Third-Party Reproduction

What are your fears?

Do you have any fears about using Third Party Reproduction?

Anything in the back of your mind that makes this hard?

Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI   (TTC#1 since 2009)

IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN

Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p

DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN

DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN

DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN

FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p

DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.

FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN

Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus

New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells

FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October

 

 

 

Re: What are your fears?

  • Since I'm still in the waiting phase my fear is that it'll never happen. That I'll never receive embryos or that if I do it won't work. If a donor embryo cycle fails I don't know where I'd go from there. I know DH doesn't want to do this forever but I can't see a happy life for myself if I'm childless. I occasionally think about traditional adoption but honestly it scares the bejesus out of me!

    I'm sure this isn't the answer you're looking for but it's where I'm at.


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  • Like DP, my fears are more about our future could be childless if none of the steps that we are taking ever amount to us having a child. I can't picture my life without children to share it with. We would pursue traditional adoption if we went through all of our donated embryos without success, but that path really scares me to death emotionally and financially.  I do fear draining our bank account in the pursuit of this. :(

    As for TPR, I actually have less fears using TPR than I do if I was using my OE!

    Great question, I'm eager to read the other responses.

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    Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
    DH: Severe MFI

    12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
    8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)

    My ovaries are just for decoration

    12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
    2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 
    2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
    3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.

    6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
     
    9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
    9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
    9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d. :(

    11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
    11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
    Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522  Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 
    6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!

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  • Spending a fortune and ending up childless. 

    It's scary to even write that down. 


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  • My perspective is different because we now have our daughter thanks to the miracle of DE. Even though she's here, I still have worries. I wonder if my love and bond is as strong as it might have otherwise been. I wonder if she'll have a closer bond with my husband.  I worry that once she knows, she'll resent me. I dread the day my little girl says to me, "You're not my mother."  I'm afraid that DE will always be an issue in my head. I worry that my inlaws (with whom our daughter is genetically related) will somehow see me as less of her mother. Are my fears rational?  Probably not at all, but they cross my mind.

    All that said, my days aren't filled with fear and worry. They're filled with love, gratitude and peace. I adore this little girl, but I also think that to some extent, DE thoughts will always be there. I'm sure with time, these nagging fears will dissipate. 

    Baby girl Lila born 2013.
    Baby boy Henry born 2015.
    Expecting our capstone baby (boy) early March 2018.
  • This is a great question and I am also looking forward to seeing others responses.  I think I have fears about using DE for a second child more so than I would for a first but I don't really have any way to know that for sure.  DD is the spitting image of me at her age and definitely has my personality (which is not always a good thing since, according to my mom, I was a handful until I moved out of the house!)  I worry that if I were to have another DD with a DE cycle, I wouldn't have the same bond I do with my first. Rational or not, part of me thinks it would be a lot easier emotionally if I had a DS with a DE cycle because I can't picture what a male version of me would even look like (I only have a sister, no brothers).

    I do understand that it's different to end up childless than to end up with only one child, but for me the fear of not giving DD a sibling is very much a part of my daily thoughts.  I hope that does not sound insensitive to those of you trying for your first.  That's not my intention.   My dad passed away suddenly when I was 27 and since my parents had been divorced for 10 years, it was up to my sister and I to handle everything.  I can't imagine life without a sibling, even though my sister often drives me crazy.

    DD conceived naturally in 2009.  TTC #2 since August 2010.  Praying for guidance as we decide what's next.

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  • Good question KM672!!

    I fear the day that I begin sharing my child's story of how he/she came to be.  I plan to start early, use age appropriate books and tools-but still, will I screw it up?  Will I be able to teach a child about this so that the response is that he/she has always known that we had help to conceive.  We met with the social worker, and I understand telling your child on a cognitive level over time.....but it scares the wits out of me!!  I am so glad that this board is here to give me support as we face all these different challenges!!!

    I also worry that my son might reject this child if he learns that this baby is not genetically his sibling.  To me, genetics has taken a backseat to family-in whatever for that looks like.....but, I know that I cannot control how others feel about things.

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    I am very worried. I am also more hopeful than I've been in a very long time.

    I am mostly afraid it won't work. Like DP and Liz have mentioned, I can't live my life childless. I don't know how another failed cycle would affect me and my H. Failing multiple IVFs that always had huge obstacles was devastating. I am so scared to live through another disappointment, especially since we are truly hopeful this time.

    If it does work, I'm afraid my child will reject me. I am scared they will be angry with us for using 2 donors to create them and I already dread the day they tell me I'm not their mother.
    My H is worried about what other people will think, I'm really not concerned about that. I'm concerned about how our child will feel about everything.

    Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI   (TTC#1 since 2009)

    IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN

    Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p

    DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN

    DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN

    DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN

    FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p

    DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.

    FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN

    Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus

    New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells

    FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October

     

     

     

  • I'm 8w2d pregnant with donor egg. I'm thrilled after the long journey I've been down. However, I have fears. First one is getting thru the pregnancy without any complications. Then, I start thinking about will other people know that I used donor because my baby doesn't look like me. We don't want to ever tell the child that he/she comes from donor. Is this ok? 
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    I'm 8w2d pregnant with donor egg. I'm thrilled after the long journey I've been down. However, I have fears. First one is getting thru the pregnancy without any complications. Then, I start thinking about will other people know that I used donor because my baby doesn't look like me. We don't want to ever tell the child that he/she comes from donor. Is this ok? 

    This, I am too afraid to actually let myself relax and celaebrate our good fortune.  I've got 10 dys until our first u/s and I can't help but worry that we will have another tragic loss.  

    I'm worried that the one woman I told, who can't stop telling people will eventully spread the word to someone who actually knows me or my friends/family.  I do not want to be the last to know that our private decision is public.


    My DH and I are still deciding whether or not we will tell our child.   I don't want to be forced to because someone else might. 

    And I think it is perfectly ok not to tell the child because unless genetics becomes a everyday part of our lives and they start selling dna tests over the counter, it's not likely to come to light.

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  • Right now?? My fear is just getting through this next cycle and getting a BFP. In the grand scheme of finances and DE we have done ok with keeping cost in check, but still we are OOP with everything, but my meds.So this being DE IVF#2 is making me feel panicky about it not working again.

    The rest of the fears will come in time I am sure if we do get a BFP, we plan on being open with the child, but I will limit who knows until they are older and can let that be there story to tell, if that makes sense?

    April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

    September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

    October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

  • edited July 2013
    Having not cycled yet, my biggest fear is not being able to handle things financially if we need multiple cycles. Beyond that I'm terrified of the day when I tell people we had a BFP but its the surrogate, not me, who is pregnant. My family is Catholic so I fear the judgement and insecurity of those nine months more than anything. Will I feel like less on a woman? Less of a mother? Will people see me as less of a mother? We still are undecided about disclosing GS to a child, we would disclose if we used donor gametes, but what effect will that have?
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