffeine back into my life. Mornings are better with a cup of coffee and coconut creamer!

    I really miss pizza, though.

    DH came home from the store with a Krusteaze pumpkin squares mix that has no dairy and can be made dairy free. Haven't tried it yet, but wanted to let everyone know it's out there.
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  • My mom accidentally gave LO some waffles made with milk during our vacation a few weeks ago, and she didn't react at all!  A few days later, we tried some cooked cheese, and she tolerated that also.  After these things were going well for a while, we started sneaking some WCM in mixed with her BM bottles for DC, and it's been going great!  We are so excited to officially be able to eat dairy in our house again.  She's now on 50:50 WCM:BM, and I dropped down to one pump/day starting today.  This has been a very difficult year, but I am so happy we made it through!
    What a bummer about chipotle!  I know all the paleo folks go there for the carnitas salad in addition to MSPI mamas.  We should start a letter writing campaign!
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  • We're still in the trial and error stages of what is really going on. I'm not sure if its mspi or reflux or both. Ugh.

    I ate out Thursday and he was fussier and got a slight rash on his face Friday. When I ate out it I avoided obvious soy an dairy items but I assume them were in some of the stuff. He seem a little better after this weekend. It's just difficult to really know what the issue was/ is.

    I'm also wondering if I'm giving him the reflux meds without them being necessary. Although he did "throw up" a ton and forcefully on Saturday. But did fine the rest of the day.

    Gah. Being a FTM is difficult to know what's wrong. I don't know what "typical" is. He just seems uncomfortable when he spits up and he'll spit up if he's not held upright after eating.

    That's a huge bummer about chipotle, that is one of my favorites.
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  • TJ1979 said:
    My mom accidentally gave LO some waffles made with milk during our vacation a few weeks ago, and she didn't react at all!  A few days later, we tried some cooked cheese, and she tolerated that also.  After these things were going well for a while, we started sneaking some WCM in mixed with her BM bottles for DC, and it's been going great!  We are so excited to officially be able to eat dairy in our house again.  She's now on 50:50 WCM:BM, and I dropped down to one pump/day starting today.  This has been a very difficult year, but I am so happy we made it through!
    What a bummer about chipotle!  I know all the paleo folks go there for the carnitas salad in addition to MSPI mamas.  We should start a letter writing campaign!
    Woohoo!! I'm so happy for you, that is great news!! I know you have been around here for awhile.. great job Mama!
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  • I'm back, as I thought I would be after DS1.

    DS 2 is now 3mo and is definately intolerant to dairy and soy.  He can tolerate soy oil and lecithin though which is great (DS1 could not).  However we're dealing with a bunch of other issues, and I'm pretty sure he can't have peanuts as well.  Unfortunately it doesn't surprise me since it runs in the family (my cousin and my niece).

    We start seeing a new doctor with an LC and an allergist in the same clinic so hopefully they can give us some answers as to what is going on.
    Well I am sorry you have to be back here, but I know we all appreciate having some "veteran" MSPI mamas around. I hope you get some answers soon about your LOs issues!
  • We're still in the trial and error stages of what is really going on. I'm not sure if its mspi or reflux or both. Ugh. I ate out Thursday and he was fussier and got a slight rash on his face Friday. When I ate out it I avoided obvious soy an dairy items but I assume them were in some of the stuff. He seem a little better after this weekend. It's just difficult to really know what the issue was/ is. I'm also wondering if I'm giving him the reflux meds without them being necessary. Although he did "throw up" a ton and forcefully on Saturday. But did fine the rest of the day. Gah. Being a FTM is difficult to know what's wrong. I don't know what "typical" is. He just seems uncomfortable when he spits up and he'll spit up if he's not held upright after eating. That's a huge bummer about chipotle, that is one of my favorites.

    I remember those early days second-guessing everything I ate and scrutinizing everything DS did. Heck, I still do that to some extent. I know how hard it is. Trust your mama intuition, you know your LO best. If your doc isn't giving you the answers you need, keep looking!

    But also, try to take a step back and relax every now and then. The stress can really get to you. GL and I hope we can help!

  • We are doing well here. I'm so used to eating without dairy that I don't even think about it. We finally had DD's 1 yr appt (a month late) and the doc is upset because she fell off the CDC chart, even though she's still on the WHO chart. My husband and I are small people so I'm not worried. The doc gave us no advice for reintroducing anything so we haven't yet. Still nervous I guess. It's a different doc since her old one deployed. I loved him and I'm not sure how I feel about her yet. Any advice for reintroducing? What do we try first? At this point we are on our own. I'm not sure how much to do yet since we are going to be traveling soon and I don't want to risk reactions while out of town.
    We didn't get much guidance from our pedi about reintroducing except to take it slow and call her if he had any reactions. We started with yogurt, then melted cheese, then butter. We will try baked-in milk (probably a muffin) next. This is sort of the progression I've heard from other moms. GL!
  • Hi there! I'm not on much these days, but thought I'd say hello!

    DD2 is almost 20 months now. She can tolerate when I have some dairy/soy in packaged foods, but I still avoid major dairy/soy. She can also tolerate things like packaged dinner rolls with dairy/soy, I've just been too paranoid to try anything more yet.

    She also has true allergies to peanuts, tree nuts, and eggs. She's still very interested in nursing, so we just keep on truckin'!
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  • shotzie said:
    Hi there! I'm not on much these days, but thought I'd say hello! DD2 is almost 20 months now. She can tolerate when I have some dairy/soy in packaged foods, but I still avoid major dairy/soy. She can also tolerate things like packaged dinner rolls with dairy/soy, I've just been too paranoid to try anything more yet. She also has true allergies to peanuts, tree nuts, and eggs. She's still very interested in nursing, so we just keep on truckin'!
    Good to "see" you & glad to hear things are going well.
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  • shotzie said:
    Hi there! I'm not on much these days, but thought I'd say hello! DD2 is almost 20 months now. She can tolerate when I have some dairy/soy in packaged foods, but I still avoid major dairy/soy. She can also tolerate things like packaged dinner rolls with dairy/soy, I've just been too paranoid to try anything more yet. She also has true allergies to peanuts, tree nuts, and eggs. She's still very interested in nursing, so we just keep on truckin'!
    Hi shotzie! Thanks for checking in. Glad to hear your DD2 is tolerating some dairy and soy!
  • edited September 2013
    Going okay here. I keep dairy, soy, tree nuts, and peanuts out of my diet and that has made DS2 so much happier.

    His poops were totally normal and are now heading back to a more watery or mucousy look. I don't really know what else to cut out as I don't eat fish or shellfish and haven't had eggs in at least a month.

    I haven't had pasta in several weeks either so I can't figure out what might be upsetting him. Otherwise he is not nearly as gassy or spitting up so much and is a relatively happy baby. He still doesn't sleep unless held but I keep trying. ;)

    I have become addicted to the Enjoy Life chocolate chunks and I think those will stay even after we get through MSPI.

    Found a website selling top 8 allergen free candies but it is very expensive. I CRAVE gummy bears like no tomorrow so I may ask for some from that site as my Christmas gift from DH.
  • Going okay here. I keep dairy, soy, tree nuts, and peanuts out of my diet and that has made DS2 so much happier. His poops were totally normal and are now heading back to a more watery or mucousy look. I don't really know what else to cut out as I don't eat fish or shellfish and haven't had eggs in at least a month. I haven't had pasta in several weeks either so I can't figure out what might be upsetting him. Otherwise he is not nearly as gassy or spitting up so much and is a relatively happy baby. He still doesn't sleep unless held but I keep trying. ;) I have become addicted to the Enjoy Life chocolate chunks and I think those will stay even after we get through MSPI. Found a website selling top 8 allergen free candies but it is very expensive. I CRAVE gummy bears like no tomorrow so I may ask for some from that site as my Christmas gift from DH.
    Have you tried YummyEarth gummy bears? I found some at Super Target! I'm sure they sell them at places like Whole Foods too. https://yummyearth.com/natural_organic_gummy_bears.html
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  • @rocknrollfriend and @CLLDLL Thanks, ladies! :) 
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  • Speaking of gummy bears! I found a recipe to make them one time. I'll have to see if I can find it.

    Another recipe I made was Soy Free Soy Sauce! It was delicious!

    https://stephaniecooks.blogspot.com/2012/05/homemade-soy-sauce-soy-free-soy-sauce.html?m=1

    https://www.bear-dictionary.com/Gummi-Bear-Recipe.html
    I've never made gummy bears, nor do I know what's in the gelatin packet. So that might not be helpful.
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  • Going okay here. I keep dairy, soy, tree nuts, and peanuts out of my diet and that has made DS2 so much happier. His poops were totally normal and are now heading back to a more watery or mucousy look. I don't really know what else to cut out as I don't eat fish or shellfish and haven't had eggs in at least a month. I haven't had pasta in several weeks either so I can't figure out what might be upsetting him. Otherwise he is not nearly as gassy or spitting up so much and is a relatively happy baby. He still doesn't sleep unless held but I keep trying. ;) I have become addicted to the Enjoy Life chocolate chunks and I think those will stay even after we get through MSPI. Found a website selling top 8 allergen free candies but it is very expensive. I CRAVE gummy bears like no tomorrow so I may ask for some from that site as my Christmas gift from DH.

    Is there anything else you've recently started eating more of? Your DS could be sensitive to something unexpected... For example, my DS has as severe a reaction to cabbage as he does to soy. Cabbage! Also when I've introduced certain foods to him he has different symptoms that seem to indicate they aren't agreeing with him, like sandy poop when I gave him buckwheat, and a rashy face when I give him chickpeas.

    @shotzie: thanks for the tip re: those gummy candies! I will definitely look for those!

  • TJ1979 said:
    What a bummer about chipotle!  I know all the paleo folks go there for the carnitas salad in addition to MSPI mamas.  We should start a letter writing campaign!
    You know, I was actually thinking about writing to them. All they would have to do is change the oil they use and I could eat almost everything on their menu.
  • That's the weird thing. My diet is mostly lettuce, ham, chicken, carrots, celery, corn, peas, green beans, black olives, mushrooms, rice, quinoa, apples, grapes, bananas, Enjoy Life chocolates, and homemade Italian dressing. I can't think of anything that should give him any issues. I haven't changed my diet at all since I removed tree nuts and peanuts. I'll have to see if it stays more watery or goes back in the next few days. Maybe it is the lettuce? I probably eat that less often than anything else.

    I'll have to check Target for gummy bears the next time we get out of town. Target is a good 45 minutes away so we only get there a couple times a year.
  • Hello!

    I am new to all of this! My LO is almost 5 months and starting today I am dairy, soy, egg, and nut free! I have been eating only chicken and white rice for 5 days while I waited to see the dr.
    This is going to be difficult. I am also thinking I should just add glueten to the list just so I have everything covered.
    I am hoping to find what is upsetting my LO's tummy :(
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  • That's the weird thing. My diet is mostly lettuce, ham, chicken, carrots, celery, corn, peas, green beans, black olives, mushrooms, rice, quinoa, apples, grapes, bananas, Enjoy Life chocolates, and homemade Italian dressing. I can't think of anything that should give him any issues. I haven't changed my diet at all since I removed tree nuts and peanuts. I'll have to see if it stays more watery or goes back in the next few days. Maybe it is the lettuce? I probably eat that less often than anything else. I'll have to check Target for gummy bears the next time we get out of town. Target is a good 45 minutes away so we only get there a couple times a year.
    How long have you been on this diet? Is it possible something is still working it's way out of your systems? It can take 3 weeks or more for some of the proteins to completely work their way out.
    It's also possible he could be sick! When I first took DS in they ran a bunch of tests to see if he had a virus or something.
    What about vitamins, supplements, medications? Lip balm often has soy in it too!
  • Hello! I am new to all of this! My LO is almost 5 months and starting today I am dairy, soy, egg, and nut free! I have been eating only chicken and white rice for 5 days while I waited to see the dr. This is going to be difficult. I am also thinking I should just add glueten to the list just so I have everything covered. I am hoping to find what is upsetting my LO's tummy :(
    Welcome and good luck! Whatever you decide to do with your diet, make a plan you know you can stick to! It is really hard to take on such a restrictive diet. When I was trying to figure out what was still causing a reaction in my DS, the pedi GI said to just try cutting out wheat first rather than all gluten. Wheat did the trick for us! It can also help to see a dietician. GL!


  • That's the weird thing. My diet is mostly lettuce, ham, chicken, carrots, celery, corn, peas, green beans, black olives, mushrooms, rice, quinoa, apples, grapes, bananas, Enjoy Life chocolates, and homemade Italian dressing. I can't think of anything that should give him any issues. I haven't changed my diet at all since I removed tree nuts and peanuts. I'll have to see if it stays more watery or goes back in the next few days. Maybe it is the lettuce? I probably eat that less often than anything else.

    I'll have to check Target for gummy bears the next time we get out of town. Target is a good 45 minutes away so we only get there a couple times a year.

    How long have you been on this diet? Is it possible something is still working it's way out of your systems? It can take 3 weeks or more for some of the proteins to completely work their way out.
    It's also possible he could be sick! When I first took DS in they ran a bunch of tests to see if he had a virus or something.
    What about vitamins, supplements, medications? Lip balm often has soy in it too!

    Thanks for the ideas. I have been on this diet for the last two months. I have cut out lettuce and will see if that changes anything. I'll try it again in 3 weeks and see if I get any change with that challenge. I am on all the same meds and the only real change is that I added in a dairy free probiotic a month ago trying to help heal both our bellies.

    Of course after I am worried about it, little stinker hasn't pooped in 24 hours. Maybe he's finally going to regulate away from the million runny poops he's had since birth.
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