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Preschool - necessary?

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edited August 2013 in Parenting
Prompted by @Nana_Osaki06

Do you think a formal preschool is even necessary?

DSs go to an in-home. She has never claimed to be overtly educational. They do count things and sing letter songs, etc throughout the course of the day. And they definitely work on sharing and lining up to go outside and sitting on the rug waiting for their turn, and that sort of school routine type stuff.

If we work with them at home on the educational stuff, are they really missing out with no preschool?

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  • I personally would prefer that my kid go to a preschool that has a specific educational component, but I don't think it would be some huge detriment to your kid if he/she didn't.



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  • I don't think a 3 year old needs formal education. My views might be controversial. I think that unless pre-k is offered free to everyone, it causes a great divide between the people who have money and those that don't. Why create this distinction so early on?

    There is plenty of time to teach reading, writing, and math. At this age kids need to foster a sense of exploration of their surroundings and develop a love for learning.

    I grew up in Romania where formal education didn't start till 5 or 6 with kindergarden. By the time we moved here I was ahead 2 years in math and I skipped a year overall. But that's another story. I just used the example to show that I didn't get behind by starting later.

    Whether kindergarden teachers can tell who came from pre-k doesn't matter. The question is whether the distinction still remains at the end of the year. Kindergarden is supposed to prepare kids for first grade.

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    I often wonder if, instead of a full year of preK for all students, school systems wouldn't do better with some sort of summer camp to teach the rules.


    Love that idea!

    DS1 is only 2, so I have some time to decide, but I have always assumed I would do some preschool. Now I'm not so sure.

    I'm afraid that I'm rationalizing not doing it because I'm being lazy about logistics. If we do preschool, I would rather part time mixed in with daycare we already use but I don't know how to pull that off without relying heavily on my retired father who may or may not be ok with it.

  • I feel children should have one year of either 2 or 3 days/week prior to entering Kindergarten.  Just so they get a feel of a real classroom, classroom rules and the routine of going to school. 

  • I don't think it is necessary for the kids, but I think it helps them ALOT!! I have sent both my boys to preK, and they have all benefited from it in different ways. Not only does it help them learn, it also gives them social time with kids their own age, which helped my kids tremendously!!... and plus in K, the kids are learning so much more now. It just depends on your judgement of what your kid truely needs, or what they're ready for.
    Most states PreK is not mandatory but I feel that it is very helpful - especially if your child has not gone to daycare.


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  • We live in Canada so my DS will still be 3 when he starts full day kindergarten (will turn 4 in the November). We are not doing any preschool programs, but he does go to daycare, and we are hoping to do some different activities this year like gymnastics. I am a teacher and from what I have seen, a LOT of the focus in our kindie program is on those types of skills that many PPs have mentioned... Listening, sitting quietly, following instructions.
  • We have full day kindergarten here so I think it would be hard on a 5-year-old to go from being home all day to spending 7 hours in school but it all depends on the kid.
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  • mbenit4 said:
    I don't think a 3 year old needs formal education. My views might be controversial. I think that unless pre-k is offered free to everyone, it causes a great divide between the people who have money and those that don't. Why create this distinction so early on.
    I find there are way more programs for lower income households than not. I don't think stating at 5 means you will be behind at all for everyone student. I just don't see learning early as a disadvantage. I don't think children need to be taught to explore etc. JMO

    In our area this is absolutely true.  Lower income are the only kids that have access to any public (free) pre-k where I live.  They can apply for pre-k in the public schools or at head start.

    I do think pre-k is necessary.  Ollie goes to in-home and we have been looking into pre-school options.  We were going to go with a center, but a spot became available a church pre-school near us.  It's part time and his sitter will drop him and pick him up.  It really worked out for the best since I didn't want to leave his in-home.  He's only about to be 3, so it could probably wait until next year, but I still think it will be good for him.

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  • mbenit4 said:
    I feel this is the age they learn the mist and they need a little more. I like preschool and have been told by teachers that they can tell the difference in who went and who didn't.
    This.  I teach HS and I can tell.  
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  • I'm currently deciding what we're going to do with DD. There are limited options in my town, and it appears they are all Christian based. As an atheist, I'm not super excited about our options. There is a Montessori type school in another town, but the cost is much higher. I don't plan to do full time daycare, nor do I think she needs two years. I do, however, have to make a choice soon die to waiting lists.


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  • I am interviewing an in home for this year, but fully intend to have Reese start preschool next year. She will be going to my old preschool. Our friends kids go there---it is an amazing program and fairly lower cost than others in the area. The kindergarten teachers in our public school, actually recommend them over public kindergarten. 

    The full day teachers are better than the half day ones--so next year if everything works out she will be there 3 full days--from 9-3. 
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  • I'm currently deciding what we're going to do with DD. There are limited options in my town, and it appears they are all Christian based. As an atheist, I'm not super excited about our options. There is a Montessori type school in another town, but the cost is much higher. I don't plan to do full time daycare, nor do I think she needs two years. I do, however, have to make a choice soon die to waiting lists.
    This is us too, but the one he is going to is supposed to be really good.  His in-home is Christian and my family is Christian.  So, he is exposed to religion outside of our home anyway. 
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  • I think that kids learn a lot from any group experience, including an in-hme center, so long as there are kids there near his age- if he's the only toddler, he won't get as much out of it. The most important skills they learn come from most group experiences- waiting their turn, getting comfort/guidance from someone other than Mom and Dad, etc. The academics can be worked on all day, at home or out and about with just about anyone. And really, even if the benefits are shown to not be noticeable by 2 or 3 grade, who doesn't want to give their kid a leg up, even for "just" a couple years? It seems like it would make everything less frustrating.
    That being said, DS just started yesterday, but he already knows much of the academics you mentioned just from being home with me. I signed him up bc I need the time to myself and I'm having another baby in Oct.
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  • We live in Canada so my DS will still be 3 when he starts full day kindergarten (will turn 4 in the November). We are not doing any preschool programs, but he does go to daycare, and we are hoping to do some different activities this year like gymnastics. I am a teacher and from what I have seen, a LOT of the focus in our kindie program is on those types of skills that many PPs have mentioned... Listening, sitting quietly, following instructions.

    Oh my gosh where in Canada are you that kinder starts that early? I'm in AB and O won't be able to start K until she's 5.5y because she misses the march 1st cutoff by a few days.
    Plus we only have half day that I can find :(
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  • I'm homeschooling DD1, but honestly, sending her to preschool was amazing.  I'd just had DD2 and I didn't have the capacity to teach DD1 jack shit.

    She learned to socialize, roll with a schedule, recognize sight words, all kinds of different things.  Plus it gave me three solid hours a day to just have one kid, it was a savior for my sanity.  For that reason alone I'd call it necessary, lol.

    But seriously, I highly recommend it.

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  • Holy shit they start full day kindy at 3 in Canada?!?!?~?~

    Not generally that I know of! Where I am, they have to turn 5 by March 1 of the school year they start. So most will be 4-5 years old. And no full day here, I wish!
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  • DD#1 went to a Montessori summer camp this past June/July - 2 days a week and she is starting at the same school in September 3 days a week. 

    I am starting her as soon as possible because she has been at home since birth - no day care or any time out of the house really to just be with other kids her age.  She did go to little gym classes but those were parent-child so not really the same thing. 

    If she was in day care full time, I probably wouldn't be pushing preschool as much but without it, I don't want her first experience out of the house to be in kindergarten.

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  • DS1 definitely gets the socialization and rules/routines part of school from daycare. I think we'll work with him at home on skills through the age of 3 and then reassess whether or not to start formal preschool at 4.

    One thing I love about DCP is that she always has a ton of kids with varied ages. Her grown daughters work with her, so she can take a lot more kids than most in-homes. DS1 has definitely copied skills from the older kids and learned how to share/be gentle with the little ones. It was great training for when we brought DS2 home.
  • I SAH and there is no way that I could have just sent DS to kindy without preschool.  He has plenty of social opportunities, but the areas he needs to keep working on are the circle time, following directions, and doing activities (arts & crafts) that he doesn't enjoy.

    If I had just sent him straight to kindergarten then I would have set him up for failure--and the teacher would have had her hands full.  It wouldn't have been good for anyone.

    My kid also has developmental delays which didn't become fully obvious until he wasn't able to just blend into preschool.  Seeing where he wasn't doing well helped me recognize he needed help, and I am able to get him services in school that will make his transitions easier. My experience makes me a huge advocate of at least a year of public pre-school.  DD will start next fall.


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  • DS has been in a small daycare center/pre-school since he was 8 weeks old, and I think he benefits a lot from it. Of course it depends on the kid, but it certainly wouldn't hurt, and there are so many ways it can help

  • Is it wrong of me to put DS is co-op preschool because I want time away from him?

    Oh and socialization and stuff.

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  • My DS will start PreK next fall. He is enrolled in a Spanish speaking immersion program 3 days a week. Then the other two days he goes to daycare.
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  • Holy shit they start full day kindy at 3 in Canada?!?!?~?~
    In Ontario they have a full day Junior Kindergarten in most schools as well as a full day Kindergarten.  Which means my child would be 3 turning 4 for JK and 4 turning 5 for K.  Luckily we no longer live there because I think they are SO little to be starting full days at 3 years old and as a Kindergarten teacher I really don't see it necessary.

    In Alberta my daughter will turn 5 before the Kindergarten deadline of March 1st but we will still hold her back and have her start at 5 turning 6.  We will do a 2 day a week half day preschool and then a 3 day a week half day JK until she starts.

    I hear/see kids struggling when they begin early but I never hear people say that they wish their child started school earlier.
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  • I think pre-school has huge benefits. I do think a determined, energetic SAH Parent could provide the same level of benefit, but a lot of us aren't SuperMommy/Daddy. I know the days I'm home alone with DS just getting him clothed and fed can feel exhausting. As a non-professional, coming up with engaging, effective learning activities could be challenging, although the internet has provided a lot more resources than there once were.

    I don't think pre-school is "necessary", but I do think it's often a good idea, especially now that a lot of states won't start K until the child is 5 years old.
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  • Yes I think so.  But I have to add that it is free in Georgia so I think everyone that can get their child to the school should.
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  • I teach Pre-K and we were just talking about this topic. 30 years ago, I don't think it was necessary. But today's kindergarten is much more involved and has much higher academic standards, at least in my area. Kindy work is very similar to what used to be taught in first grade, which has made Pre-K more like the kindergarten we remember.

    I do think kids who don't attend at least a year of preschool can be at a disadvantage unless they have a SAHP who is very dedicated and on top of working with them at home and involving them in other activities to develop social skills. For me personally, I would just do preschool instead of trying to coordinate that myself. But I understand cost can be prohibitive, which makes me sad. I think every family should have access to affordable early childhood education.
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