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WTF Appt, Seriously WTF?!?! Switching Docs...

Ladies, today was ridiculous. To give you background, in the last 2 IVF cycles we've done, none of our embryos made it past 6 cells. We have nothing in cryo. We have had no success with any retrieval yet. The doctor that did our last retrieval (the docs switch rotation so you have a different doc for every procedure, really) asked us right away if we have any MFI, which we said not that we know of since he has really good numbers all around. I asked on here and you ladies pointed me towards having an SCSA done. So we walked into the Doc office, and she asks me if I've ever been on Metformin. Um, YES!!! You put me on it the last IVF cycle!!! How does she not know this? You would think she'd look at least look at our chart before our consult. So then we ask about having an SCSA done, and she doesn't know what it is!!!! We told her, and she says she doesn't thnk it has anything to with our issue. She thinks PGD would be a waste, too. She wants to test me for Natural Killer cells because she thinks there may be an autoimmune issue preventing the embryos from implanting. I asked her what that has to do with none of our embryos making it past 6 cells? Wouldn't that be what we want to figure out? I mean, they can't implant if they don't develop right? She couldn't answer us, just kept saying that she thinks it's an egg issue, not sperm. Ok, fine, but if nothing else, wouldn't you want to officially rule out a sperm issue? She also put me & DH on CoQ10, which is the ONE thing I agree with. I guess there's a study that is happening/happened in Toronto with women who have poor quality eggs, and after taking CoQ10 their egg quality increased. Plus, it's supposed to help wih sperm quality as well.

She said no less than 3 times how disappointed she was that we don't have anything frozen. And she wanted to point out that she thinks that by all rights, we should be pregnant by now and she's upset that we aren't. REALLY?!?!?! Gee, I'm so glad your upset & disappointed because I had no idea how to feel. Ugh. It was ridiculous. I asked when we could move forward, and she wants us on a break for August. She also wants to wait until my tests come back, but shouldn't that only be a few hours like normal? Other problem is, if they don't put me on birth control, I won't have a period on my own, so they'll have to give me an RX to take for 10 days, then I have to wait another 11 days for my period to start. Delayed for another 3 weeks, on top of the next month. Really?

There was so much more to the meeting, but this was the gist of it. So, we are making appointments for consultations with 2 other docs. Any advice you all could provide, I'd really appreciate it. I find it unreal that our doc was so completely unprepared for our meeting and didn't want to test DH to rule out MFI. Am I way off base or was this as insane as I think? Thanks ladies...

TTTC with PCOS & MTHFR since '06 : Me - 30  DH - 31

Metformin 1500mg, 600mg CoQ10, 1 PNV, 2000iu Vit D, 81mg Aspirin, 2 Folic Acid per day

2008 - 3 Failed Clomid/IUI Cycles (50, 100, 150mg)<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Injectable IUI w/ Gonal F = BFN

Break to pursue Holistic treatment

3/2013 - Injectable IUI with Gonal F, Ganirelex, Endometrin, HCG Trigger = BFN

5/2013 - IVF #1 = Gonal F, Ganirelex, Menopur, HCG Trigger = BFN

27R, 24M/F, 20 on D3, 14 on D4, 0 on D5

Developed OHSS, RX Cabergolene, No Transfer

7/2013 - IVF #2 = Gonal F, Lupron, Menopur, Endometrin, HCG Trigger = BFN

15R, 5 Unreachable, 13M/F, 11 on D2, 11 on D3

3DT, 3Emb: 2 6 Cell grade 1, 1 6 Cell grade 2 - Remaining left to develop

D6, none left to freeze, all arrested.

SCSA Test Results Normal

2nd Opinion Consultation on 8-29 - Switching RE's

11/2013 - IVF #3 = Saizen Protocol, Gonal F, Menopur, Ganirelex, Progesterone in Oil

15R, 10M/F, 6 on D1, 2 Blasts made it to D5 Freeze.

1/2014 -  FET = Intralipid Infusion, Progesterone in Oil = BFN

Both Embryos survived thaw and both transfered

2/2014 - Consultation - Final Diagnosis is Poor Egg Quality - Recommended to move to Donor Egg

 

PAIF/SAIF WELCOME!!!

 

"Nothing good comes easily, sometimes you gotta fight..." - Amber, by 311

Re: WTF Appt, Seriously WTF?!?! Switching Docs...

  • edited August 2013
    Your doctor doesn't sound very intelligent. Better luck with the next two!
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  • I would be looking for a second opinion if my doctor didn't know about tests that I was asking about. If they agree with the first doc fine, but at least you will know that you did everything you could. I went for a second opinion wheni was diagnosed with Meniere's disease (it is an ear thing) a few years ago. Both doctors had the same diagnosis, but the second one offered me more treatment options and made me feel much better about what my long term care would be. After that experience, I will never hesitate to get a second opinion, especially if I think there is something more to be done to improve my health.
    TTC Since January 2012 Me:37 DH:34      DX July 2013: Unexplained Infertility      New DX Dec 2013: DOR
    BFP#1 6/4/12 EDD 2/13/13 M/C 6/6/12  BFP#2 2/21/13 EDD 11/3/13 M/C 2/26/13 BFP#3 C/P
    4 rounds of clomid, 2 with IUI = BFN
    November/December Retesting/Natural Cycle = Surprise BFP @ 11dpo! Beta#1 76.6@13dpo Beta #2 276@15dpo u/s#1 6w2d hb113 u/s#2 8w2d, measuring 8w4d hb168! 10w2d hb171 12w3d Verifi results are in and good! EDD 8/23 Our Baby Girl Rainbow Baby born 8/20/2014!!!
    Um...what? BFP 11/2/15!?! EDD 7/4/16
  • Thanks for all your advice and insight!!!  We're definitely getting a 2nd & 3rd opinion.  I had my bloodwork done for the "Natural Killer" cells (which we won't find out the results for 3-4 days) and they reran my TSH which was normal at 1.3.  My doc says now that if we want to we can do the SCSA test, but she really doesn't think it's a sperm issue.  I'd rather be sure than to waste more cycles on "maybe".  I also found out that it's way too late into this break cycle for them to put me on birth control to make sure I get a period.  Unfortunately, I don't ge a period on my own, so now they'l have to give me provera for 10 days, then it takes another 11-12 for my period to start.  Nurse says today that if I don't get my period by the 30th to call in for the RX.  So that'll be 3 weeks into September before we can start another cycle.  I understand a break cycle, that's fine.  But to now have to wait another 3+ weeks after that is just frustrating.  Sorry for all the rants, it just feels like things keep getting pushed back at every turn...

    TTTC with PCOS & MTHFR since '06 : Me - 30  DH - 31

    Metformin 1500mg, 600mg CoQ10, 1 PNV, 2000iu Vit D, 81mg Aspirin, 2 Folic Acid per day

    2008 - 3 Failed Clomid/IUI Cycles (50, 100, 150mg)<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

    Injectable IUI w/ Gonal F = BFN

    Break to pursue Holistic treatment

    3/2013 - Injectable IUI with Gonal F, Ganirelex, Endometrin, HCG Trigger = BFN

    5/2013 - IVF #1 = Gonal F, Ganirelex, Menopur, HCG Trigger = BFN

    27R, 24M/F, 20 on D3, 14 on D4, 0 on D5

    Developed OHSS, RX Cabergolene, No Transfer

    7/2013 - IVF #2 = Gonal F, Lupron, Menopur, Endometrin, HCG Trigger = BFN

    15R, 5 Unreachable, 13M/F, 11 on D2, 11 on D3

    3DT, 3Emb: 2 6 Cell grade 1, 1 6 Cell grade 2 - Remaining left to develop

    D6, none left to freeze, all arrested.

    SCSA Test Results Normal

    2nd Opinion Consultation on 8-29 - Switching RE's

    11/2013 - IVF #3 = Saizen Protocol, Gonal F, Menopur, Ganirelex, Progesterone in Oil

    15R, 10M/F, 6 on D1, 2 Blasts made it to D5 Freeze.

    1/2014 -  FET = Intralipid Infusion, Progesterone in Oil = BFN

    Both Embryos survived thaw and both transfered

    2/2014 - Consultation - Final Diagnosis is Poor Egg Quality - Recommended to move to Donor Egg

     

    PAIF/SAIF WELCOME!!!

     

    "Nothing good comes easily, sometimes you gotta fight..." - Amber, by 311

  • Wow, this sounds rediculous!  I truly hope you find a better doctor.  Sorry I don't have any advice, wish you luck in moving forward with a more intelligent doctor.  
    Me 36, Married TTC Since 2009
    HSG = blocked tubes in March 2011
    (Would have started work up sooner but husband deployed in 2010)
    Tubes unblocked successfully in June 2011
    TTC naturally no success (Husband deployed again in2011
    Clomid IUI 3 rounds- Dec 2012, Jan. 2013, Feb. 2013 Failed
    IUI # 4 Follistim/Ganirelix/Ovidrel/Progesterone Supp.- April 2013-Failed
    IUI # 5 Follistim/Ganirelix/Ovidrel/Progesterone Supp - June 2013-Failed
    IUI # 6 Follistim/Ganirelix/Ovidrel/Progesterone Supp - June 2013-Failed
    On a break while husband is deployed.  Will try to do more testing and prepare for IVF
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  • I'm so sorry- that is ridiculous. I def. understand you looking for  new doc! good luck!
    Married since June 2008

    Systemic Lupus Erythematosus
    TTC Post Chemotherapy
    Unexplained Infertility

    DH- SA Normal, Lap on 8/8/13
    BFP! 11/7/13 EDD 07/15/14 changed to 07/23/14 after first u/s

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  • Hopefully you can find a new doctor quickly and will be able to start with this upcoming cycle instead of waiting until September.  Good Luck!
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    Me-30 DH-34
    2002- Diagnosed with PCOS at 18
    10/11-10/12 - tried to conceive naturally with Metformin, due to PCOS never had a cycle
    10/12-12/12 3 cycles of Clomid - fail
    6/13- 1st cycle on Clomid 50mg, Metformin, Follistim, and Ovidrel- BFN
    7/13 2nd cycle on Clomid 50 mg, Metformin, Follistim, and Ovidrel 1st IUI - BFN
    8/13 3rd cycle on Clomid 50 mg, Metformin, Follistim, and Ovidrel 2nd IUI - BFN
    9/13 4th cycle on Clomid 50 mg, Metformin, Follistim, and Ovidrel - Benched with Cysts
    From 12/13 to current I have ovulated 4 times naturally
    Currently on break to get healthy.... 35 pounds down, 13 to go!
    All Are Welcome!!

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