November 2012 Moms

I just don't know..(sleep training)

I just don't know..(sleep training)

So up until now I was totally okay with rocking and nursing E to sleep because i LOVE that time of the day. But now that we are KU I am rethinking it because my greatest fear is BED TIME! Here is our schedule

Bath (every other night)
Get dressed
Lotion 
Hard Play 
Nurse to sleep while rocking
Down in PNP by my bed.
2ish hours later up to eat if fully awake, if not i can pat her back and give binky.
2-3 more hours up to eat and i bring her into bed and sleep the rest of the night. 

I know that i cant keep snuggling her to sleep even though i really, really want to. I tried CIO at naptime today and i just couldn't do it. I was in tears. At SOME point maybe at 12Mo i'd like her in her room (no i wouldn't, i just like the idea for her sake.) And by the time lo2 is here id like her to put herself to sleep. DH and I have thought about keeping her in our room even after 2 gets here because we hate the thought of her being across the house. Is that crazy thinking? Any ideas or tips for me? 

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Re: I just don't know..(sleep training)

  • You aren't crazy if this is what you want. Personally, I wanted LO in his room at 4 months so that we could have our space back and because he wasn't sleeping good with our dogs making noise since they also sleep in there. But, that being said, that's what I wanted to do and if this is what you want to do, then do it!
    Just FYI I still rock and snuggle him to sleep at night after his bottle and he learned to put himself back to sleep I he woke up after that in bed. Unless of course he had something else going on like teething pain etc. naps I don't rock and snuggle. I put him in his crib and I go in every 5-10 minutes and rub his back until he falls asleep.
    Our schedule is solids a 5pm. Play play play until 7ish. Bath time to relax and wind down. Then lotions and Jammie's. then rocking and bottle. It works great for us but each household and family needs to do what works for them.
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  • @hummingbirdbaby3 She still naps in her swing but she fusses for about 5 min and is out. I want to try it without the swing tomorrow. 

    @kiraliz when i put her down drowsy she screams and sits up grabbing me :( 

    I CAN DO THIS

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  • @lyndsihutson she till sits in the swing?  Sam was done with that so early I was sad.... now I am trying to consign it cu there is no easy way to store those!

     

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  • @credcat7, yep!! I have the snuggabunny and put her in it with the straps and play either rain or lullabys and turn on the mobile. After 5-10 min of fussing and talking to her seahorse she is out. Shes never really napped anywhere else :( those things are so convenient along with RNP till its time to end it.  

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  • I had to give up the swing cause he or tooooooo big. I was so worried about naps in his crib. It took a week or two but he eventually gave in. Be strong and don't do anything you're uncomfortable with.
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  • I just wanna keep her my lil snuggle baby forever :(

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  • So my LO does the down drowsy hits the mattress screaming thing. We were putting her down on our bed and then moving her to the crib, but with teething and ear infections this basically means she sleeps on the bed and screams in the crib when she wakes up there. She wakes up every 30 minutes.

    Last night things were a little different, and I'm wondering if this might work for you. So, rocked LO and she is out. I put her down in the crib and when she wakes there, screaming, I pick her up and cuddle her immediately ..and talk to her "go to sleep. I'm here. I'm putting you back in the crib" then put her back in the crib. Screaming. Pick up, same thing. Did this a few times until she was just crying as opposed to hysterical, at which point, I leaned over her in the crib and held her hand, said more or less the same things, stroked her forehead etc until she closed her eyes. Then I stayed like that for about 5 minutes, while she opened her eyes, checked to see if I was there, closed them again several times. After that, I just stood beside the crib for a few minutes and that seemed sufficient. She woke up a few other times, but was very easily consoled the rest of the night. It is kind of Hogg-like in method. It occurred to me that when LO sleeps at my mother's, she doesn't flip out all that much. There, she sleeps in a pack n play beside my bed. She can see me when she wakes up. Here, we have moved her crib to the other side of the room and she can't see anyone.

    I don't know if this means anything or if it is a fluke or a byproduct of my sleep deprived brain. We've had 6 very rough nights this past week due to teething and ear troubles. She seemed to be feeling a bit better yesterday afternoon, so maybe that is part of it. Still, I don't know, my mommy empath side felt like she slept better because she thought I was present constantly. I might be deluding myself though. Right now my experiment only has an n of 1.
  • @surpriseat39 thanks for the editing advice. If I use the < > button when writing the post on iPad, formatting stays. Can't fix bad formatting, but can prevent it.

  • totally agree with @kiraliz that the older they get, the harder it will be.  I'm a FTM, but that's just what I hear from others and what I've read, too. 

    I also just feel like, imagine if you were your baby and you had to go through that whole production to get to sleep and everytime you woke up during the night.  That would suck, right?  Sleep training gives them the skills they need to get a great night's sleep, which they desperately need! 

    We went Ferber, but I modified it a little bit by stretching out the progressive waiting periods and we cut down on the nighttime feedings first before we did the "CIO" part.  But, it was the best thing we ever did, it sucked hard for about 5 days.  And it's been soooo much better ever since.  If CIO just isn't going to work for you, try the No-Cry Sleep Solution or another no-cry method.  But, I feel like CIO works really fast and gets the adjust period, the hard part, over sooner. 

    "A new baby is like the beginning of all things--wonder, hope, a dream of possibilities."


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  • I agree with kiraliz as well....will be harder when older. However, to have to I what will make your heart happy and baby content. @maven212 we started that way too. Worked well. Now I'm on to just trying to get him down. I figure I can endure 20 min of crying or so if it means we all get some good sleep. Good luck!
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  • @credcat7 and @hummingbirdbaby3 here is her nap right now... I didn't do it. :( I just wanted her to get a good nap and put her in there and she was out in 2-3 min! Last night I tried letting her cry to put herself back to sleep and DH ended up cussing at me and saying I'm being a bad mommy. Clearly I don't have the support to sleep train. He must think that she will just start sleeping by herself all on her own. :(

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  • @jg1011 I'm inching closer to the conclusion that we will be Ferbering. I don't want to, but I figure I've had about 20 hours of sleep in 6 days. It might be Ferber or CIO or a complete physical breakdown on my part. We'll see how the week goes, I guess. 
  • @lyndsihutson, you're not a bad mom! Sleep training works for some, but not everyone does it. There's a FB group called "Wait it Out" (I think) that is for parents that have decided not to; could be a great resource! Whichever way you decide to go, GL to you.

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  • thank you @gargita! Heading over to FB now. Hope to find it! 

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