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DS in tears

Today my DS11 (Asperger's diagnosis) confides in me that his grandfather yells at him when he tries to talk about me or his SF.  BF takes DS 2x a week and every time they visit they go to grandfather's house.  DS told me that he is scared to keep going there.  He is also scared for his sister (8) because she like to talk about what happens here a lot.  DS has extreme anxiety to begin with.  I'm starting to worry about his mental health and wondering if these visits are causing more harm than good.  When does this get addressed beyond me complaining to BF?  DS often comes home early because of his discomfort.  CO allows this.  But eventually he's not going to want to visit at all.  
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Re: DS in tears

  • I'm so sorry for your DS, that's really tough :(. I'm not sure about getting this addressed, but hopefully the other ladies will have some insight. T&Ps your & DS's way!
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  • Is BF open to talking about it?
    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • SimpleJaneSimpleJane member
    edited September 2013
    I would start by addressing it with BF.
  • I'm so sorry for your DS :(  I would talk to BF about it first. Poor kid.

     I recently found out that SS hears the same thing from BM. She will yell at him that she does not want to hear about his time with DH.

    Parents need to take the ego out of divorce when there are kids. Take the ego out, and then there's no jealousy, drama or anger. So sad what some parents do to their children, all for the sake of themselves.

     

  • All my children are Autistic. The eldest who I have been with since birth is confirmed AS. Being very sensitive seems to be a big part of that. Being a boy you have to be tough and not show your emotions. That's hard for someone with AS I think. They have really strong emotions and you have to be firm but gentle with them in my experience. My parents do very well with our eldest but I still see issues with the way my mother enforces discipline or how she addresses our eldest. She just doesn't know how to handle it, doesn't do it on a daily basis and never did it when we were growing up because they didn't really know about this stuff then.

    Since it's your BFF (How do you abbreviate that?) I have found that a lot of the opinions the XIL's have come from what the ex has told them. I would definitely talk to BD about grandpa and ask him to do something about this. My concern would be BD talked to DS and telling him he wasn't allowed to tell you those kinds of things anymore so now he's trapped with no one to champion him and the way he's feeling. You'll know best how BD will react. There is a really good book on Asperger's called This Is Asperger's that I've passed around to my family to help them understand what it's all about. If grandpa would read it, maybe it would help.

    If he's not seeing a therapist I would think that would be helpful. I would also talk to the team of experts he works with at school to see if they've heard anything. I know mine has talked to therapists during evolutions. I contacted the US Autism and Aspergers association and they provided me with some great resources as well as some local professionals who specialize in these areas. Ultimately to get anything done without BD's cooperation I think you're going to need a professional opinion. I hope that you can talk to BD and explain what's going on and he will talk to his father or will stop the visits to his house for DS's sake. If not, you probably need to build evidence from a professional that these visits and grandfather's attitude is harmful to your DS before the court of BD will do anything. After I had evidence I'd try to talk to BD one last time but if he still refuses to take action, I'd go to the court.

    I'm a hellion where my kids are concerned. They need someone to be their champion because they don't know how to handle things at these young ages and most people have no idea how to respond or handle them. For them, many things other people take for granted as inherent social skills have to be learned.

  • piffle42 said:
    I'm going to assume your DS is seeing a therapist or counselor. If he's not I'd highly recommend it. I'm sure they could offer some guidance (and potentially even talk with BF).
    ^ This.  Even if they cannot talk BF into helping with the situation, they can help them cope with the discomfort and you have some record other than yourself of it happening if you need it.
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  • I have emailed BD about this and other issues.  He won't talk to me in person or respond to emails.  Therapist is part of day treatment at school, they won't get involved with family situations such as this.  Nice, huh?  Had a private therapist over the summer, she felt she couldn't be unbiased (because BD is a total douche).  I feel that if my son continues on this path it will be harmful.  But I feel that if I take it to court, nothing will happen, except for a huge lawyer bill.  
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  • I'd say continue the visits only as long as your DS allows (pick him right away - even if it's a ridiculously short amount of time). If he doesn't have a cell phone, provide him with one, so he can immediately let you know when he wants to come home. Maybe, after a while, your ex will either stop bothering with the visits altogether (if your DS decides to spend maybe less than an hour or whatever), or - he actually starts seeing this as an issue, and will start treating your son (and daughter) appropriately.

  • They definitely have cell phones because I am listed as "the b!tch" under XH's contacts.  I really thought he would stop bothering by now.  Also, he lives with his best friend from high school in a bachelor pad.  I gave him a huge settlement so he could buy a home.  It's been well over a year.  It would be so much better if the kids had a second home to go to.  I hate sending them
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  • I have emailed BD about this and other issues.  He won't talk to me in person or respond to emails.  Therapist is part of day treatment at school, they won't get involved with family situations such as this.  Nice, huh?  Had a private therapist over the summer, she felt she couldn't be unbiased (because BD is a total douche).  I feel that if my son continues on this path it will be harmful.  But I feel that if I take it to court, nothing will happen, except for a huge lawyer bill.  
    I'm confused.  Did you stop going to therapy?  Did you contact your lawyer and let him/her know that the therapist is so concerned with your son's treatment by his father that she could no longer be "biased" (whatever that means).  

    We had our SS in therapy when we got him.  Therapist was so aghast at what SS claimed that if 1/3 of what was true, that there was neglect and abuse, she came to dislike BM.  But she did not stop therapy, she continued with her treatment (not sure how believing BF is an ass affects the therapy when the goal of therapy is to help the PATIENT deal with his/her issues, especially if one of those issues is a parent) and offered us everything her professional abilites allowed in order to get full custody. 

    So why not get him back into therapy to at least DEAL with his Father and Grandfather and then use the professional opinions to gain a better custody agreement. 
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  • I have no experience with this type of situation. My BH has always been very supportive. My GD has not been involved for a decade and he won't be coming back if I don't poke the bear. That being said, I can only speak for what I would do in your position with my Autistic child. I would start back with the/a therapist. Your DS can use all the help and support he can get with BD and his father. I would at least consult with a lawyer. Tell them what is going on and get there opinion. If nothing else find out what you need to have grounds to seek a restraining order against grandpa. This is terroristic treatment. BD may still see DS but grandpa would need to go. I would guess this leads to neglect on BD part and could potentially lead to fewer visits and/or supervised ones. In any case it doesn't hurt to gather the information. I wish I had more to offer. I can only imagine how heart wrenching this must be for you. Autistic kids are so sensitive. They have no thick skin. I hope you get a miracle to relieve your LO's of such a stress. I will keep you in my thoughts and if I hear of anything that might help will let you know.
  • We had to switch from private therapist to one at school this month.  He attended this school for most of last year so they are familiar with him.  Honestly, his lack of social skills make him less of an ideal candidate for therapy, play or otherwise.  He barely is able to tell me his thoughts and feelings.  I guess I needed a little encouragement to call my attorney, which I will be doing monday.  I would love full custody but would the court rule this for just my DS or for both of our children?  I don't want them to be separated in any way (the siblings).  
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  • SO you are telling me that you ONLY have therapy for your Spectrum child through the school?  
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  • Yes.  However, he attends a special program.  Not public school.  So, he has daily access to a therapist, 2 psychologists,a psych nurse, psych NP and a psychiatrist.  It's a 6:1:3 (student:teacher:aide) ratio.  He receives OT, has access to sensory room at any time.  There is a behavior modification plan in place in the classroom.  He receives individual as well as group psychotherapy. 
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