Feels like pms vent

KC1212 · July 2013

Ugh, I feel like I have pms. My face is broke out and my boobs hurt. That's all!

I know I'm not done to til I'm done but I can't help but feel like this month will be a bust. Our timing wasn't great, and it is only first month maybe second month if you count the awesome coincidental timing that occurred on a frisky Memorial Day weekend ttc.

If it takes average people 36 months then are chances are slim to none. I mean DS was conceived after four years and we had resigned to a childless life and I was dieting of all things...

Anyway I don't know.

It makes me mad that pms and pregnancy are so similar. With DS I was so convinced af was coming that I went out and stocked up on feminine products!

But I still don't remember being this broke out!

And I'm trying to cut back on my coffee addiction and I'm failing miserably because I'm not awake without it.

Ok this is a complete vent.

KC1212 · July 2013

Ugh! Stupid phone! 3 to 6 months not 36!

I'm usually on my phone because if I got the computer out my toddler would run straight for it and want all in it!

MJC1116 · July 2013

My face breaks out with PMS too! But, then again, my face broke out HORRIBLY my first trimester with DD. I looked like a pre-pubescent teenager again.

I hate that feeling - anticipating AF and feeling like another month was a bust. It puts me in such a funk. But you're right...don't give up hope because pms and preg symptoms are pretty much identical.

You've only been ttc for 2 months? Maybe you'll get lucky and be one of those normal people and get pregnant within the first 6 months of trying! Jealous. Remind me again -- are you doing any treatments or doing this naturally? Sorry, I haven't had my coffee yet either

Speaking of caffeine, I'm totally trying to cut back too. My RE said 1 cup and I read 300 mg of caffeine a day. I don't drink soda or really eat anything with caffeine, so I'm trying to stick to one cup a day too.

Keep yourself busy!! Good luck!

KC1212 · July 2013

Thanks MJC

We tried to conceive by ourselves last time. DH has low sperm. We did 2 failed IUI's last time and I toyed with the idea of pushing for donor sperm for IUI number 3.

We didn't go that route and ttc was put on the back burner due to numerous outside reasons holidays, money, etc.
We continued to try by ourselves and eventually the emotional side of it became too much and I gave up. Completely threw in the towel. Looked into grad school, dieted, etc and that was when we fell pregnant with DS. A total of four years later.

Because we did conceive him naturally I feel hesitant to jump right back into IUI's and medicated cycles and such.
Plus I was not a fan of my RE.
And frankly, treatments are expensive. I felt like I doing 600 gambles that would has yielded better results in Vegas haha.

I read online about how people who have done multiple tries of IVF and I can't wrap my head around how someone can fork out the bucks to do that more than like once...

Insurance does not cover IF where I'm at...

So I realize this a long answer haha! But for now we are doing it natural before we go to plan B. plus I'm young enough I don't feel rushed yet. I just turned 27.

Momarazzi007 · July 2013

We tried 6 years for our first girl and finally did IVF and for her on second FET so I get the frustration and hope of trying on your own,' my hub is like a million, with multiple issues in there. It is super expensive and ins doesnt cover anything for us either. We are 32 so I feel super rushed! We have money saved up and have been. Instead of vacations and gifts we have been saving up invade we do fresh IVF cycle but still have to save another year before we can look at that. We have one egg left frozen, but it's like, do we spend 6,000 after mess and all to do FET and there is only 20 chance and it took us three cycles for first baby? Or do we use that 6,000 towards a full fresh IVF cycle and go route we did first time where all FETs are included until eggs from retrieval are gone? Financially we could do FET now but again it's a super risky decision and all the hormones and shots and all for naught if it doesn't take just to do much more later? And of course we are trying naturally now, but his numbers before varicocele repair were about a million with issues and now, same but less issues so. Better quality but still, doctors say IVF w ICSI only way to go to get pregnant.
Of course I think your are taking about multiple failed IVF attempts? Ugh, my heart goes out to them. We were lucky our last one tookbut I think when you go through years trying you get desperate and believe this time it will work and if it does great! But if it doesn't, only then you know right? I feel like we have to do it and children were always in my plan. Hubby knew that but I agreed the first few years of marriage we would hold off on kids and now I wish we hadn't waited! Ugh.
So I don't know if I put in my post, I have had horrible acne for about three days, normally that is a day or so before AF.
Are you able to go to different RE what does RE stand for? our first doctor we saw about this we weren't fans of, went to another And much different! I think in any area of health, if you and doctor aren't syncing up time for new one!

Momarazzi007 · July 2013

Oh, and I am a phone poster too... Invade incase lol sorry

KC1212 · July 2013

Momarazzi007:
We tried 6 years for our first girl and finally did IVF and for her on second FET so I get the frustration and hope of trying on your own,' my hub is like a million, with multiple issues in there. It is super expensive and ins doesnt cover anything for us either. We are 32 so I feel super rushed! We have money saved up and have been. Instead of vacations and gifts we have been saving up invade we do fresh IVF cycle but still have to save another year before we can look at that. We have one egg left frozen, but it's like, do we spend 6,000 after mess and all to do FET and there is only 20 chance and it took us three cycles for first baby? Or do we use that 6,000 towards a full fresh IVF cycle and go route we did first time where all FETs are included until eggs from retrieval are gone? Financially we could do FET now but again it's a super risky decision and all the hormones and shots and all for naught if it doesn't take just to do much more later? And of course we are trying naturally now, but his numbers before varicocele repair were about a million with issues and now, same but less issues so. Better quality but still, doctors say IVF w ICSI only way to go to get pregnant.
Of course I think your are taking about multiple failed IVF attempts? Ugh, my heart goes out to them. We were lucky our last one tookbut I think when you go through years trying you get desperate and believe this time it will work and if it does great! But if it doesn't, only then you know right? I feel like we have to do it and children were always in my plan. Hubby knew that but I agreed the first few years of marriage we would hold off on kids and now I wish we hadn't waited! Ugh.
So I don't know if I put in my post, I have had horrible acne for about three days, normally that is a day or so before AF.
Are you able to go to different RE what does RE stand for? our first doctor we saw about this we weren't fans of, went to another And much different! I think in any area of health, if you and doctor aren't syncing up time for new one!

I guess I haven't looked into the IVF side of things maybe if we scrounged we could afford it.
My husbands count is 52 million, 16 million are "active sperm" and the rest have poor morphology and poor motility. When we did IUI we had about 3 million post wash of his best swimmers and of course that cycle failed.

Yeah. The IVF thing truly amazes me. I've just not researched enough because we never made it to that point.

Please note to anyone who reads this that I'm an in no way shape or form criticizing the cost of IVF if I won the lottery tomorrow I would totally jump on board. Lol.

RE is reproductive endocrinologist

Momarazzi007 · July 2013

Ah, ok RE, got it!
Is it me or teenagers get pregnant and grandparents win the lottery?!? Lol

MJC1116 · July 2013

I totally get what you're saying We were there too for a while. I refused to consider treatment options because of the cost, and truthfully, I wasn't really ready to accept that something was wrong. I was determined to conceive on my own. When DH and I decided to start trying for #1, we decided to give it a shot with no real expectations - and boom - pregnant the first try. So of course I thought I was super fertile and held off #2 for a while. DH was back in school getting his MBA, logging long hours, I was invested in my job and still felt overwhelmed with the thought of birth (DD - yikes - 2 1/2 hours of pushing was not fun).

Anyways, once we started trying, I just knew something was not right. Long story short, it took us about 2 years to decide it was time to seek treatment. I'm 28 going on 29 this year, and I really don't want to wait any longer. DH and I have accepted that we will only do treatments until we have our 2nd, and then after that, we'll probably be done with having kids (unless we are surprised).

We also waited a while because we just bought a house and wanted to make sure financially we were secure before trying. I still freak about the price of doing a medicated IUI ($3000+) and I've already started to panic over the thought of losing that money if this cycle doesn't work. I'm just not ready to dive into IVF yet - $10K seems like so much and I can't do that to my family. But, yes, if I won the lotto, sign me up! Eventually, if this doesn't work, we may have to take out equity on our house. We have great insurance but are completely OOP for this.

Sorry to ramble on and on... I think your plan sounds awesome and I would probably do the same thing as you if I were in your shoes. How old is your DS? I am so praying that you get your bfp soon! Maybe throw in the towel again and you'll be surprised ;P (My mom keeps telling me to do that -- I have tried and it's not working! haha!)

KC1212 · July 2013

DS is only 18 months. We decided that it would probably take awhile no matter what route we took so we got to cracking early! LOL.

I breastfed the first 6 months anyway and had zero period until I stopped.

We've had so many stories of oh once you get pregnant once it's easier the second time! Blah blah blah.

Oh and I only did clomid and trigger IUI cycles which ran about 600 bucks a pop.

And a ton of months of just clomid and BDing.

MJC1116 · July 2013

Yes, ttc is in itself so expensive even without treatment!! Pregnancy tests, ovulation kits, vitamins, etc. are a ton of money and add up super fast! I refuse to buy preg tests. I just wait for my period and tell myself that if I'm late, I'll give in and shell over the money. I was at Costco this morning and hoped they had a super pack. Nope. Just condoms. haha.

Yeah, my ob tried to sell me on the "it'll be so much easier the 2nd time around" crap. Didn't happen. I like her and all but I think she's eating her words. She told me at my last annual that she thinks it's my turn. One could only hope.

Do you have a fertility monitor? I found that to be really helpful. I thought I ovulated "normally" like everyone else, but it turns out I was much later. Then you can time it to help DH out.

Well that's good that you're starting early! I waited too long... DD was closer to 2 I think. Wish we started earlier. Hindsight, right?

KC1212 · July 2013

Yes, I have the clearblue easy fertility monitor which I started to use this month and stopped because DH kindly pointed out to me that the test sticks had expired in 2008!

At the time I was backing it up so to speak with just the clearblue digital test and the digitals were giving me high readings, the monitor was giving me low readings and I assumed it was because the sticks were expired

Sooooo I quit using the monitor and only used the digital

And then that mess happened where I thought I ovulated but I didn't and then I did LOL

Soooo

I am currently "planning out" next cycle if this cycle is a bust.

And yes, the crap I've purchased in the name of ttc i could probably add it all up and at the end of the year it would equal one IVF haha!

I got smart this time and purchased the Internet cheapies for hpt's they look like they are from the 80's hahaha.

I bought 25 of them! I think I paid less than 15 dollars too!

MJC1116 · July 2013

Sent you a private message KC!

MJC1116 · July 2013

Sent you a private message KC!

formerwigirl · July 2013

Im with you on the pms symptoms. Woke up this morning sad and found I couldn't talk to someone without crying. Ive been in bed all day. Started brown spottting today so fairly certain AF will show any day now.

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