Update: on we have to put one of our dogs down.

palm513 · August 2013

So since I really didn't want to have to put Rocky put down. I went to our vet and he won't do anything for an anxious/aggressive dog other than recommend more obedience training. I called a few others and they were all "well he isn't our usual patient so you will have to pay a new patient charge in addition to the evaluation. But if he bit someone and drew blood he should probably just be put down anyway' which really bothered me as advise, but it was prolly just the receptionists, and I live in horse country and most vets specialize in horses and many only treat horses...

Anyway, I decided to make a list of everything that has happened in the last month with the dogs, and I noticed that in their mid day exercise sessions Teka has been steeling our fetch stick and hiding it under the house cutting them a little short(only about 10 - 15 minutes) cause Rocky won't go take it from her and I can't. So we have decided that we are going to lock her in the house when Rocky is getting his exercise and let her out play with them together and then just give her a ton of attention sine that is all she ever really wants anyway. We are also planning on adding another lap around the block to his nightly walks(would do it for both but I don't think I could handle it and, as of right now he is way to much of a handful he needs one on one walks.

We are going to give this 4 weeks and if we see an improvement continue, but if we don't and can't find anyone willing to take him we will have to put him down. Because, the twins are so young, until he calms down we are going to keep him exclusively outside which will not bother him. I usually fight him to get him inside(we live on an acre of land that is fully fenced in, and there is plenty of shade and they have access in and out via a rather large doggie door on our shed which has an A/C unit in it, it is set to 77 which is warmer than the house but still comfortable).

CousinVicki · August 2013

omg. i just commented in your first post about this. if the dogs are peeing in the house and jumping on things, not listening they are NOT TRAINED, therefore there is no pack order (As in you should be alpha!). This is YOUR FAULT, not the dogs. you haven't put enough time into this, and just letting the dog 'live outside' sickens me, this is going to add to your problems. and truly, i think you made up your mind about this already.

as for the dog biting your husband, you said this was in the middle or immediately following a dog fight, so i don't know if the dog was necessarily being aggressive or just confused/ heat of the moment. i think you just want one less dog, and are taking the ""easy"" way out. and as i said in the other post, if your dogs live "outside" please rehome ALL OF THEM. this is no way to keep pets, regardless of them "loving it" whatever!

between this post and the snake shooting, i am side-eying this board hardcore

tmccord21 · August 2013

Snake shooting? Say what?

@palm513 I'm happy you are giving him another shot and trying to give him some more exercise. It sounds like he has what he needs if you must keep him outside but I think that will only hurt your progress. And 4wks is not a sufficient amount of time to see a turn around. Again, Please please please rehome him. Do not put him down.

asilwhite · August 2013

I didn't even comment on this yesterday because people were expressing the exact same feelings as me, but seriously, you're not going to get any support here. You're trying to justify you putting your dog down over behavioral issues again and that is just wrong. I know you're trying to give him a chance, but 4 weeks isn't enough time at all with a dog who has this type of behavioral issues. And you need to work with him every.single.day to see something too.

As the pet owner it is YOUR responsibility to train your dog and deal with any behavioral problems. I think I remember you saying this is a German Shepard. They are extremely intelligent dogs who need a lot of attention and exercise and banishing him to the outside and not giving him the attention he deserves is messed up. Also, your husband got bit after interfering in a dog fight. It's apparent to me your dog is the alpha and was probably pissed your husband interfered with him displaying his dominance, so he showed your husband who is boss. Again, that is your fault that he is dominating your household.

PLEASE do not put your dog down because you don't want to deal with his behavioral problem. I understand you have kids and their safety is their priority, but it sounds like you could have nipped this in the bud a LONG time ago and you're just taking the easy way out after 4 weeks if you don't see a difference.

And I agree with CV here, dogs should not live outside. Why would you have a dog as a pet if you're treating them like this (says the woman whose doberman is snuggled up on her feet at her desk).

CousinVicki · August 2013

also, just saw in your other post, you adopted htis dog a year ago after ANOTHER person got rid of him who "couldn't deal with him" , didn't you know what you were getting into? This dog clearly has issues, and needs some serious training. our current dog was adopted and given back THREE TIMES when we got him due to being high needs and peeing in the house. we knew what we were getting into and worked with him diligently-- and still have him 7 years later. dogs take work, especially ones who have trust issues and are 'given up on' over and over. wtf

JLW0504 · August 2013

If your dog is a German Shepherd( I have only half-assed paid attention to this post) why not ask your local PD if they would adopt the dog? If not, maybe they know another dept. who would.

palm513 · August 2013

The dogs won't come into the house, I make them come in for baths every couple days and anytime it is just plain to hot outside... and then I have to bribe them with food... they get plenty of attention... me and the twins go outside and play with them for a few hours every afternoon giving them the option to come in when we do but they NEVER take it, and on the rare chance they do they are at the door begging to be released within five minutes of coming in... they act as if being inside is a jail. And, frankly I don't blame them especially with the twins, they torture them when they are inside and they have no place to escape(even though they never liked being inside before I got them)... I love them all THREE dearly and we only ever have any real problems with Rocky, but that is not our fault it is because the people who ditched him on us knew he was a "natural leader" meaning he had dominance issues at 16 weeks old and they ignored it for two years until they couldn't anymore and that is where we got him... He has made a ton of improvement and we have been working with him very persistently with his dominance issues, I have said many times he has dominance issues and has a trainer/behaviorist that comes here to work with him weekly. My husband is the one that works with him more as I am usually busy with the kids when the trainer is here, which is why I believe his aggression is geared more toward my husband. And YES the fight wednesday night was right after a fight with the other dogs, but the one two weeks ago, was over my husband refusing to feed him until he could stop trying to rip the food out of his hand... and another one was he got out of our yard and I caught him by the collar to lead him back to the house and he turned and bite me without even looking to see who I was... Yes there is a lot of back story that I haven't said why because he has been troubled his whole life and his previous owners didn't give a crap and their neighbors abused him... which just adds a lot more crap we have to deal with in a dog we didn't want in the first place but it was us take them or they go to the pound then....

CousinVicki · August 2013

so the dog was ABUSED, and had aggression issues but you took him in anyway and now, yet again, are giving up on him?? way to repeat the cycle. and why is it just now i am hearing about meeting with a trainer 'once a week' ????? didnt you just call a trainer who said no? i am confused

also, now that i know the breed, call a BREED SPECIFIC RESCUE, they will take him. this is not that hard to figure out.

Jules122907 · August 2013

Ok, I'm going to stay out of the aggression issues side of this post. But, I do have to comment that not all dogs and all breeds are house dogs. We live on a cattle farm and have cattle dogs. They are bred and trained to work livestock. They are extremely proud of their job and protective of our herd. There is no way I could get them to stay in the house. They have the barn and access to a heated office in the winter. They would literally try and claw their way out of the house if I tried to keep them in the house. They like to be close to the cattle and patrol the pastures. We spend the majority of our days outside so they are with us most of the day and get plenty of human interaction.

Skyjewell23 · August 2013

My dog is my family, you don't treat family like this ever. End of story. I would never put a dog down due to behavioral issues.

CousinVicki · August 2013

also, it seems the incidents of aggression revolved around a dog fight and food, not just "hey i am going to attack you for no reason" , so this seems to be totally fixable and not innate dog aggression. and you not being involved with the training (if he even had this???) is bad news.

beccabrad · August 2013

I didn't even read your other post b/c I thought it was in regard to some debilitating disease. You don't put pets down b/c you're tired of dealing with them which is essentially what you were trying to do. Have you not ever watched the Dog Whisperer? Many dogs have issues that are fixable but you have to be willing to work to fix them. This poor dog and what he has been through and here he is again with someone else giving up on him. Most of the time, it's the owners that need the training and in this case I think that is true. You need to seek out a better behavioral specialist, maybe one who specializes in German Shepherds and LISTEN to them.

CMireles2 · August 2013

Now that more information is being presented (again), I would have to change my previous answer. Your dog is for sure thinking he is the pack leader, and by no means is that the dogs fault! Those are strong willed dogs which need a lot of attention and training (really like any dog needs). Even if a trainer comes once a week, with an abused dog it takes way more effort than that! We've had my two dogs (lab and pitbull) since they were 8 weeks old, they are now 2. We STILL have to put a lot of work into showing them who is pack leader and training. It's a lifetime commitment. And they probably won't come in the house because of your kids picking on them, even if they wanted to be inside they can't! That's HORRIBLE! My niece is 1.5 years and she's already learning how to act around our dogs...

sleepy33 · August 2013

Jules122907 said:

Ok, I'm going to stay out of the aggression issues side of this post. But, I do have to comment that not all dogs and all breeds are house dogs. We live on a cattle farm and have cattle dogs. They are bred and trained to work livestock. They are extremely proud of their job and protective of our herd. There is no way I could get them to stay in the house. They have the barn and access to a heated office in the winter. They would literally try and claw their way out of the house if I tried to keep them in the house. They like to be close to the cattle and patrol the pastures. We spend the majority of our days outside so they are with us most of the day and get plenty of human interaction.

I own a cattle dog mix, and used to have horses, so I agree with you for sure, but I think there is obviously a difference between working dogs and dogs left out in a yard all day w/ nothing to do.

Jules122907 · August 2013

sleepy33 said:

Jules122907 said:

Ok, I'm going to stay out of the aggression issues side of this post. But, I do have to comment that not all dogs and all breeds are house dogs. We live on a cattle farm and have cattle dogs. They are bred and trained to work livestock. They are extremely proud of their job and protective of our herd. There is no way I could get them to stay in the house. They have the barn and access to a heated office in the winter. They would literally try and claw their way out of the house if I tried to keep them in the house. They like to be close to the cattle and patrol the pastures. We spend the majority of our days outside so they are with us most of the day and get plenty of human interaction.

I own a cattle dog mix, and used to have horses, so I agree with you for sure, but I think there is obviously a difference between working dogs and dogs left out in a yard all day w/ nothing to do.

I totally agree! I'm referencing the other post where it was stated that all dogs need to be in the house/close to their pack and again above where two people stated that dogs should not live outside. Broad sweeping, blanket statements are not necessary. We have happy, healthy, well treated dogs and in no way are they abused by living outside.

CMireles2 · August 2013

Jules122907 said:

sleepy33 said:

Jules122907 said:

Ok, I'm going to stay out of the aggression issues side of this post. But, I do have to comment that not all dogs and all breeds are house dogs. We live on a cattle farm and have cattle dogs. They are bred and trained to work livestock. They are extremely proud of their job and protective of our herd. There is no way I could get them to stay in the house. They have the barn and access to a heated office in the winter. They would literally try and claw their way out of the house if I tried to keep them in the house. They like to be close to the cattle and patrol the pastures. We spend the majority of our days outside so they are with us most of the day and get plenty of human interaction.

I own a cattle dog mix, and used to have horses, so I agree with you for sure, but I think there is obviously a difference between working dogs and dogs left out in a yard all day w/ nothing to do.

I totally agree! I'm referencing the other post where it was stated that all dogs need to be in the house/close to their pack and again above where two people stated that dogs should not live outside. Broad sweeping, blanket statements are not necessary. We have happy, healthy, well treated dogs and in no way are they abused by living outside.

Those are working dogs, completely different. And like I stated maybe on the 1st thread, it also depends on the breed and personality of the dog. Some can thrive like tgat. Me personally, I wouldn't keep my dogs (which are strictly fur babies) outside. But when you try to get your dogs to come inside where there are children who pick on them... I'd stay outside as well. That's pretty cruel.

CousinVicki · August 2013

why do i have to keep referencing these memes lately:

and, are these your dogs? because this is pretty much what i envision.

allurea · August 2013

Our German Shepherd was returned to the shelter 2 times by the time he was 6 months old. He was actually born at the shelter and was the only one that kept getting returned of the litter. He had some issues for sure and still does, but he is a sweet boy and just needed the time and effort put in to get him trained. Sure he still has some issues, but they are being worked on and you can see improvement with him on a constant basis.

It takes a minimum of an hour a night to go over his training and it includes simple things like having him sit while we put his food in his dish, and not releasing him to eat until we say so. The reason we do this is because he gets aggressive about his food whenever the other dog or the cats are in the same room, let alone walking by him, so if he growls or snarls, he does not get his food then because he needs to learn that we are in charge and that behaviour is unacceptable.

He also had a huge problem with possession of his toys and when we brought the new puppy into the house it became very apparent that that needed to be stopped right away. We've only had the new puppy for 2 months and guess what? No more problems with his toys, he shares them with the puppy and everything, but it took a lot of strict work.

I'm sorry to say, but to me it sounds like there is not enough time going into training this dog, or the training that is being done is not the correct type needed.

As for your twins, you need to teach them to leave the dogs alone and to treat the dogs with respect. I'd hate to hear that one of your kids decided to pull the dogs tail and end up bitten because they didn't know any better.

ETA: And just for reference, our German Shepherd thought he was the Alpha when we brought him home, but we broke him of that notion really freaking quickly.

taylormarie923 · August 2013

I really don't have much to add to what has already been said. The one glaring detail that stood out to me is that your daily walks are not helping the situation if you are not capable of controlling that situation. Maybe look into a gentle leader? You should be able to walk all three of your dogs at the same time with no problem. If you cannot, then you are not doing it correctly. Allowing him to control the walk is further proving to him that he is the leader.

MtnChickaD · August 2013

Man you all have obviously never been in rural areas or the south. People keep their dogs in kennels, not just outside but in cages. Their dogs aren't family, they are tools. Not everyone has the "our dog is our child" mentality, not in this country and definitely not globally. Dogs CAN be outside and be happy, just like dogs can be kept inside, treated like humans and be VERY unhappy.

CousinVicki · August 2013

MtnChickaD said:

Man you all have obviously never been in rural areas or the south. People keep their dogs in kennels, not just outside but in cages. Their dogs aren't family, they are tools. Not everyone has the "our dog is our child" mentality, not in this country and definitely not globally. Dogs CAN be outside and be happy, just like dogs can be kept inside, treated like humans and be VERY unhappy.

you also have this in the south. too bad i don't live there! yeeehaww!

allurea · August 2013

MtnChickaD said:

Man you all have obviously never been in rural areas or the south. People keep their dogs in kennels, not just outside but in cages. Their dogs aren't family, they are tools. Not everyone has the "our dog is our child" mentality, not in this country and definitely not globally. Dogs CAN be outside and be happy, just like dogs can be kept inside, treated like humans and be VERY unhappy.

I have nothing against dogs being kept outside as long as it's done properly. I do have a problem with it being done as a sort of "I can't handle training this dog" last resort.

palm513 · August 2013

Okay, do you want the play by play of his daily schedule so you can tell me exactly what we are doing wrong because I am apparently not doing it right and our trainer and behaviorist aren't good enough or addressing the correct issues... Anyway, this is the dogs schedule:

7:30 am: breakfast(we hold the dogs all back from the dishes make them sit and wait until they are all calm, then fill their dishes, and as soon as wee are ready let them go to their dish and eat their food if they growl or snarl at either of the other dogs they lose their food and have to get off the porch(which is where they eat).

9:30 am - 11:30 am: me and the twins go out side to play, they each get some one on one attention and we play fetch and the twins chase them and they chase the twins.

11:30 am - 12:30 pm: they are invited into the house if they would like to(during this time the twins eat lunch, and go down for their nap)

12:30 pm - 1:45 pm: Rocky, gets exercise (we mostly play fetch, but Teka has been disturbing this time, and we are going to start making her stay in the house, until 1:30 because she is lazy and won't play she just likes stealing all the toys and hiding them under the house, Yoggie is the same way, he likes to just lounge around and be pet).

5:00 pm: trainer comes on mondays.

6:00 pm: they get fed again, with the same routine as in the morning.

7:30 pm - 8:00 pm: we all 7 go for a walk(I push the stroller and walk Yoggie and Teka, and my husband walks Rocky because he has to be continually reminded that he isn't in charge, at least the first block. We are adding a lap around the block to Rockies routine while I lean up the kitchen after dinner.

8:00 pm - 9:30 pm: Tuesdays and Fridays they get a bath.

9:30 pm: if the dogs chose to come in the house after their walk they get let back outside.

Any time during the day we have any problem with him he gets put into submission, immediately (most of the time by me even though I am not actually present during his training sessions), even if it is just the littlest thing....

Also, in the last line of the last post I asked if you had any advise on what else I could do, because at the time I was drawing a blank on what else we could do for him.

Also, yes we are working with the twins and the dogs, and they have gotten A LOT better with them, but they are still a little ruff, especially when they are in the house because they usually just lounge around inside. For the first few minutes, and then they run to the window and then the door and scratch at it until we let them back out.

Also, none of the dogs liked being in the house before we got them, so the twins aren't the only reason they never come in. And I have an acre of land and they have free run of all of it. (Yes, I live in the middle of nowhere about 8 miles from town).

CousinVicki · August 2013

please just call a breed specific rescue.

palm513 · August 2013

CousinVicki said:

please just call a breed specific rescue.

I have... several times they aren't answering the phone, and their answering machine give a message of "I am out of memory, please call back later" and they haven't replied to my E-mails yet other than the auto response of "we have received your E-mail and one of our representatives will get back to you as soon as possible"....

CousinVicki · August 2013

palm513 said:

CousinVicki said:

please just call a breed specific rescue.

I have... several times they aren't answering the phone, and their answering machine give a message of "I am out of memory, please call back later" and they haven't replied to my E-mails yet other than the auto response of "we have received your E-mail and one of our representatives will get back to you as soon as possible"....

well hopefully you can hold out a bit longer before killing your dog.

palm513 · August 2013

Also, don't you think IF I really didn't care about the dog, and just wanted an easy way out I would have had him put to sleep by now? I mean when he attacked my husband was two days ago... and it isn't like the human society is closed on thursdays, and our will put a dog to sleep for free if it has bitten.

Also, why would I have waited until he had bit several times and drawn blood three(I noticed this morning my husband has huge teeth marks on his chest from being bit on tuesday night, which he neglected to mention to me... until now cause 'I knew he was bit the mark wasn't important') times, if I just wanted an easy way out.

CousinVicki · August 2013

palm513 said:

Also, don't you think IF I really didn't care about the dog, and just wanted an easy way out I would have had him put to sleep by now? I mean when he attacked my husband was two days ago... and it isn't like the human society is closed on thursdays, and our will put a dog to sleep for free if it has bitten.

Also, why would I have waited until he had bit several times and drawn blood three(I noticed this morning my husband has huge teeth marks on his chest from being bit on tuesday night, which he neglected to mention to me... until now cause 'I knew he was bit the mark wasn't important') times, if I just wanted an easy way out.

right, instead just chaining your dog to a tree is a better option!

palm513 · August 2013

CousinVicki said:

palm513 said:

CousinVicki said:

please just call a breed specific rescue.

I have... several times they aren't answering the phone, and their answering machine give a message of "I am out of memory, please call back later" and they haven't replied to my E-mails yet other than the auto response of "we have received your E-mail and one of our representatives will get back to you as soon as possible"....

well hopefully you can hold out a bit longer before killing your dog.

I have already said I was going to keep him for four weeks, add to his exercise routine, and if he can go that long with out really bitting anyone, or even calm down some more we will keep him. Unless I can find someone/someplace that is willing to take him and take over his training routine, preferably someone with no children and no other dogs... or experience.

palm513 · August 2013

CousinVicki said:

palm513 said:

Also, don't you think IF I really didn't care about the dog, and just wanted an easy way out I would have had him put to sleep by now? I mean when he attacked my husband was two days ago... and it isn't like the human society is closed on thursdays, and our will put a dog to sleep for free if it has bitten.

Also, why would I have waited until he had bit several times and drawn blood three(I noticed this morning my husband has huge teeth marks on his chest from being bit on tuesday night, which he neglected to mention to me... until now cause 'I knew he was bit the mark wasn't important') times, if I just wanted an easy way out.

right, instead just chaining your dog to a tree is a better option!

He was only their for a few hours and that was to keep him separate from the other dogs until he calmed down. Which he was put into submission, before he was chained and after two hours of calming techniques he was still VERY anxious and snarling and growling... after he had time to calm down he was re-put in submission and then released the same night... and he wasn't necessarily chained to a tree he was on an old runner that is was in our back yard from before we moved in, and I hope before the fences were put up.

Jalee85 · August 2013

Well, I purposely avoided the original thread because I thought it was about a dog that had gotten sick and needed to be euthenized.... That kind of stuff makes me really sad so I try to avoid it!

However, the update really got me curious ( I mean why does someone have to update their dog being euthenized!) so even though I haven't read through everything I CAN'T it's so ridiculous. I just need to get a few things of my chest! I grew my whole life with German Shepards and I love the breed to pieces! I don't believe there is a single dog out there that is unable to be controlled through a animal behaviorist to me if you have had all of this help and are still having issues you are simply not working the program!

I was reading your schedule and as soon as you said you "INVITE" your dogs in to your house for an alloted amount of time I stopped reading it! Dogs if they are true indoor dogs do not get "invited" in! They either want in or they dont'! So this tells me right here that you are most likely not letting them in your home very often they have learned to be outside and don't want to come in because it's miserable!

I want to say that I am glad you are going to give it another try, but I really think that 2 months isn't a long enough time to expect any super big changes! Even if you are really trying very hard let alone if you are really not.

My Mom used to deal with really hard cases she wasn't a behavioral specialist but she understood dogs well enough to do similar types of training (she was a dog obedience instructor though) we had a lot of hard cases, but the thing is when that animals where with us they didn't behave "that" badly, the minute the owner was out the equation. Unless it was a fear issue from abuse or something! We could work with them for a week and have the owner come back and shit would hit the fan! So after a few dogs we just started only doing training while the owners where there! I don't see why the breed specific group isn't answering your phone call back, but keep trying!

allurea · August 2013

Having a trainer work with the dog is great, but what you need to ask yourself is if it's working, and if the answer is no, than you might need to look into finding a different trainer that uses different techniques. I don't know how long you have been working with this particular trainer, but from the sounds of things it's been long enough that you should be seeing results for what are pretty normal behavioural issues.

Check out https://www.cesarsway.com/ and search around the site. He has some fantastic information on dealing with various training and behaviour issues, most of which you or your husband should be able to do yourselves.

palm513 · August 2013

The dog has actually improved A LOT since we have had him it is just the all of a sudden fits of bitting people that has us worried... he has never had this specific problem before... when we first got him no one could go near him, and the sight of a leash had him ballistic...

CousinVicki · August 2013

palm513 said:

The dog has actually improved A LOT since we have had him it is just the all of a sudden fits of bitting people that has us worried... he has never had this specific problem before... when we first got him no one could go near him, and the sight of a leash had him ballistic...

again, the incidents you talked about involved a dog fight and FOOD, two major triggers for ANY dog. this wasn't just a random attack. are you not getting this????

allurea · August 2013

palm513 said:

The dog has actually improved A LOT since we have had him it is just the all of a sudden fits of bitting people that has us worried... he has never had this specific problem before... when we first got him no one could go near him, and the sight of a leash had him ballistic...

Absolutely bring this up with the trainer and don't leave out a single detail. You mentioned the attacks were after a dog fight and over food, these are things that can be addressed, usually in a fairly short order of time. Stress to the trainer that this needs to be resolved immediately and make sure you are diligent with the training that needs to be done to fix it.

twinkets · August 2013

Okay, I have to jump in on this one. Reading over your schedule I see that the trainer comes for just 1 hour 1 day a week. So where all throughout the week are you taking the time out to focus on this training. It can't just be once a week and done kind of thing. Training a dog with behavioral issues takes CONSTANT attention to detail when you are with the dog and consistency from your entire family. You can't be treating him differently than your husband does, you have to have a set routine and rules all day. Especially when it comes to a German Shepherd, they are VERY smart and require a lot of stimulation. You will have to work with this dog every day and if you truly care for his well being then you are going to have to toughen up and accept that it will be hard and take longer than just 4 weeks. You are going to have to be firm, and guess what, you are probably going to get bit more than a few times. No trainer has ever worked with an aggressive dog and gone bite free. Your children need to know their boundaries with him. Anyone who says my dog would never bite is a liar. They are animals and will react that way when triggered, especially if your children are "torturing" him. If you're worried about the safety of your family then find a home for the dog, but don't put him down just because you don't have the time to dedicate to his rehabilitation. There are people that take in animals from all over the US. I have personally fostered and homed tons of "aggressive" breed dogs and there are people willing to work with the animals that need help. Look further than just your local shelter. Do some serious research if you really want to spare Rocky's life. I promise you if you look hard enough there is definitely another way than euthanizing him.

palm513 · August 2013

To anyone that still cares... I found someone willing to take the dog... He had a german shepherd for 10 years until he died in may. Rocky took right to him, and he LOVED rocky. He has a fenced in yard and, no kids, or other dogs.

CousinVicki · August 2013

palm513 said:

To anyone that still cares... I found someone willing to take the dog... He had a german shepherd for 10 years until he died in may. Rocky took right to him, and he LOVED rocky. He has a fenced in yard and, no kids, or other dogs.

well, that moved fast (as i said you had already clearly made up your mind). i also am doubtful if this actually happened, especially SO fast, literally overnight??? is he going to be actually living inside or in the 'fenced yard' ugh

palm513 · August 2013

CousinVicki said:

palm513 said:

To anyone that still cares... I found someone willing to take the dog... He had a german shepherd for 10 years until he died in may. Rocky took right to him, and he LOVED rocky. He has a fenced in yard and, no kids, or other dogs.

well, that moved fast (as i said you had already clearly made up your mind). i also am doubtful if this actually happened, especially SO fast, literally overnight??? is he going to be actually living inside or in the 'fenced yard' ugh

Inside when he is home and outside while he is at work..

tmccord21 · August 2013

palm513 said:

CousinVicki said:

palm513 said:

To anyone that still cares... I found someone willing to take the dog... He had a german shepherd for 10 years until he died in may. Rocky took right to him, and he LOVED rocky. He has a fenced in yard and, no kids, or other dogs.

well, that moved fast (as i said you had already clearly made up your mind). i also am doubtful if this actually happened, especially SO fast, literally overnight??? is he going to be actually living inside or in the 'fenced yard' ugh

Inside when he is home and outside while he is at work..

Not sure why he needs to be outside when the guy is at work but i'm happy he isn't being put down. Hope he gives him the love he needs.

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Update: on we have to put one of our dogs down.

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