Who died and made you pregnant police? <--my thought toward a majority of people these days.
I know this is a complaint almost every pregnant woman has. Nosy people!
This is my first pregnancy, so I am apparently a target for unsolicited advice and/or rude comments when I say what kind of birth I want.
I want a natural birth. I am using the Bradley Method. I'm not taking any type of medicine (OTC or prescription) during the pregnancy, nor will I accept any type of pain medication (including IV drugs) during labor/delivery. I do not plan on being induced unless truly necessary (I'm 3 weeks late with a big fat baby) and I've educated myself enough to know when a c-section is actually needed and when I'm receiving medical advice from someone who's watch is ticking and is ready to go home. With this method, you keep a close eye on your nutritional intake, exercise, etc. The Bradley Method focuses completely on how natural birth is a possibility for every woman who remains low risk.
So what am I hearing?
"Oh you'll change you're mine"
"Why on earth would you do that when you could just get an epidural?"
"Are you insane?"
"Oh, you're just young and stupid. That first contraction will hit and you'll be screaming for drugs"
"It's impossible to give birth naturally. You might as well just plan for an epidural"
Seriously people? First of all, I don't just bring up that I'm having a natural birth because I know I will hear these things; however, when others around me say "Oh you'll love that epidural," I feel the need to say "I'm not using one." Open the flood gates.
Moms who PLANNED a natural birth, did you get attacked by others and how did you deal with it? I am a VERY opinionated person, so it is hard for me to laugh comments off. I probably make it worse for myself by trying to explain to these nay-sayers WHY I am going drug free and the benefits of it. I just get "Well, I had drugs and my kids are fine" and they wave it off like having a child naturally is some new-fangled idea or something. It's insanity. I'm only 14 weeks, and it's already getting ridiculous! HELP!
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Some people look at me like I won't make it, but my family is very supportive, as is DH and the ILs (my MIL gave birth naturally to both of her biological children). My mom didn't go natural, but she has no tolerance for pain; my cousin went natural, and she and her mom are very encouraging and helpful as well.
I hope you do find some supportive people in your personal life (not just from your classes of fellow natural childbirth devotees) to encourage you!
I am sorry; I cant be too much help because I do plan to use an epidural. I will never understand why some people judge however. I love the comment you mentioned....
"It's impossible to give birth naturally. You might as well just plan for an epidural"
LOL. It's impossible. I love it. Just stick with what you want to do and with what you are 100% comfortable with. Ignor everyone else. You know what they say about opinions - their like asss-holes... everyone's got one!
I don't. But when people ask I say I'm planning a natural birth but am accepting of the fact that things can prevent me from being able to have the birth I want.
It's nice to have a birth plan and an idea of how you want it to go but you have to go into it open minded and flexible enough to realize that things don't always happen that way. In fact, from reading birth stories and being on BOTB for over a year, I have heard more people say things went exactly how they didn't plan them to go than that they had the exact birth they envisioned.
People will open their mouthes and say whatever falls out all the time. Just chalk the comments up to ignorance and try not to get so worked up about it.
i think it's crazy on both sides. naturalists are just as stubborn. guilting you into a drugfree birth doesn't make friends. and a pain-free birth? BS!!! not without drugs. you can call contractions whatever you want but they're still going to hurt like a biitch.
i have gotten the same comments because i'm going natural. i can take pain. my job actually requires it. i'm going natural, and you know what? it's for ME. i don't want a C-section etc. honestly, a sleepy baby is the least of my worries.
I didn't necessarily plan a natural birth with my first pg, I said all during the pg that I would prefer that but figured I'd see what happens. Luckily my daughter did the deciding for me when I went so quick they said, oops sorry too late now if you would want anything....Which pleased me because I now know I can live through it. haha I'm hoping to do the same thing this time and go natural though I'm still hoping that it goes fast again too, because now knowing whats to come, If it takes longer and knowing there is relief....i'm not sure if i would turn it down or not being put in that pain again. It is possible though to go through, and don't let people get to you, I was told the whole time that I'd never make it without, I showed all those people though and it gives you bragging rights!!
I'm also planning to take a Bradley class and try to go natural. However, I'm also reserving my right to get into labor and change my mind and decide I want an epidural.
I'm still getting comments like that from people.
Honestly, I think a lot of it is that people like to have other people validate their choices. They chose an epidural, so they want you to choose one too. Maybe they wish they hadn't had it, maybe they are jealous that you're willing to try without one. Maybe they just know that handling pain like that without medication is not a decision they'd ever make, so they can't really understand your choice.
I think the best way to deflect comments like that is humor. I usually just say that I'm more terrified of a needle in my spine and a possible spinal headache than I am of pain. But, I also always follow up by saying I'm not 100% opposed to an epidural, I'd just prefer not to have one.
I also make very sure that I'm careful to not judge people who choose to have an epidural. Just like I don't want comments from them, I'm sure they have (at some point) had to endure comments about how the epidural is bad, etc.
We started our Bradley Method classes last week. Most of the people I mention it to are supportive (or even admitted a little envious that the hubs is that committed to going through the training and the 12 week course). We also plan to cloth diaper, exclusively breastfeed, and I may possibly leave a lucrative career to be a SAHM, so we get a lot of opinions on everything! Frankly, I am pretty tired of it.
IMO, your labor and delivery and parenting style is a completely personal choice, and should not be scrutinized or judged. Your decisions are exactly that- decisions for you- not others. If you haven't already started your classes (and I would highly recommend them if you can take them), you will probably be comforted when they begin and you are surrounded by a group of like-minded couples.
My irritiation depends on 'who' the advice is coming from. My MIL acts like she is an OB and always tells me what to expect (it never happens). Her "birth story" always changes too, depending on what we have decided to do. One day she was talking about how she was in labor for days and needed drugs and then once we told her about our plans it all of a sudden become a "great experience-completely natural and quick"
Yes, I got lots of horrible comments. My favorite being "you know, you won't get a medal for it". It wasn't like I threw it out there, but people always asked if I was planning on getting an epidural.
My best advice? Surround yourself with encourging supportive people, both IRL and on line. Build yourself a support group. Look into Bradley/Natural Birth Yahoo groups. Find a place to go to get that extra support when you need it most. Also, read tons and tons of natural birth stories.
Once I found a group of like minded moms and read lots of birth stories, I felt secure enough in myself that I was able to take on the naysayers...and let me tell ya...if felt great to prove them wrong!
Joaquin's hospital and Isela's birth center med & intervention free "hypnobabies" birth stories
We're on week 7 of our Bradley Classes and I feel like I have learned so much already. i feel so strong in there, then when I step back into my work place, I'm attacked! Women are SOOOO catty haha. I'm even having a woman who's never had children giving me advice.
My mother doesn't understand WHY I want to go drug free, but supports it. She says it's my birth, but not to try to be a "hero" My MIL has absolutely NO confidence in me and often makes snide remarks of "You hope" when I say to a family member who asks that I am going to do it without an epidural.
A lot of people have made comments that you can't go in there saying NO epidural, because WHAT IF something bad happens and you need a c-section, then you're whole plan is ruined.
From my perspective, if I walk in there allowing an epidural to be an option during a normal birth...I will end up with one. But if I don't allow it to be an option unless, God forbid, I need a c-section, then I will be less likely to get one. They keep telling me to always make it an option, but if you want a truly natural birth..leaving it as an option is going to lead to getting one anyway.
Thanks for your note! It's nice to not be the only one who is looked at like a lunatic. My Bradley class mates aren't really facing these things because they are either housewives or SAHM's who don't deal with the constant unsolicited advice at work every day!
I had an epi with my 1st and the experience was horrifying. I knew I'd never get another. Yet, everyone told me I'd never be able to do it, just try the epi again, etc, etc.
It's amazing what one bad experience will do for a person. I did have my 2nd without an epi and it was pretty easy. I asked for it once...my OB said she'd order it, but asked if I really wanted to risk all of those problems again. Nope. That was that.
Even knowing what I went through before, people refused to believe I could do it.
The "try it again" advice was my favorite. OK....here is a kick in the teeth. Hurts, right? Wait...let me try it again. Maybe this time it won't hurt. There are some things you know not to do a 2nd time and, for me, the epidural is one of them!
The worst (which I get from my MIL) is that "this all sounds great- in THEORY". As if as soon as labor begins my mind will go blank and I will mindlessly agree with anything and everything the nurse/OB/tech/phlebotomist/janitor or whoever the hell else happens to be in the room suggests!
I've got news- theories are good! Einstein and Newton has theories and they won freaking nobel prizes. Yet, we get scrutinized for our "theories".
My mom is very supportive, but she is into everything holistic and alternative medicine. It makes things easier. Have fun in class!
I had a c-section as I was told of a small pelvis (entirly bull ***) I have always wanted natural. As you I am also very opinionated. I don't care if it screws things up or not......Its YOUR baby and more power to you for sticking to your guns. But you ought to be careful of doctors who feel we become an inconveniece to them by staying in labor for longer than their usual convenient shift.......because they will try to use every fvckin' excuse in the world to get over u (can u tell i had a bad experince?) sorry but it irritates me that people think we are toys who can be cut and sliced and be shoved up with needles anywhere they like. ughhhh
So I told my best friend that I wanted to go VBAC this time. She had a natural birth and hated it I guess. She said I am CRAAAAZZZZZZYYY!
So people and anyone close to you will tell you shiit but don't believe it. God is with you, our labor dust is with you whenever you will need it.
Your body is MEANT to do this, Otherwise why would you have the ability to give birth and not your huband (the strong men they are called) whewwwww!!!!!
With my first child, I *hoped* for a natural childbirth. But... since I had never had a contraction or given birth before, my response to those who asked was "I've never had a baby before, so I really can't decide until I'm in that room and know what it feels like to have a baby." No one can argue with that since you aren't declaring your decision.
And, it's true - you can hope and prepare for this or that, but until you are in the situation, you can't be sure what will work. I thought for sure the shower would be my #1 relief, but once I got in there, the feeling of the water on my skin annoyed the crap out of me. Who knew?
P.S. I did have a natural childbirth - in 2.5 hours! It was a great experience and I am crossing my fingers that this baby will be as cooperative.
I am planning on a natural birth with a midwife. I know it's going to hurt, i know i might think i'm going to die- but the truth is no one has ever died from pain have they? lol... i am researching as much as i can and I am taking classes soon. My sister (even living a very natural lifestyle) thought I was weird until I talked with her about all my reasons why and feelings about it. Then she did a complete 180, looked at me and said she was proud of me and if she could do it over she would do it that way too...
I try not to judge other people's birth plans or anything because I hate being judged. It is a personal thing- I may have very passionate views on it but my friend is very pregnant right now, due next month and I know she's going to get an epidural, etc.... and I would never tell her she's crazy. That is just RUDE.
I also think natural birth and the success of it depends on how relaxed you are, how much support you have during labor, etc... I know it would be much harder to me to have a happily natural birth with harsh lighting, stress, people screaming at me to push! etc.
The worst thing so far that two women said to me, both moms, was when an episiotomy was mentioned and I said i wasn't getting one. They both were like, "what? you'll change your mind!" and i was like, no, i won't. If i tear, i tear but i'm hoping that won't happen and there's a strong chance i might not. they were like, "you'll tear. you'll definetely tear." really? Do you know how my vag and perenial area work? My midwife says that sutures are the thing she's "worst at" (said with a laugh) because she rarely has to do them. Hm.... I know it's catty but I just want to prove them wrong- plus, i don't want someone stitching up my crotch unless they have to.
Good luck and just keep strong, no matter what people may say to you. it is your life, your baby and you have to prepared for the crazy looks and rude comments because we are definetely in the minority when it comes to this subject. I hope it works out for you all!
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If you put your mind to it, it most certainly can be done. You were designed to give birth!
I'm doing Bradley classes, but not completely outlawing the epidural. I'm a huge wuss, and while I really want to go natural, I really have no idea what will happen, and I'm open to all possibilities.
On the other hand, I get crap from a lot of my friend who keep telling me I'll never make it without an epidural. "oh just you wait!" "why are you even bothering to take those expensive classes? Just get the epidural and be over with it."
I just smile and nod. I've decided I'm not going to please everyone, and I really don't give a crap. My OB is on board with natural birth, and she's the only person who I actually care about what she thinks!
ETA: just another thought though - be mindful of people who do want the epidural too. Think of how annoyed you are when people judge your decisions, and put the shoe on the other foot. Just saying this because I have a good friend who is 6 weeks behind me, and she is completely opposite from me, she wants the epidural, she plans on using disposable diapers, etc....every mother has to make the choices that she feels are best for her and her baby - and no one wants to be judged for them!
I think it is great that you have your plan. I hope it will work out for you. It might not go to plan and that is okay. All that really matters is that you have a healthy baby.
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We just had a friend give labour on Tuesday and she did a amazing no drugs nothing. She also did everything she could in her pregnancy to make it easy. Prenatal yoga chiropractor appointments and ate healthy. Which is exactly what I'm doing. And she was all natural.
I am also looking into hypnobirthing.
A lot of women think why the hell would you want to feel that pain?!? Well I feel that I want to know what's going on down there and know when to push instead of being frozen.
I also want to be able to walk around and use massage to help with the pain.
Remember the pain is only there for a little while and if you educate yourself which you are doing you will do great!!
Stay positive and look at it as a positive wonderful experience!
Good luck!
So be aware that "changing your mind" is allowed and sometimes encouraged for the health of you and baby. Flexibility will help you during labor & parenting. Never say never!
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Honestly, I think a lot of it is that people like to have other people validate their choices. They chose an epidural, so they want you to choose one too. Maybe they wish they hadn't had it, maybe they are jealous that you're willing to try without one. Maybe they just know that handling pain like that without medication is not a decision they'd ever make, so they can't really understand your choice.
I also make very sure that I'm careful to not judge people who choose to have an epidural. Just like I don't want comments from them, I'm sure they have (at some point) had to endure comments about how the epidural is bad, etc.
This is pretty rude too, actually more so than the OPs complaints.People say these things because usually they have your best interest in mind whereas you are in charge of keeping your baby safe.
Labor is HARD even with an epi. With my first I was open to going either way, 12 hours in DH whispered to me please get the epi, I can't watch you in pain anymore. And I was ready too.
You basically sound like a 17 yo saying Haters goin Hate.
There's nothing wrong with an epi and nothing wrong with any choices we make as moms as long as we do our own research and choose what is best for our bodies and our babies.
What we don't need is other Women telling us we are just trying to make ourselves feel less guilty by telling our experiences and opinions.
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