2nd Trimester

Other kids in the house

Okay I live with my SO and his family (his uncle, uncle's wife, their almost 4yearold son and their almost two month old girl, and his aunt (sister to uncle and SO's mom))
It absolutely drives me nuts how the boy is around his sister always grabbing at her and pullin on her when I'm helping out with her. I understand he loves his little sister and doesn't realize how considering fragile she is. He only does it pretty much when she's in my arms and I feel it ain't my place to really try to disciple him sometimes but his mom is ok with me getting on to him about that.
I'm 18 weeks as of tomorrow. I keep thinking that if this boy is going to do this to my child when it arrives this boy isn't going to be able to sit down for a month. Am I in the wrong for thinking that?

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  • About bustin his ass? Or the post in general?
  • Get over the grammar ok?
    And I have corrected him but it doesn't work.
    Also I take it you have never heard the expression "can't sit down for a month"
  • About bustin his ass? Or the post in general?
    The post and grammar in general made me raise my eyebrows. Talking about beating a FOUR YEAR OLD so badly that he can't sit for a month, when you admit you haven't tried to correct him and that he means no harm? That's pretty gross.
    How did I know I would see one y'all in this post lol and for what its worth AGREED!
  • Get over the grammar ok?
    And I have corrected him but it doesn't work.
    Also I take it you have never heard the expression "can't sit down for a month"

    I've heard the expression and think it's disgusting, both for the implied beating and implied severity.


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  • About bustin his ass? Or the post in general?
    The post and grammar in general made me raise my eyebrows. Talking about beating a FOUR YEAR OLD so badly that he can't sit for a month, when you admit you haven't tried to correct him and that he means no harm? That's pretty gross.
    Mte! On top of the fact that the kid isn't even your child…
  • Honestly, it kinda sounds like you and your SO need your own space. When your baby comes you will want time to bond and be with your baby. It doesn't sound like you will get much of that with all of that family under the same roof. About the little boy, I would sit him down and teach him what is appropriate and what is not when handling a baby. I would start with a baby doll. When you bring the baby home let him sit next to you and maybe help him to hold the baby for a short time. The more familiar he is the less likely he will be to poke at the baby. It sounds like he is either curious or jealous. There are solutions to both problems you just have to figure out which problem you have. Spanking will only teach him that hitting is sometimes ok. Don't get me wrong I would pat my daughters bottom if needed when she is older but when they are younger they only understand the part about hitting being ok. And while I grew up with the expression I hope that you understand that hitting until the skin is red is considered child abuse in most state.GL!
  • I won't physically discipline this boy. Yeah I've popped his hand for tryin to grab a knife or hot stove or pan. And swatted his butt for jumpin on furniture that I'm sittin on. My SO and I have the whole upstairs of the house to ourselves. And the boy isn't allowed up there unless he is invited by an adult. And I think he is a little of both curious and jealous. He watched his mom's belly grow for nine months and now the baby is here but also all the attention isn't on him anymore. I'll try the baby doll with him. And thankyou for being helpful on this. When I made this post it was right after I had to deal with him pulling, grabbing, and yelling at the baby while I was holding her. So I was pretty upset. It didn't help at all considering the baby has been sick lately and very fussy.
  • Get your own place and this will no longer be an issue.

    If that's not an option maybe read some books or articles on introducing Pre school age siblings to babies.

    I'll just ignore the rest of the post.


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    You should not physically discipline this or any other child.  The expression you used is inappropriate.

    Pulling, grabbing, yelling at/near the baby are all relatively normal behaviors for a 4 year old who is just learning how to have a baby sister.  It doesn't mean they are acceptable, but a 4 year old can reason.  Talk to him, explain to him.  You'll have to do it more than once (more than twice, more than 10 times probably).  Preschoolers are impulsive, but they can and will learn.

    As far as this with your own baby, this is practice for if you ever decide to have a second or third child.  I know it was SUPER difficult when I had DS2 and continually tried explaining to my 15 month old DS1 that he couldn't "pat" the baby quite so hard.  It's frustrating, but it's just part of the game.

    Agree with a PP that you might look into getting your own apartment or house with your SO.
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  • If you are that worried then move out and get your own place. Kids can be rough because they usually do not understand their strength. Why are you living with so many people? Can you and your SO get a small apartment?
  • I totally understand how you feel, but maybe it's time to figure out a way to form a savings plan to find somewhere else to stay...not being ugly at all...but there are low income housing areas in every state...another thing is...Maybe he is not sure on how to comfort his new baby sis..So you can just relax and teach him in a nurturing way...that would give you major brownie points, and show the family what they should be showing and teaching him as well...Again..Congrats, and take care!
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  • I think some of you might be blowing things a bit out of proportion! I don't agree with physical discipline but I don't get the impression the poster was actually meaning she was going to beat the child. Clarification rather than hostility would work a whole lot better!

    Now to the initial poster, I think you need to teach the child appropriate behaviour around a baby as it doesn't seem this has been done. Ultimately you need your own home. All those people under one roof is a recipe for disaster IMO!
  • I think some of you might be blowing things a bit out of proportion! I don't agree with physical discipline but I don't get the impression the poster was actually meaning she was going to beat the child. Clarification rather than hostility would work a whole lot better!

    Now to the initial poster, I think you need to teach the child appropriate behaviour around a baby as it doesn't seem this has been done. Ultimately you need your own home. All those people under one roof is a recipe for disaster IMO!

    She's admitted she hits the child, who is not her child. I dislike physical discipline when someone does it to their own kid, and I say so clearly.

    But when someone threatens to hurt a child who isn't their own without even attempting any other discipline? You're darn right I'm going to be "hostile".


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  • I think some of you might be blowing things a bit out of proportion! I don't agree with physical discipline but I don't get the impression the poster was actually meaning she was going to beat the child. Clarification rather than hostility would work a whole lot better!

    Now to the initial poster, I think you need to teach the child appropriate behaviour around a baby as it doesn't seem this has been done. Ultimately you need your own home. All those people under one roof is a recipe for disaster IMO!

    She's admitted she hits the child, who is not her child. I dislike physical discipline when someone does it to their own kid, and I say so clearly.

    But when someone threatens to hurt a child who isn't their own without even attempting any other discipline? You're darn right I'm going to be "hostile".
    Calm down! Perhaps her use of language is the sticking point for you but "popping" his hand and "swatting" hardly sound like corporal punishment! The child's parents are there, it is their call. If she had said "I beat him with a belt" then I could see why you would jump straight to attack mode.

    She is posting on here as she is looking for ideas as to how to deal with the situation so she is making attempts to find other forms of discipline.
  • You are aware that 352352 generations of babies have survived their older siblings being "rough", hanging on them, grabbing them etc? right?

    It's a pretty normal common sibling thing. I don't even want to know what I did to my siblings when they came along.

    Keep an eye on the baby. Teach older kid gentle. Call it a day. They all grow out of it eventually.

  • Move out...stop hitting kids.


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  • If it worries you so much, why don't you move out and get your own place? Problem solved, no need to hurt a 4 year old or worry about your child.
  • It worries me the hostility on this board... But tapping a child's hand when they reach for something sharp or hot is completely different to "physical discipline" it's a natural response to it and you can tap the child's hand and then say "no, it's hot" it's not like she's beating the child.
    As for grabbing and poking maybe if you hold his hand when he tries and say "we don't grab/hit/poke" and holding his hand show him how he should interact with his sister and then he will know for when your LO comes along.
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  • I was spanked by family members who weren't my parents, I turned out just fine, and you also have to take into account how the child is normally disciplined by his parents as well, she may not be doing anything different than they would and that is establishing consistency with the child that if he does something wrong he will be punished that way by everyone, not that he can get away with it because they're not his mother.
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  • Let me make this clear: Hitting a child to teach them to be gentle is ridiculous and will not work.

    Hitting a child when you admittedly haven't tried another method of discipline is also very wrong.

    Hitting a child out of anger is wrong (OP stated she'd be angry if he did this to her child).

    Hitting a child who is not your child is WRONG.


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  • I think some of you might be blowing things a bit out of proportion! I don't agree with physical discipline but I don't get the impression the poster was actually meaning she was going to beat the child. Clarification rather than hostility would work a whole lot better! Now to the initial poster, I think you need to teach the child appropriate behaviour around a baby as it doesn't seem this has been done. Ultimately you need your own home. All those people under one roof is a recipe for disaster IMO!
    She's admitted she hits the child, who is not her child. I dislike physical discipline when someone does it to their own kid, and I say so clearly. But when someone threatens to hurt a child who isn't their own without even attempting any other discipline? You're darn right I'm going to be "hostile".
    Calm down! Perhaps her use of language is the sticking point for you but "popping" his hand and "swatting" hardly sound like corporal punishment! The child's parents are there, it is their call. If she had said "I beat him with a belt" then I could see why you would jump straight to attack mode. She is posting on here as she is looking for ideas as to how to deal with the situation so she is making attempts to find other forms of discipline.
    You also don't know what her definition of "swatting" and "popping" are. For all we know, it's full force. You're not there to see it. 

    The PP's points are that:
    a) it's not her kid and she shouldn't be "popping" or "swatting" him anyway because it's not her place. 
    b) teaching a kid to be gentile, but then performing those hitting actions (whether they hurt him or not) are contradictory and confusing to a child which is only encouraging to keep doing what he's doing that she finds so offensive. 

    OP, pick up some books on child discipline. Sometimes you need to be firm (not physical) and tell him "no". Like other PPs have said, use the times when he misbehaves as a teaching moment. Instead of smacking him when he reaches for a knife or the stove, remove the knife from his reach and explain to him why he can't have it. Pick him up and move him away from the stove, but tell him why you're doing it. They also make stove guards that you can get with other baby safety items. It looks like a big angled shield type thing that prevents a toddler from touching a hot stove.

    Kids aren't stupid. Display the behaviors that you want to see in him and he'll pick up on it. 
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  • edited September 2013
    First of all, if your living in another persons home your going to have to get over some things. Or move out. Im living with family cause of recent moving and divorce.. i sleep in the dining room with my five year old and i have to deal with loud tvs while were trying to sleep.. nothing i can do til i move out bout it. Im not saying let a wild child run over your kid.. Or other kids. But threatening hurt him instead of sitting him down when he does it, really? I believe in spanking NOT beatings. Either grow up and approach this situation as an adult or MOVE OUT.
  • The problem with a situation like this with so many adults, is you have too many chiefs.
    If not everyone is on the same page of punishment for certain behaviors it becomes very confusing and unclear to the child.
    I've been in the situation similar. Not a live in but I kept my BFF little boy and was told to do time outs and to "smack"? Pat? The back of his hand.
    But turns out I was consistently pushing for behaviors that were not okay at my house but he was not receiving any discipline for the same behavior at home so I was getting NO where!
    You have to ask momma what she wants you to do when DS is behaving like that and do as she does everytime.
    Her child or not, I believe discipline has to be consistent and tailored to the personality of that child with all the adults that are with him the majority of the time.

    And ps OP, avoiding double negatives will bring more positive responses in life.





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