Not that anyone cares, not that it even matters, but, I want you all to know (as I posted in the threads but it probably got skipped over for the most part) that I do not believe some of the points I was arguing. I believe that BFing is totally natural, normal, and best for all babies and mothers who are able to do it. However, if someone isn't able to, or feels uncomfortable doing it, we should not chastise and bully them into thinking they are a bad person.
The entire reason I even posted those things, was because some of you are so pro breast feeding that you forget to care about how other women feel. Some people are uncomfortable seeing others breast feed in public. Some are only uncomfortable when they see a nipple hanging out. Some people are offended by seeing other peoples toes, or seeing fat women in short shorts, or seeing a woman wearing a nighty and a plaid button down to walmart. Someone somewhere is going to be offended by everything every single thing one of us does.
Knocking these women/people who are uncomfortable, calling them immature, arguing with them as to why they are so wrong, is doing the exact same thing as people arguing with you, judging you, being offended by you doing what you feel is natural. You are no better shoving your pro-breast feeding opinion down someones throat, than someone who is anti-breastfeeding trying to shove their opinion down yours.
Most everyone here believes that BFing is best, natural, and shouldn't be covered. Most people "on the outside" don't believe that. Whether you believe they are ignorant, immature, oversexualized, or whatever you think they are does not change their opinion, and doesn't change your opinion. When you begin using your body and your child to prove your point politically to others, you become a hypocrite. Instead of your breasts being only for your childs nourishment, you have turned them into a prop. They've become a picket sign.
Everyone has the right to picket and protest, so continue purposely exposing yourself to spite other people, I don't care. You will argue your way all the way to the supreme court if someone attempted to prosecute you I'm sure. But please, don't judge other women because they don't agree with you. We all want what we think is best for our children.
Some of you are truly insensitive to others feelings, and that is why I made such a big deal out of those two posts. I intend to BF my child for as long as I intend to, and I intend to cover myself as much as possible. If it interferes with them eating or makes them uncomfortable, then I will adjust as necessary. But I refuse to share what I feel is bonding and private time with the rest of the world, because that is what I want and feel is best and right for me and my child.
Ok, if you read this you get some spam sushi. But I can't post a pic because safari hates me and we're back to the stupid old bump for now.
I'm going to go let my boyfriend touch my boobs now.
Re: To Clarify (probably the longest post you've ever read)
Enjoy being fondled by your boyfriend!
Yes, the OPs were not about those things, but the responses they got became about those things. This was not about the OPs, but rather about the women who shame others. I would go back and quote, but I'm too tired to do that, and my "O" key just feel off of my laptop, so its making it very difficult to type. (Unrelated: you don't realize how many words have O's until you start typing without one)
This wasn't really a rant, I didn't want it to come off that way, I wanted it to be more of a "pay attention to how you're doing exactly what you hate" post. And most of it wasn't directed towards you. None of it actually. It was directed to clear the air about my personal opinion, which is mostly not what I was arguing, but also to those who were shaming and judging others (not just that other OP) for not believing the same thing as they did.
Yes, the OPs were not about those things, but the responses they got became about those things. This was not about the OPs, but rather about the women who shame others. I would go back and quote, but I'm too tired to do that, and my "O" key just feel off of my laptop, so its making it very difficult to type. (Unrelated: you don't realize how many words have O's until you start typing without one)
This wasn't really a rant, I didn't want it to come off that way, I wanted it to be more of a "pay attention to how you're doing exactly what you hate" post. And most of it wasn't directed towards you. None of it actually. It was directed to clear the air about my personal opinion, which is mostly not what I was arguing, but also to those who were shaming and judging others (not just that other OP) for not believing the same thing as they did.
I'm going to clarify, again, because you still misread my opinion. I never once said "I feel sorry for those that choose not to breast feed in public or at all." What I said was I feel sorry for how society views the beauty of the human body. That is my personal opinion and not a platform for you to then assume I'm trying to make anyone feel bad for their own personal views. I don't believe in shoving my own personal views down anyone's throat, since I detest it when someone does it to me. The rest of my post was a mere expression of what I see as beauty and plan to do.
I'd appreciate if next time you would not put words in my mouth and read more carefully. Your final words to all on that post were beyond rude and over the top and that, I believe, is where most of the flack came from. This is why I tend to avoid most of the "hot topic" threads, since I dislike how fast it all turns nasty. Thanks for the reminder to continue to avoid them, I definitely learned my lesson!
Thats usually my feeling exactly, but it really bothered me today, so I chose to go totally to the opposite end of the spectrum just because.
Thanks! I'm sure it will be enjoyable, once he actually gets here! Lol =D
I'm sorry you feel so butt hurt because of my opinion. Now you know how it feels.
Batmandi, I feel like you're being extremely hypocritical. You say that you've read some insensitive posts, and seem to be upset that people are making others feel bad for the way they choose to feed their baby (covering up, not BFing, etc). But yet you don't seem to have a problem with others saying a mom SHOULD cover up.
I have no issue with people who are uncomfortable with BFing, or don't want to do it, or think nipples are ugly. I do see a big problem when they want a BFing mom to COVER UP. It's totally fine if you want to cover up when you BF, or if you go hide in the bathroom or go to your car, or if you only BF at home because it's the only place you feel comfortable doing it, or if you never ever breastfeed for whatever reason. That's great, do what is best for you and your baby.
When someone wants to infringe upon the rights of a mother to feed her child, however she sees fit, that is when I get upset.
Didn't you get enough attention today? Time for you to go get your kicks elsewhere. Move on. Most of us have.
ETA: This post was a treat to read after you told us how you wished we all fail at BFing.
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I'm sorry it came across that way, but actually your last sentence is exactly what made me angry as well. I didn't mention about people telling women to cover up because that is not the issue in the setting, but I 100% agree, women shouldn't feel bullied or shamed into covering up, or not covering up. I didn't necessarily agree with the original post, it was the comments that irked me.
No, I absolutely did NOT say that. You need to reread it again, as well as the post I was responding to. I would not wish that on anyone.
ETA: This is what was said (edited out quote trees and additional post that was unrelated"
tl;dr batmandi's whole post but this is the crux of the issue. The OP in the other thread was suggesting that it was inappropriate for a mother to feed her child WITHOUT covering up and many people defended that argument. I think most of the posts that disagreed stated that a woman is not required to cover up while BFing just because she might be making some people uncomfortable.
Oh and for the record I BFed my son. He wasn't gaining weight because I was not producing fat in my milk. We tried several diet changes and methods to try and raise the fat level in my milk so that I could continue to BF. It didn't work. We had to supplement with formula, and he began to refuse the boob at 5.5 months. So no, BFing wasn't perfect for me, and I had to give it up and was devastated.
For you to spout cr@p that you have no first hand experience about really irks me because I fought so hard for something that just wouldn't work for me.
Here's an idea, if you aren't comfortable with something, don't do it. If you don't want to see a baby eating, don't look at it. You are being so unreasonable, and shoving YOUR opinion down every one else's throat while accusing us of doing the same.
I'm so over you.
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Yes yes and yes.
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I just want to know if she eats with a blanket on her head. After all, the face could be used for sexual purposes.
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This post is so full of illogical nonsense, I don't even know where to start. First of all, public breastfeeding is legal in 45 states and the District of Columbia. It's even legal where I live, in Kansas, possibly the most azz-backwards, conservative state in the union. So your opinion that either someone might be prosecuted for BFing or that the 'majority' of people don't like public BFing is just wrong. If a bunch of old white dudes in Kansas say I can BF anyplace I have a legal right to be, then you know we're reaching a socially normative state.
Secondly, though we may 'judge' or 'be offended by' overweight people in short shorts, with exposed toes, etc, the difference is that nobody but a crazy person would go up to some stranger in public and say, excuse me good lady but I have an extreme phobia regarding bare feet, would you mind slipping on these socks? But people all across the country seem to think it's alright to ask nursing women to cover what is exposed no less than what is seen in a low-cut t shirt.
Thirdly, please find and quote for me the post where it was stated that all women should BF in public with no cover, or judging women for not doing so. The only thing that was judged was the OP's original judgment/desire not to have her husband see nursing. Nobody here said they were BFing in public with no cover to make a statement- they said that the cover didn't work for them for whatever reason, and they felt no obligation to compromise their BFing unnecessarily. All of this was in response to an OP who blatantly stated she judged another woman for not covering, and about her husband seeing the breasts, so that of course is what the responses were ABOUT.
That's what I'm saying!! What does YOUR discomfort or batmandi's discomfort have to do with the price of tea in China? NOBODY is saying you have to bare your breasts in public!
It seems like this is happening too:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/missouri-mom-booted-water-park-bikini-finds-online-support-article-1.1393037
To anyone who doesn't want to waste their time reading this, here's the best line of the whole article, [In regards to whether she will sue the waterpark...] "?I have always felt that this is a God thing, and if God lands a big city lawyer in my lap, I will take him.?
Ha, that's like 50 miles from where I live. I notice they didn't show any shots of what that bathing suit looked like from behind. But unless it was a thong or something, I see nothing wrong with her suit. AND you can't even see her nips!