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Any experience with "all special ed" class causing negative behaviors?

Hi Everyone,

We finally had our CPSE meeting and Mia will be enrolling in the "8" class which means a group of 8 kids, all with IEPs, plus 1 special ed teacher, and 2 aids.

The admin did caution me that kids in the "8" class can have serious behavior problems, so we'll have to check out this particular group on the first day, and maybe move Mia up if that is the case (although she is very low functioning, she is not at all aggressive, and she does have some language and imitates, so they don't want her to pick up "bad habits")

Does anyone else have experience with placing their child in this type of setting? (Like, not integrated at all). Was it good for your child or bad? I liked the teachers at this place, so I think Mia will get more attention this way and be able to follow along with the program well enough to actually benefit.

Re: Any experience with "all special ed" class causing negative behaviors?

  • I'm sorry- I know my language is poor around these issues, and I probably sound less sensitive than I am. I'm just coming from weeks dealing with the NYC board of ed, and the way these people talk about parents, children and schools alike is pretty disgusting. Ironically, I guess I'm picking up the "bad habits" they warned me my child would pick up in the wrong classroom. (And yes, that was my argument exactly. If she has autism, she's not picking up anything!)

    Anyway, I taught English in a small private school, and I should probably explain better what I meant with that last paragraph: The school had no nurse and no special education teacher. At all. Still, we had a few parents enroll their kids in our school who had severe brain damage or extremely low processing (like, scoring in the 2nd percentile on their standardized tests). And yet, some of these parents had NEVER even gotten their children tested.

    I felt that our head of school accepted these children to collect their tuition money, and that we were failing them by expecting them to just "float along" in mainstream classes with no structured support. I mean, yes, as a gen ed teacher, I was able to differentiate instruction and work with the kids one on one. And I LOVED these kids. Seriously. But that's why the situation made me so angry. I knew they needed more support (even physically in some cases as we'd have kids literally having seizures and no nurse on staff!) 

    So yeah, I just meant that I know how sometimes kids that aren't behavior problems can "float along" but then not actually get the kind of intense one on one help that would really benefit them. I mean, I'd ask one of these kids, "I saw you put your head down in math. Why?" And he'd just look at me and be like, "I'm sorry but I don't understand anything that's happening." Because he simply couldn't process the material at that speed. So, instead, he wasn't processing anything at all.

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  • In my experiece, my DS has PDD-NOS and did have behavior problems in his special ed class and at his daycare last year.

    I pretty much tried to get him as much services as I could privately. It was 2 hours a week then and I had to up therapy by 4 hours. At six hours, we are spending every spare time helping DS.

    I got fed up with both the school and the daycare. And you know what I did? I was in constant communication because both teachers were asking me for help with DS in school and daycare! The daycare did not listen and the school teacher did not listen. The daycare did not even have patience enough for therapy to show progress.

    I find fault that the teachers in both situations were not trained enough to handle DS. It is not my fault they cannot handle the classroom management. I did my utmost to help and it was no use. We moved daycares since last December. And I hope we get a good teacher in August for the Autism class sponsored by the University.

    If behavioral problems are an issue in the classroom then I guess you don't have a good teacher in your hands! They can be trained and certified but that doesn't even guarantee a good teacher.

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  • DS spent majority of 2 years in 8:1:1 day treatment placement. Aggressive behavior was introduced to my son.  It was awful. With that said, I think it had to do with administrative neglect.  We are seeking new/similar placement in the fAll.  Good luck. follow your gut instinct and visit classroom more than once before you decide 
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