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Could use a pep talk....

So I have our calendar for DE IVF #2 (still can't believe the first didn't work, but glad to have a chance at a 2nd try) and  I am trying to take a different approach to this cycle, like telling less people, going to stay more focused on staying physically active etc...

So what changes did you make when you started your next cycles? Not  just Donor cycles, any cycles after your failed 1st cycle....  

That and I am trying to not be nervous but it's hard when you have been on the wrong side of the odds with these donor cycles.

April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

Re: Could use a pep talk....

  • I haven't changed anything really, other than I'm trying to just stay neutral.  I didn't tell anyone until after I had the BFP last time, but this time I let my Mom know.  I just wanted to have someone I could trust to call when I needed to, other than DH who is super super psyched about this one.

    Other than that, I went to a dietician and made sure I had my diet plan and nutrition goals lined up an in order.  I had an ectopic and had to to have the methotrexate injection, I wanted to be sure that I could reload the Folic Acid that was depleted and just get my energy back. She put me on a plan to regulate my blood sugar, and decrease inflammation. I felt really great up to the FET on Tuesday.

    I told her I was planning FET the first week of July so she gave me a plan post transfer, has been hard to follow because I am having to have 3 egg breakfasts, snack, big protein lunch with salad and veg, protein shake in the afternoon and more protein for supper.  I am stuffed, feel physically ill eating that much egg (I hate eggs) and really can't wait until I see her again for the next phase (which is hopefully first trimester nutrition plan).

    Oh and I took 3 weeks off for transfer and 2WW.  Just staying calm cool and collected. 

    Do what feels good for you.

    Good Luck

    P

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  • Good luck stinker bell. This is my first DE IVF and I am so nervous. DH is so hopeful and I'm having a hard time really giving in and being excited like him. As for a change In what im doing is back to the gym for cardio, no drinking, and trying to relax as much as possible. I will start up with acupuncture again probably in aug since FET is set for sept 3rd. As of today I'm really focusing on diet and lots of healthy choices.
    Me 34 and DH 39 married in aug. 2002
    Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN
     High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 
    IVF #1 May 2012  ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN
    MINI IVF Oct.2012  Cancelled 10-27-12
    Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013
    Shared cycle..Donor cycled in July Got 12 eggs 9 fertilized and 8 frozen!!
    DE FET #1 Sept. 3rd 2013 FIRST BFP EVER 5dp5dt
    miscarried Sept 24th at 5 weeks 5 days
    Etopic  D&C and hysterscopy Nov 5 2013
    dx with pre genetic blood clotting dec 2013
    FET #2 Jan 31st  2014 
    Miscarried for a second time again at 5 weeks 5 days
    Currently fostering to adopt an amazing little 1 year old boy..P.J!
    FET#3  is Oct 29th 2014
    BFN on fet #3
    Last and FINAL FET coming JAN 28th 2015
    Everyone Welcome






  • Thanks guys!

    I was like you Lacy, nervous to give in and I did, and glad I did! But it is still scary. I think our cycles are pretty close? I start med in August with a possible transfer 9/2. How did you like the acupuncture? I am thinking of trying just to help feel more "zen" hence telling only a select few people this time.  

    April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

    September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

    October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

  • We haven't officially started FET #2, but I'm going to be doing some things differently too.

    1 - I'm going to be realistic in realizing a BFP doesn't always mean a take home baby. I learned that the hard way the first time. :(

    2 - I'm not telling as many people either.

    3 - I'm not letting the medication protocol rule my life. If I want to go somewhere, I feel confident enough to bring the meds with me and do them in the bathroom if necessary.

    4 - I'm going to really try to relax more since I know the ropes now. Easier said than done!

    Good luck!

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    12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 
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    9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
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  • Thanks Liz, I guess we both are kinda thinking along the same lines as far as how to handle this next cycle.

    April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

    September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

    October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

  • Never cycled yet but just wanted to say I have everything crossed for you!!! Pp gave some great advice! GL girl!! Sending lots of positive vibes!

    ME:46 MH:44 DE IVF 2014
    Met with RE 4/11. 2 IUI's BFN. DE best option. Switched clinics to do "shared" program. Had to retake all tests and a mamm that put me behind and then on a DE waiting list for 12 months. Picked a donor!! (10/13/13) Got matched. Estimated transfer in December. After 2.5 years of patiently waiting I will finally cycle....can hardly believe it. DE cycle got cancelled. One of her tests came back positive.  Waiting for another donor. Donor picked!! (1/18/14)

    DE IVF #1 (4/26) BFN  DE FET #1 (6/4) BFP! Beta 1=339 Beta 2=852 Beta 3=9957 EDD 2/22/15!!


     

     

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  • imageBeckyP005:
    Never cycled yet but just wanted to say I have everything crossed for you!!! Pp gave some great advice! GL girl!! Sending lots of positive vibes!

    Thanks! and sending vibes that your time will come soon!

    April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

    September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

    October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

  • Hi Stinkerbell - - sorry you are feeling so nervous. I did accupuncture for my OE IVF #2 and DE IVF #1 - - it is amazing how great I feel after a session. I actually go sometimes now just to relax and focus on me more. I highly recommend it! Try to find someone who specializes in IVF but will also do some general wellness points. Good luck!

    Me:37 (DOR), DH: 40 (Normal) TTC #1 since Fall 2010
    2010-2012 - 7 rounds of Clomid, 4 IUI & 2 IVF - all BFN (2 chemical pregnancies)
    April 2013 fresh DEgg - 15R, 4F, 2 transferred = BFN.  
    FET - 11/13
    Beta #1 11/23 = 247; Beta #2 11/25 = 538; Beta #3 11/29 = 5481 BFP!!!!!
    U/s #1 12/7 & U/s #2 12/16 = One perfect little heart beat!! 
    EDD = 8/1/14

    Hope is the thing with feathers - that perches in the soul - and sings the tune without the words - and never stops - at all - (Emily Dickinson)

  • Km672Km672 member

    Hey Stinkerbell,

       I know how hard it is to keep falling on the wrong side of the odds and it's really hard to get back up.  I have tried everything, exercising, diet, acupuncture...you name it I've probably tried it.

    I have been keeping my mind off our upcoming cycle by running and exercising a lot.  I've been eating well, trying to relax, but most importantly I will be sure to take very good care of myself when our cycle begins. It's truly the little things for me. Going for a walk on the beach, getting a coffee from starbucks, cooking recipes from Pinterest, taking a relaxing bath with aromatherapy salts...

    Basically, I try to have something to look forward to every day. I spoil myself and I don't feel guilty about it. Having something to look forward to will help you get through this.

     

    Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI   (TTC#1 since 2009)

    IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN

    Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p

    DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN

    DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN

    DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN

    FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p

    DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.

    FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN

    Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus

    New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells

    FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October

     

     

     

  • Lady...Thanks so much!

    Km....I've been meaning to PM about your running :-) I am supper slow! But I run and actually even have some races on the books because last cycle I skipped registering for races "Just in case" and had nothing to fall back on, so this time around I even have one on the books right before transfer! wasn't planed that way jut what may happen. lol. I refuse to sit around and not move forward with life this time! So if I end up not able to run them, then so be it, but rather know I can if I want to.

    April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

    September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

    October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

  • Yeah we are close in cycles!!! I like acupuncture but its not my fav thing to do but it does help me relax a bit. I can only afford once a week. Thinking I may try an new acupuncturist too this time.
    Me 34 and DH 39 married in aug. 2002
    Did 5 round of clomid 2010 =BFN
     High levels of NK CELLS DX sept.2012 DOR:# 0.02 
    IVF #1 May 2012  ER 4, EF 2, ET 2 =BFN
    MINI IVF Oct.2012  Cancelled 10-27-12
    Ivf #3 Antagonist Protocol April 2013
    Shared cycle..Donor cycled in July Got 12 eggs 9 fertilized and 8 frozen!!
    DE FET #1 Sept. 3rd 2013 FIRST BFP EVER 5dp5dt
    miscarried Sept 24th at 5 weeks 5 days
    Etopic  D&C and hysterscopy Nov 5 2013
    dx with pre genetic blood clotting dec 2013
    FET #2 Jan 31st  2014 
    Miscarried for a second time again at 5 weeks 5 days
    Currently fostering to adopt an amazing little 1 year old boy..P.J!
    FET#3  is Oct 29th 2014
    BFN on fet #3
    Last and FINAL FET coming JAN 28th 2015
    Everyone Welcome






  • Km672Km672 member

    sorry for the late response...TB is still not working on my phone.

    ummm...you run way longer and way faster than me!! I have been running for about 3 years now (on and off because of IF treatments). I'm really slow and I don't run far, but I love it-

    I agree. I am going to continue to keep registering for races until my transfer date. It keeps me motivated and I am really sick of living my life around IF. I feel like we put so many things on hold because of it and I refuse to give up running until I have a good reason to...

    Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI   (TTC#1 since 2009)

    IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN

    Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p

    DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN

    DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN

    DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN

    FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p

    DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.

    FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN

    Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus

    New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells

    FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October

     

     

     

  • The bump is acting so weird for me! ummm. Well I am glad your going to keep running! Until we are told otherwise! Right? lol. 

    April 2013 DE IVF= BFN

    September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...

    October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C

  • MrsT4MrsT4 member

    Just wanted to send big (((HUGS))) your way Stinkerbell! 

    I'm feeling similarly nervous about my second donor cycle (although mine will be FET, not fresh)...regardless, I'm hoping the second time is a charm for both of us....hang in there!! 

    Oh and this time around, I'll be using my relaxation tapes (Circle + Bloom) from the start of the cycle.  Last time I bought the tapes just before transfer, so I didn't really have a chance to take full advantage of them.

    Me: AMA, DOR, undetectable AMH, carrier of SMA, MTHFR homozygous C677T, high cytokines, low IGg B cells, Factor XIII V34l mutation, High Anti-Phosphatidylethanolmine, borderline hypothyroid and mildly insulin resistant.

     

    MH: No known issues, aside from MTHFR.

     

    Recommendations from RI: LIT, Humira, IVIG, Lovenox, Baby Aspirin, Folic Acid, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.

     

    Currently taking:  Pre-Natal vitamins, Foltanx, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin. 

     

    When cycling also taking: Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, Humira and IVIG.

     

    TTC since 7/11/09..with medical intervention starting in 2010, including 4 failed IVF's and 6 failed IUI's...only "success" was a chemical pregnancy in 11/2012 (credited to use of DE).

    FET #1 (11th cycle) on 8/23/13 = BFN.

    FET #2 (12th cycle) Transfer of last two (day 6) donor egg blasts on 1/22/14 = BFP, EDD = 10/10/14 (please stick little BOY!)

     

    My favorite breed:

     

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