Vitamin K shot

Chrisanna0508 · July 2013

Thoughts? I have been doing some research online and didn't know if any of you have found good articles on risks vs. benefits.

jorkz821 · July 2013

What would be the risks?

Chrisanna0508 · July 2013

I believe the correlation with childhood cancer has been disproven, but more just a question about whether it is really necessary. Many say it isn't. Of course, I just saw that I may not have a choice because apparently these things are mandatory in NY no matter what the parents want. I hate this stupid state.

SuperSecretStatus · July 2013

DD1 got the shot and so will Zoe. I believe in fair torture for my kids. Seriously though, with my luck if I didn't get it something detrimental would probably happen.

Weljadraak · July 2013

At the hospital I'll deliver at, it's mandatory. The only one you can say "no" to is the Hep B.

jackiesue586 · July 2013

I'll get the vitamin k if I end up having a difficult birth or if baby needs surgery for some reason. But I'm loading myself up with vitamin k so it goes through my milk/ colostrum to baby.

Gwyneddlesliegrace · July 2013

Weljadraak said:

At the hospital I'll deliver at, it's mandatory. The only one you can say "no" to is the Hep B.

I would look into this. I don't think they can force you to do anything.

Gwyneddlesliegrace · July 2013

This is a good blog post on it that I stumbled on a while back. This pretty much explains *my* reasoning for not doing it. https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/skip-that-newborn-vitamin-k-shot/#comment-45825

Chrisanna0508 · July 2013

Gwyneddlesliegrace said:

This is a good blog post on it that I stumbled on a while back. This pretty much explains *my* reasoning for not doing it. https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/skip-that-newborn-vitamin-k-shot/#comment-45825

Thanks for the link. While I am not against immunizations, I do like to be informed about what is going on rather than blindly accepting it. @btimes3 I am not boo freaking hooing anything, but I don't need some dumb group of representatives telling me what to do with my child. NYS has become such a nanny state and I hate that. I think it is dumb that they are locking up formula as well like its a narcotic. I am all for breastfeeding and think every woman should be informed, but if a woman wants to formula feed then she shouldn't have to jump through hoops to do it.

shelley1002 · July 2013

Chrisanna0508 said:

Gwyneddlesliegrace said:

This is a good blog post on it that I stumbled on a while back. This pretty much explains *my* reasoning for not doing it. https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/skip-that-newborn-vitamin-k-shot/#comment-45825

Thanks for the link. While I am not against immunizations, I do like to be informed about what is going on rather than blindly accepting it. @btimes3 I am not boo freaking hooing anything, but I don't need some dumb group of representatives telling me what to do with my child. NYS has become such a nanny state and I hate that. I think it is dumb that they are locking up formula as well like its a narcotic. I am all for breastfeeding and think every woman should be informed, but if a woman wants to formula feed then she shouldn't have to jump through hoops to do it.

Formula is a highly stolen item from stores and I believe there is quite a black market for it. That is probably why it is being locked up. It is being locked here to and you have to get it at the registers instead of in the aisles.

Chrisanna0508 · July 2013

shelley1002 said:

Chrisanna0508 said:

Gwyneddlesliegrace said:

This is a good blog post on it that I stumbled on a while back. This pretty much explains *my* reasoning for not doing it. https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/skip-that-newborn-vitamin-k-shot/#comment-45825

Thanks for the link. While I am not against immunizations, I do like to be informed about what is going on rather than blindly accepting it. @btimes3 I am not boo freaking hooing anything, but I don't need some dumb group of representatives telling me what to do with my child. NYS has become such a nanny state and I hate that. I think it is dumb that they are locking up formula as well like its a narcotic. I am all for breastfeeding and think every woman should be informed, but if a woman wants to formula feed then she shouldn't have to jump through hoops to do it.

Formula is a highly stolen item from stores and I believe there is quite a black market for it. That is probably why it is being locked up. It is being locked here to and you have to get it at the registers instead of in the aisles.

Hm...I haven't heard of that, but wow. I am talking about at hospitals specifically, but I'm sure you could steal it from there too. Where I read it explained however they said it was being put into place to dissuade mothers from giving their infants formula.

kimbo1216 · July 2013

I don't remember now, but when I was researching with DD, I just remember not being able to find any good, valid reasons not to do it.

We did however decline the Hep B in the hospital and will again. There is just no point to get it that young.

tpeale · July 2013

kimbo1216 said:
I don't remember now, but when I was researching with DD, I just remember not being able to find any good, valid reasons not to do it.

We did however decline the Hep B in the hospital and will again. There is just no point to get it that young.

I agree!!

RunningGal900 · July 2013

I can't find any really strong reasons for declining it, so she will get it. I wil probably decline the eye ointment if its legally allowed since I know I don't have stds, though will discuss further with my ob. I will also decline hep b in the hospital. We fully vaccinate, but this seems silly at such a young age.

Amjoy25 · July 2013

btimes3 said:

Is there a reason not to get the Hep B vaccination? Other than it not being likely that a child will contract Hep B at such a young age. Because if it's just a matter of the odds being against it, I would go ahead and get it done. If there's an actual reason, other than bogus claims of it causing cancer or autism or having *gasp* preservatives in it, I'd actually be interested to know.

It also reduces the number of vaccines they need at their 2 month visit...I'm just sayin'.

It also seems to me that too many people are just finding reasons not to do what your doctor and/or the health organizations recommend, just to make life more difficult. It's really asinine, IMO.

No antibiotic ointment in the eyes, really? Give me a break. It's ointment.

JenMatt2010 · July 2013

Amjoy25 said:

btimes3 said:

Is there a reason not to get the Hep B vaccination? Other than it not being likely that a child will contract Hep B at such a young age. Because if it's just a matter of the odds being against it, I would go ahead and get it done. If there's an actual reason, other than bogus claims of it causing cancer or autism or having *gasp* preservatives in it, I'd actually be interested to know.

It also reduces the number of vaccines they need at their 2 month visit...I'm just sayin'.

DS was much more aware of the shots at his 2 month appt than on the day he was born. Also, these are standard practice for a reason. I am not in the medical field, and I don't think my google research is enough reason to justify not getting any of these. DH is a doctor and was fine with DS, and this LO, getting all of this.

CousinVicki · July 2013

is this some jenny mccarthy shlt?

Amjoy25 · July 2013

CousinVicki said:

is this some jenny mccarthy shlt?

Then it totes scientific.

JenMatt2010 · July 2013

Amjoy25 said:

CousinVicki said:

is this some jenny mccarthy shlt?

Then it totes scientific.

Totes magotes!

Skyjewell23 · July 2013

I was told that since we are choosing to circumcise he HAS to have the vitamin K shot, which makes sense to me.

JenMatt2010 · July 2013

OMG...if this turns into a vaccination/circumcision debate, someone please insert a popcorn gif for me...I'm mobile.

Also a sidenote, a friend of mine who is not in the medical field, came up with a modified vax schedule on her own because a friend of a friend of a friend of a cousin had a "perfectly healthy" baby who died after their 15 month vax. Sigh. :-q

Amjoy25 · July 2013

JenMatt2010 said:

OMG...if this turns into a vaccination/circumcision debate, someone please insert a popcorn gif for me...I'm mobile. Also a sidenote, a friend of mine who is not in the medical field, came up with a modified vax schedule on her own because a friend of a friend of a friend of a cousin had a "perfectly healthy" baby who died after their 15 month vax. Sigh. :-q

Population control. \:D/

kdjudd · July 2013

Unless my baby has a traumatic birth I will be declining it.

RunningGal900 · July 2013

btimes3 said:

Is there a reason not to get the Hep B vaccination? Other than it not being likely that a child will contract Hep B at such a young age. Because if it's just a matter of the odds being against it, I would go ahead and get it done. If there's an actual reason, other than bogus claims of it causing cancer or autism or having *gasp* preservatives in it, I'd actually be interested to know.

My pedi offers it at his 1 or 2 week visit (I can't recall which) if you don't do it at the hospital and he doesn't have a strong opinion on getting it then vs at the hospital. Then the baby is still on the regular vaccine schedule. For me personally, I'd just rather wait and have it done a week or two later, when I'm already at the Drs anyway than have anything else done at the hospital. DS and I personally really struggled with breastfeeding, so this time around I would prefer to avoid baby girl being taken for anything that is not 100% completely necessary so I can have her with me and work on establishing nursing. To me, the Heb B shot at birth vs 2 weeks later is just one of those things. DS has been fully vaccinated on the normally recommended CDC schedule and I am a strong believer in vaccines, but given this baby's risk of contracting Hep B, I'm willing to wait.

According to the CDC, the reasons for giving the shot are birth are to "catch" any moms who might have it that weren't properly documented and to increase the likelihood that the series is finished. Since I know I don't have it and I will ensure the series it completed, I'm comfortable waiting.

Why should an infant receive Hepatitis B vaccine at birth before hospital discharge, even if the mother is negative for Hepatitis B surface antigen (HBsAg)?Infants born to HBV-infected mothers require Hepatitis B vaccine and Hepatitis B immune globulin (HBIG) within 12 hours of birth to protect them from infection. However, because errors or delays in documenting, testing, and reporting maternal HBsAg status can and do occur, administering the first dose of Hepatitis B vaccine soon after birth to all infants acts as a safety net, reducing the risk for perinatal infection when maternal HBsAg status is either unknown or incorrectly documented at delivery. Also, initiating the Hepatitis B vaccine series at birth has been shown to increase a child's likelihood of completing the vaccine series on schedule.

chuicafina · July 2013

My OB is very open to not just following every recommendation for every patient. I talked to her about the Hep B, eye ointment and Vitamin K. She agreed that there's no need to get the Hep B vaccine at the hospital unless the mom has it or baby needs a blood transfusion. She also agreed that there is no need to do the eye ointment if mom has no STDs. She did say that while she personally did not do Hep B or the eye ointment at the hospital for her baby, she does feel the vitamin K is important. Skipping it, in her mind, is not worth the risk. I trust her and we'll be following that (and doing Hep B at a later appointment).

HFrizzle · July 2013

RunningGal900 said:
DS and I personally really struggled with breastfeeding, so this time around I would prefer to avoid baby girl being taken for anything that is not 100% completely necessary so I can have her with me and work on establishing nursing.

Typically the shot is given to them with in the first hour of them being born, while they are still in the room with you, so they never really leave have left the area you are in.

Chrisanna0508 · July 2013

Interesting perspectives. I just like to know about what I'm doing rather than blindly accepting what someone else tells me. I may delay Hep B, but will probably get the rest even though I also know I don't have STDs in regards to the eye ointment.

RunningGal900 · July 2013

HFrizzle said:

RunningGal900 said:
DS and I personally really struggled with breastfeeding, so this time around I would prefer to avoid baby girl being taken for anything that is not 100% completely necessary so I can have her with me and work on establishing nursing.

Typically the shot is given to them with in the first hour of them being born, while they are still in the room with you, so they never really leave have left the area you are in.

That was not how they did Hep B for us. They did do the Vit K shot then (which we will be doing), but they did take him for Hep B later.

HFrizzle · July 2013

RunningGal900 said:

HFrizzle said:

RunningGal900 said:
DS and I personally really struggled with breastfeeding, so this time around I would prefer to avoid baby girl being taken for anything that is not 100% completely necessary so I can have her with me and work on establishing nursing.

Typically the shot is given to them with in the first hour of them being born, while they are still in the room with you, so they never really leave have left the area you are in.

That was not how they did Hep B for us. They did do the Vit K shot then (which we will be doing), but they did take him for Hep B later.

I was talking about the Vit K, not the Hep b. The baby has to be taken away at some point anyways. The doc has to check them out, they do a hearing test, some bathe the baby in the nursery, etc. The half an hour to an hour that they are gone is not going to interfere with your ability to breast feed.

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