September 2013 Moms

A depressing WWYD

My dad is officially losing his battle with cancer. He's been fighting for two years but at this point, he has exhausted all treatment options and the cancer has become aggressive and is spreading quickly. Last week his blood pressure got dangerously low along with a few other issues and we honestly thought we were going to lose him then. He is much more stable now and at this point the plan is just to manage the pain and we are moving him to a nursing facility since he needs around the clock care.

The dilemma is that we don't really know how long we have left with him. I spoke with my OB this week just to see if she had any suggestions for managing the stress and making sure it doesn't affect the baby. She said that the baby would be fine and is well protected but she also said that she would be willing to consider an induction at 39 weeks. This is something that we can't really decide until it gets closer to that time because anything can happen with my dad between now and then. I have to admit though, I'm a little reluctant just because while I am pretty open to all interventions I still wanted to see how things happened on their own. But I really want my dad to be able to meet our little one. We went through this process last year with my mom so I'm kind of aware of the warning signs that the body is shutting down, but each person is different so it could happen at a slower or faster rate.

So would you consider an induction in this situation? I know this is something my husband and I have to actually decide ourselves but I could use some clear heads to talk through this.   
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  • I'm sorry you have to be put in such a tough situation. As you know, only you can make the hard decision. I would suggest playing it by ear, maybe getting an ultrasound to check on size, and having a frank discussion with your doctor about the safety of everything so you are very informed on the decision. Maybe LO will decide to come early on his/her own and you won't have to make the tough decision!
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  • I am so sorry for what you are going through.  Wow.  Cancer really sucks.  Regardless, I would probably talk to my family about this one.  A big part of me says let that baby come naturally if at all possible, but I understand the desire to have your dad to meet your LO.  This is truly a personal struggle and I don't think I can even guide you on what decision to make.  I just know that if I were in your shoes, I would be talking to my mom and dad about it.

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  • First, I am so very sorry.l about your dad. I actually pushed to get pregnant quicker than I might have (6 months max) because my dad is suffering from lung cancer. Having my dad meet his only grandchild was/is a big deal to me. Lately he has gotten worse and I think about the what ifs and being out in the same situation as you are. Although I greatly understand why you would consider induction I wouldn't do it even if that means your father will not meet his grand child. That is just my personal decision. The only way I would change my mind is if my stress from my father's illness or passing would In fact harm my child. This is not an easy decision that should be taken lightly. I am sorry you are out in this position and I wish you all the best.
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  • I am so sorry you are going through this right now. If it were me, it is just 1week, I would induce so he could see his grandchild. But like you said it's a personal decision, there is no right or wrong answer. Your dad will be a part of you and you child no matter what.

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  • I'm so sorry you're even having to ask this question. We found out my dad had cancer (again) about a week before this BFP. Literally the only thing that's scared me this year is that he wouldn't be able to meet his grandkid. It's such a sickening feeling :(

    I would play it by ear. See how you're doing, how your dad is, how the baby is, and what they think they can do for you that's safe. I wouldn't try to make the decision too far in advance.

    Could you go to an elective u/s place and bring your dad with you? Then he could at least see the baby? I know that's not a huge consolation, but it could be a bonding experience for you.

    Also, I find that people sometimes find a miraculous way of holding on to life when they know something exciting is going to happen. Maybe his health will surprise you.

    Lots of good thoughts to you and your family on this one.
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  • I don't have any advice on this situation but I wanted to say I'm sorry you are going through this and even have to think about whether your dad will get to meet the baby or not.  I'm keeping your family in my thoughts.
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  • I am so sorry you are going through this. My DH lost his father to cancer right after we got pregnant but before we knew we were. He really struggles with knowing that his dad will never meet our LO or even know he exists. Because of that, I would say that if you and your DH and your doctor are comfortable with a week early, maybe consider that option. But it's definitely a decision that needs lots of thought. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Cancer is terrible :(
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  • I am so sorry this is happening to your family. :( As others have said I would try to play it by ear. You've opened the line of communication with your doctor and at least now you know you will have options.
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  • For me, I would consider doing it. Five years from now you won't even think about the induction, but you will always have the memory of your dad meeting your LO. If you, your H, and ob think a good, safe decision then I would do it.

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  • I'm so sorry you're going through this (( hugs )). My mom has non-Hodgkins lymphoma, cancer sucks. If it were me I would consider the induction, but it's a hugely personal decision. I would talk to your doctor about any possible risks and maybe play it by ear and do another ultrasound with him if he's up to it. Again I'm really sorry.


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  • Wishing you peace in whatever decision you decide to make. This is a decision that really can only be made by you, your DH, and doctor. You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.
     

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  • I'd play it by ear but be willing to do a 39 wk induction if you think it will give your father the chance to meet your LO. It could also be something he could live for in those final weeks. I'm SO so so so sorry you're going through this, and that you did with your mother as well. When pregnant with DS my mother was very sick and we thought she'd pass but luckily they finally figured out what was wrong with her and she survived (and is doing great now). I say this just to mention that I have a taste of how stressful it can be to have a sick parent when you're pregnant, but obviously my situation was a lot better than yours because she was able to recover. My thoughts go out to your whole family.

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  • I'm so sorry that you are going through this. I found out my dad had bladder cancer a week after finding out I was pregnant. It really has made me cherish the time that I have with him and I hope that he will get to spend some time with his grandson.

    I think that if I was in your position I would consider having the induction, but at the same time I would have to consider the wellbeing of myself and the baby and ask myself if the baby and I would be able to handle the stress of inducing early AND dealing with my father's illness. I think I would end up ultimately playing it by ear and waiting it out to make a decision because situations can change (baby can come early on its own, father's health can improve) and would take this time to attempt to relax for the rest of my pregnancy.

    I think that sometimes, though we can try to control a situation the best that we can, we have to sit back and accept that the outcome isn't in our hands anymore and hope for the best. I'm sending good thoughts your way, and I wish the best for you and your family.

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  • Im so sorry you're going through this. Thats just heartbreaking. If it were me i would more then likely lean towards inducing. Good luck and please update us. You'll definitely be in my thoughts and prayers.
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  • I am so sorry for your family. My dad passed three years ago shortly after my DS2 was born. I will always be grateful he got to meet my son. I have been induced twice at 39 weeks and had success deliveries and healthy babies. I personally would do it.
  • I would definitely consider this a reason to induce early.

    Family is everything. My grandpa died when dd2 was 10 days old, and even though he was so very out of it, he smiled every time we went to the nursing home and told him that my girls were there. Now, dd2 is 2.5, and even though she obviously doesn't remember him, she likes to see pictures of her as a baby with Gros Papa (German for grandpa)
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  • My FIL is very ill so I've found myself pondering this same thing. Our situation is a little different though and there's hope for him to get a lung transplant. In any case, I just wanted to say I can totally understand how stressful this all is, and what one person might decide is right for them might not be right for the next person. If it were me, I would just have to wait and see - so much can change with health so quickly - both yours and your dad's. I thought the elective ultrasound idea was a great one if that's an option for you. I could personally see myself inducing labor at 39 weeks in order for LO to meet grandpa if the OB thinks everything should be safe for LO - if not, it would be sad, but LO's safety is ultimately the most important thing. Best wishes to you in whatever you decide, and you'll be in my prayers!
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  • I don't have any suggestions, but I wanted to say that I'm sorry that you have to deal with this.
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  • Thank you everyone for your support on this. I hate that so many of you have lost a parent to cancer or have a parent who is dealing with cancer now. It can be such a horrible disease and I hate that so many people have to deal with that.

    To answer a couple of questions, my doctor did offer to do another ultrasound. Which actually made me smile because when I showed my dad my 20 week ultrasound pictures he asked me "Ok, so what am I looking at?". He definitely would not be able to be there as his mobility, mostly due to pain is the biggest issue. One of the tumors is on his back/spine so it is causing a lot of pain whenever he gets moved. But ultimately I don't think this is something that would matter as much to him.

    Also complicating things slightly is that we are team green. I've thought about getting an envelope for him with what we are having (we did the Mat21 test) so that he will know, but he is determined to make it to the birth and I'm afraid that it would upset him more to treat him as if he won't be here.

    We definitely plan to play it by ear though. He is not going to get better, but there is a chance that he will hold on. I honestly don't think we will even make a decision until we get closer to that date but we are thinking about it now. Thank you again for your responses. I will keep you posted.
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  • I can only tell you what I would do. I would personally wait for LO to come on his/her own. I cannot imagine the stress and pressure of inducing labor so that a dying relative could see him/her, but that's just me. I think that whatever decision makes you most comfortable is what you should do.  

    I am so, so sorry you are going through this. It is so hard to watch a loved one be in pain. I hate cancer so, so much. ((hugs))

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  • I'm so sorry you are going through this, my heart aches for you. You have a big choice to make here. As much as I hate to offer you an answer because only you will know in your heart what is right, I will tell you what I would do in your situation.

    First, I lean quite far to the med free side of things and am not very open to interventions that are not eliminating immediate dangers for myself and my babies. BUT, in this circumstance I would consider an induction heavily. 39 weeks is not considered early in regards to development of baby. I personally would also want my father to meet my baby. It would give me a huge sense of joy in such a dark situation. I understand wanting to know how things would go naturally, but for me, that can always be experienced with another child. I would take advantage of the opportunity I have in front of me, which would be giving my Dad the joy of meeting their grandbaby.

    I really wish you peace with whichever choice you make. I cannot fathom the pain and stress you must be living with. Hugs.
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  • I am truly sorry about your Dad. I can't imagine going through that especially with the baby being so close to it's EDD.

    Personally, I would not consider induction.. You don't know if your Dad is going to hang on until your 39 weeks and if he doesn't you may want that extra time to grieve before dealing with you LO on the outside. On the chance that he does he probably will be very ill and won't be able to come see you in the hospital.

    In the end, you have to do what you and your family decides what is best. I definitely understand you wanting your LO to meet your Dad before he passes. This is a very difficult decision and I am sorry you have to make it.
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  • I am so sorry! My thoughts go out to you and your whole family! I personally wouldn't schedule an induction unless it were for outstanding medical reasons. But I can understand the dilemma and you really have to do what is right for you.

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  • My heart breaks for you. I lost my grandfather three years ago due to cancer, and he was like a dad to me. I would have loved to have introduced him to my LO.. whom will have his namesake <3

    I don't have any good advice, but whichever choice you make, I support you. LO will be well into term by that time, and you never know, s/he could make her/his appearance before then, on her/his own. I think the U/S is a great idea. I wouldn't word it as a "just in case" situation, just a "would you like to accompany us" kind of situation. Best of luck to you, you're in my prayers.
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  • I'm sorry you're going through this!

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  • I am so sorry you are going through this. I lost my dad about a year ago to cancer. Watching your parent, especially your daddy, go through this is the worst. My heart absolutely hurts for you and I will definitely be sending thoughts and prayers your way. 

    It is such a hard call to know about induction or not. In my situation, it wouldn't have made a difference. We got news that he was cancer free but still frail from chemo and then a few weeks later we learned that chemo had shut his organs down and he only had a few days left. When we were saying our goodbyes, he said that he had a great life and the only thing he didn't get to do was meet his grandchildren. I know he is looking down on me now and he will in someway have a part in my daughters life but I so wish he could meet her. 

    With that said, I don't think it would be fair of me to give advice on induction or not...I am a FTM and still grieving my dad. I will definitely be praying that you find peace no matter what is decided and that your dad will be able to manage his pain. I am so sorry. Hugs to you! 

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  • I am so sorry to hear about your dad. My mom was battling breast cancer when I was pregnant with DD. we found out when I was 38w that my mom wasn't going to make it more than a week. I begged for an induction but they would not allow it. DD decided she needed to meet her grandma. She was born the next day after we learned about my mom. We were both in the same hospital so the staff made it possible for my mom and daughter to meet. I will be forever grateful for this because my mom passed the following morning. This is something you will never get back and will cherish this day for the rest often life. Best of luck with your decision because I know this is a tough call but for me, I am so fortunate that my mom held her one and only grandchild even if it was only a couple hours.
  • @fhgrl21 That's a miracle! What an inspiring story. Also I'm very sorry for your loss <3 
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  • fhgrl21 said:
    I am so sorry to hear about your dad. My mom was battling breast cancer when I was pregnant with DD. we found out when I was 38w that my mom wasn't going to make it more than a week. I begged for an induction but they would not allow it. DD decided she needed to meet her grandma. She was born the next day after we learned about my mom. We were both in the same hospital so the staff made it possible for my mom and daughter to meet. I will be forever grateful for this because my mom passed the following morning. This is something you will never get back and will cherish this day for the rest often life. Best of luck with your decision because I know this is a tough call but for me, I am so fortunate that my mom held her one and only grandchild even if it was only a couple hours.
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  • fhgrl21 said:
    I am so sorry to hear about your dad. My mom was battling breast cancer when I was pregnant with DD. we found out when I was 38w that my mom wasn't going to make it more than a week. I begged for an induction but they would not allow it. DD decided she needed to meet her grandma. She was born the next day after we learned about my mom. We were both in the same hospital so the staff made it possible for my mom and daughter to meet. I will be forever grateful for this because my mom passed the following morning. This is something you will never get back and will cherish this day for the rest often life. Best of luck with your decision because I know this is a tough call but for me, I am so fortunate that my mom held her one and only grandchild even if it was only a couple hours.
    That is amazing! Thank you for sharing and I'm so sorry for your loss.
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