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February 2012 Moms
WWYD - Job Related
I interviewed for a position and got a call back to come in and observe for an hour. They have two locations and the one they want me to go to is about 10 miles further from the first location, but is on a notoriously bad area for traffic so those 10 miles will add at least 15-25 minutes on a good day. I know this because it is the same area that my ob-gyn was located and my mfm so I had to travel that way often and traffic there is really bad.
So here is my issue/situation. I specifically applied to the other location because of the location so I asked her how often that position would need to rotate and she said not often at all and made it seem like the rarest of occurrences. Until she calls and wants me to observe there so I'm comfortable there. If it never occurs, then why would I need to be comfortable there?
WWYD? Since we haven't discussed pay, I'm not sure I should take the time to go up there, etc. and potentially waste their time and mine. So how can I ask via telephone since I don't have her email or anything? I've got a minimum to make financially and if they don't reach it I won't even go, there is not a point, especially due to the additional time/gas, etc. I have a feeling that she isn't being honest with me and that the position would require more travel between the locations than she is telling me.
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Re: WWYD - Job Related
I would wait for an offer and make sure it has a location on it. If it doesn't, then ask. Don't turn down a job that may be very good for something that may not happen!
It may be something you can negotiate. I trained in a different location than where I work so it isn't unheard of. They may just want you to get a feel for each location.
ETA: Also, that isn't too bad time-wise...20 minutes to go 10 miles is like 30 MPH which is pretty decent in my world!
20 minutes isn't bad but I cannot add 20 minutes and pick up my son from daycare, that's the problem.
I do agree about not turning something down based on what-ifs, but how do I ask about pay or should I just go for the observation and go from there? H thinks I should ask and be up front about it.
She said she never goes to the other location, and this position wouldn't have to except in completely rare/random situations - yet when she called me to set up the first interview she said if I call back today call Location A, if I call back tomorrow call her at Location B.
I think I am talking myself out of the job because I applied for my dream job yesterday and really want something to come through from that.
Don't talk yourself out of something you don't have yet...you don't want to miss out on an opportunity while waiting for the next one!
Ok, I worked in HR as a recruiter in a past life so I will say you can go about this one of two ways that wouldn't totally piss me off (as the recruiter, not as a friend!).
1. Be totally honest. Tell her, that location B is just too far from your son's daycare. You need to know how often you would be there and would you have advanced notice so that you can arrange late or alternate pickup for him.
2. Be a little passive aggressive about it and when you call say, "I thought you never worked at this location!"
As for salary, that generally doesn't come up until an offer is made. I really disliked when someone asked about salary after the first interview. If you are on interview two or three you can throw it in with some other questions. Salary, hours, dress code, etc...things that all make it seem like you are getting a feel for the daily life in the company.
Sorry if that was rambling...I get that way...Good luck!
All of this sounds like a good idea. I like the bolded suggestion over the 2nd one personally.
I would prefer to do one over two, but I did that yesterday. She said she was really never at the other location, yet both voicemails had both numbers depending on the day for her. This would be the second interview if I go in tomorrow so I could do it then I guess. I am not a passive aggressive person at all, I just didn't know how to say it without making it seem like it's all about money. But since this isn't my dream job or even in the field of something I would want long-term I am talking myself out of it. I know it doesn't have the growth potential other positions I have applied to has but it will be good experience so I will go and bring up salary if she doesn't when I get a chance to talk to her.
Thanks ladies! I needed perspective. H doesn't want me to take it at all he wants me to wait but like I said it will be good experience and that's a positive.
Follow up -
I went and they loved me and offered me the job and it was WAY below what I need to make. I told her that in the discussion and she seemed very disappointedbecause I know I would be a good fit but they weren't even close. If they were I'd have considered it but oh well I am glad I went and it was good experience. Thanks ladies!