Good times continue on 1st Tri...

natleilynn · July 2013

Mobile: Good times continue on 1st Tri...

Sorry not clicky, I'm on a mac.

https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/75246301.aspx

Quick recap, she wants to know if having pot in her system will get cps called and MUD is apparently a new police organization.

lp0 · July 2013

I think it's mud too. The fact she mentioned government assistant leads me to believe she was bating people into the argument.

MEP923 · July 2013

gwinnygirl:
I think the quick call for the post as MUD & people being snatchy to her was uncalled for.
If it's true - she's young & trying to figure her shiit out. Clearly she has some maturity to work on, but to put her on blast for needing assistance was wrong on so many levels.

I'm blasting her for saying Hi my name is Katie and I am pregnant. I am going to use government assistance.

Honestly, I don't judge anyone who seriously needs it but so many people take advantage of it and putting it out there like that to so many people makes me think she is one of the people who takes advantage of it. There are so many things you can say at the thought of a new baby like excitement or your plans for the future or anything other than government aid. We have teenage girls in my town who get pregnant (sometimes multiple times) so they or their families can have more government aid. This sounds like that to me.

golfingdarwinfish · July 2013

Well, there's all sorts of crazy in that thread.

Mills0309 · July 2013

gwinnygirl:
I think the quick call for the post as MUD amp; people being snatchy to her was uncalled for.If it's true she's young amp; trying to figure her shiit out. Clearly she has some maturity to work on, but to put her on blast for needing assistance was wrong on so many levels.

This. She is obviously young and trying to straighten up for her baby. She's just a young girl who needs alot of help it sounds like.

malamutemommy · July 2013

MEP923:
gwinnygirl:
I think the quick call for the post as MUD & people being snatchy to her was uncalled for.
If it's true - she's young & trying to figure her shiit out. Clearly she has some maturity to work on, but to put her on blast for needing assistance was wrong on so many levels.
I'm blasting her for saying Hi my name is Katie and I am pregnant. I am going to use government assistance.
Honestly, I don't judge anyone who seriously needs it but so many people take advantage of it and putting it out there like that to so many people makes me think she is one of the people who takes advantage of it. There are so many things you can say at the thought of a new baby like excitement or your plans for the future or anything other than government aid. We have teenage girls in my town who get pregnant (sometimes multiple times) so they or their families can have more government aid. This sounds like that to me.

I think she was saying that so people knew she would get help. She has a plan to finish nursing school, and she also works so I don't think she is abusing the system. I've seen plenty of people abusing the system in the medical field, and she honestly doesn't sound like one of them. She's young, and new to the site, so she probably had no idea that it would have been considered flame worthy.

She flew off the handle at posters a few times which makes her seem really immature, but honestly, she is. She's still a teenager. And some of the responses were a little unnecessary.

She's going to need government assistance for awhile if she wants to keep her head above water and keep her child. Just because she said she plans on using it doesn't mean she's going to abuse it.

ETA: I'm all for calling out MUD and having snark, but i still don't think her post is MUD.

MEP923 · July 2013

malamutemommy:
MEP923:
gwinnygirl:
I think the quick call for the post as MUD & people being snatchy to her was uncalled for.
If it's true - she's young & trying to figure her shiit out. Clearly she has some maturity to work on, but to put her on blast for needing assistance was wrong on so many levels.
I'm blasting her for saying Hi my name is Katie and I am pregnant. I am going to use government assistance.
Honestly, I don't judge anyone who seriously needs it but so many people take advantage of it and putting it out there like that to so many people makes me think she is one of the people who takes advantage of it. There are so many things you can say at the thought of a new baby like excitement or your plans for the future or anything other than government aid. We have teenage girls in my town who get pregnant (sometimes multiple times) so they or their families can have more government aid. This sounds like that to me.
I think she was saying that so people knew she would get help. She has a plan to finish nursing school, and she also works so I don't think she is abusing the system. I've seen plenty of people abusing the system in the medical field, and she honestly doesn't sound like one of them. She's young, and new to the site, so she probably had no idea that it would have been considered flame worthy.
She flew off the handle at posters a few times which makes her seem really immature, but honestly, she is. She's still a teenager. And some of the responses were a little unnecessary.
She's going to need government assistance for awhile if she wants to keep her head above water and keep her child. Just because she said she plans on using it doesn't mean she's going to abuse it.
ETA: I'm all for calling out MUD and having snark, but i still don't think her post is MUD.

I understand what you are saying. Now that she is pregnant she will need it. I just think it is a strange thing to start out with. I think all people say I plan to go to school and I plan to do this but they don't. So I hope she at least does it. I just unfortunately know a lot of people in this situation who get aid, sit at home and never wind up doing anything. They realize how much aid they are getting because of their child and they keep popping out more. The fact that this was the very first thing she said made me think she may be like that. I was young when I had DS, I wasn't ready but I grew up and made it work without ever going on financial aid. Like I said, I don't judge people that do and I spent a lot of time debating it but it was not the first thing I would have announced to people.

ETA: I'm not trying to argue someone being on financial aid who needs it. By ANY means. I just know in the real world some young girls, get pregnant sit at home on financial aid and just keep popping out more. DH had to work at a high school where this happened often. It is one of the many reasons he left and got a job in a completely different field.

bethLenell · July 2013

malamutemommy:
I don't really think it's MUD. If you read the whole post, it doesn't seem like it is.
She was concerned if smoking pot before she was pregnant would cause harm to the baby or if her doctor would test for it and call CPS if it came back positive. She's young, she probably doesn't know any of this stuff.

This!

She really came back and explained herself a little better and also stated that she is/wants to go to school for nursing to provide for her and her LO. It really seems like she's just a scared kid who wants to keep her kid.

MEP923 · July 2013

gwinnygirl:
There's no shame in public assistance.
Not every young person figures it out right away - not every older person does. Many people need help. I lived my WHOLE life up until college on government assistance. Perpetuating the myth of the Welfare Queen using anecdotal evidence will never sit right with me.
MEP - You're saying you're not judging but it is sure coming off that way. Your situation has absolutely zero to do with anyone else.

Unfortunately, it is true to the other PP. DH worked in a low income town. I am fully aware this is not the norm for everywhere. Unfortunately, in some places it really is true whether you believe it or not. And Gwinny I don't disagree with you. Trust me, I debated using aid many times. And I technically was on it if you want to count Medicaid because me and my son were both on it. I don't judge people that use government aid and are bettering themselves. ALL I am saying is you can't deny people take advantage of it. People stay on unemployment for years and don't actually go out and look for other work the whole time. I don't see how you can say that never happens. I can personally tell you people that I know that have sat on it for years and didn't fill out one application. That's what I judge. I don't think it's meant for that. That's all I am saying.

MEP923 · July 2013

bethLenell:
malamutemommy:
I don't really think it's MUD. If you read the whole post, it doesn't seem like it is.
She was concerned if smoking pot before she was pregnant would cause harm to the baby or if her doctor would test for it and call CPS if it came back positive. She's young, she probably doesn't know any of this stuff.

This!
She really came back and explained herself a little better and also stated that she is/wants to go to school for nursing to provide for her and her LO. It really seems like she's just a scared kid who wants to keep her kid.

I actually didn't see this. I browsed the post and every single response I saw from her was her cursing people off. I'm not trying to put down someone that is going to better themselves while pregnant. Trust me, I did the same. Just the parts of the post I saw did not put her in the best light.

ETA: And when I say didn't put her in the best light I mean she started her post saying she was using assistance and smoking pot. Made a comment that sounded like she may still smoke cigarettes, and then cursed everyone off and came off like a very angry immature person. I'm sorry NONE of this made me think she was ready to be a mother. Period. Maybe I should have read the entire post. I didn't have time to read the 5 pages so I browsed it. Which is my fault. I obviously missed things that other people saw because I've seen people get flamed on here for far less than what I saw. So I do apologize for that. I won't comment on things unless I can read it all because I obviously missed something.

insertclevername · July 2013

This is one of those times where TB pisses me off. Her post doesn't sound like MUD. It sounds like a young woman who was maybe not making the best choices and ended up pregnant. Temporary assistance is meant for cases such as this. She is pregnant, needs medical care, some assistance and help with her education. She doesn't sound like she plans to sit on the couch and eat bon bons all day. FFS, what people on temporary assistance get is almost nothing. I promise they are not living in the lap of luxury. Insinuating she is a Welfare Queen and that she is abusing the system is pretty judgmental and ignorant.

Effin people and their NO SKITTLES FOR POOR PEOPLE mentality.

Edited for clarity. This topic makes me heated.

MEP923 · July 2013

And when I say didn't put her in the best light I mean she started her post saying she was using assistance and smoking pot. Made a comment that sounded like she may still smoke cigarettes, and then cursed everyone off and came off like a very angry immature person. I'm sorry NONE of this made me think she was ready to be a mother. Period. Maybe I should have read the entire post. I didn't have time to read the 5 pages so I browsed it. Which is my fault. I obviously missed things that other people saw because I've seen people get flamed on here for far less than what I saw. So I do apologize for that. I won't comment on things unless I can read it all because I obviously missed something.

I'm reposting my ETA so people see it. I am SORRY. I didn't mean to come off like that. Like I said I didn't read the whole post and I obviously caught parts that made her look like something she wasn't. By the time I got the post it was 5 full pages and it came off a completely different way when I was browsing it.

insertclevername · July 2013

gwinnygirl:
NY Mama:
This is one of those times where TB pisses me off. Her post doesn't sound like MUD. It sounds like a young woman who was maybe not making the best choices and ended up pregnant. Temporary assistance is meant for cases such as this. She is pregnant, needs medical care, some assistance and help with her education. She doesn't sound like she plans to sit on the couch and eat bon bons all day. FFS, that people on Temporary assistance get is almost nothing. I promise they are not living in the lap of luxury. Insinuating she is a Welfare Queen and that she is abusing the system is pretty judgmental and ignorant.
Effin people and their NO SKITTLES FOR POOR PEOPLE mentality.
Please run away with me.
I heard South Beach is beautiful this time of year.

Only if we can hold hands and watch the sunset

MEP923 · July 2013

justAphase:
Also, backpedaling. You're a pro, MEP.

A pro at what? I said something out of line and I apologized? Back pedaling what? I'm not getting caught up in TB drama. I apologized. Maybe I am jaded because we had to live in a town for a few year and DH had to work in a town where a lot of people milk the system unfortunately. I don't mean to be. I read the post wrong very obviously, I apologized. That's really all I can do. I'm not trying to play a game, genuinely apologizing.

insertclevername · July 2013

NY Mama:
gwinnygirl:
NY Mama:
This is one of those times where TB pisses me off. Her post doesn't sound like MUD. It sounds like a young woman who was maybe not making the best choices and ended up pregnant. Temporary assistance is meant for cases such as this. She is pregnant, needs medical care, some assistance and help with her education. She doesn't sound like she plans to sit on the couch and eat bon bons all day. FFS, that people on Temporary assistance get is almost nothing. I promise they are not living in the lap of luxury. Insinuating she is a Welfare Queen and that she is abusing the system is pretty judgmental and ignorant.
Effin people and their NO SKITTLES FOR POOR PEOPLE mentality.

Please run away with me.
I heard South Beach is beautiful this time of year.
Only if we can hold hands and watch the sunset

I have been questioning lately why I left the oasis of South Beach to venture back on to other Bump boards. I may just not be ready. I am experiencing some PTSD from the first go around in 2010.

Edited to fix quotes

bethLenell · July 2013

MEP923:
And when I say didn't put her in the best light I mean she started her post saying she was using assistance and smoking pot. Made a comment that sounded like she may still smoke cigarettes, and then cursed everyone off and came off like a very angry immature person. I'm sorry NONE of this made me think she was ready to be a mother. Period. Maybe I should have read the entire post. I didn't have time to read the 5 pages so I browsed it. Which is my fault. I obviously missed things that other people saw because I've seen people get flamed on here for far less than what I saw. So I do apologize for that. I won't comment on things unless I can read it all because I obviously missed something.
I'm reposting my ETA so people see it. I am SORRY. I didn't mean to come off like that. Like I said I didn't read the whole post and I obviously caught parts that made her look like something she wasn't. By the time I got the post it was 5 full pages and it came off a completely different way when I was browsing it.

You are not the only one who missed her posting the not swearing stuff. It seems like she is trying to focus on the positive assistance and advice she was given and is still willing to defend herself against the judgement some placed on her. That to me says it isn't MUD and we just might be seeing more of her here on TB.

MEP923 · July 2013

bethLenell:
MEP923:
And when I say didn't put her in the best light I mean she started her post saying she was using assistance and smoking pot. Made a comment that sounded like she may still smoke cigarettes, and then cursed everyone off and came off like a very angry immature person. I'm sorry NONE of this made me think she was ready to be a mother. Period. Maybe I should have read the entire post. I didn't have time to read the 5 pages so I browsed it. Which is my fault. I obviously missed things that other people saw because I've seen people get flamed on here for far less than what I saw. So I do apologize for that. I won't comment on things unless I can read it all because I obviously missed something.
I'm reposting my ETA so people see it. I am SORRY. I didn't mean to come off like that. Like I said I didn't read the whole post and I obviously caught parts that made her look like something she wasn't. By the time I got the post it was 5 full pages and it came off a completely different way when I was browsing it.
You are not the only one who missed her posting the not swearing stuff. It seems like she is trying to focus on the positive assistance and advice she was given and is still willing to defend herself against the judgement some placed on her. That to me says it isn't MUD and we just might be seeing more of her here on TB.

The posts I saw of her were her literally cursing. I've seen people get majorly flamed on this board for using words like "jackbutt" so when you see multiple posts of cursing and name calling it just came off immature and combative to me. Unfortunately, I didn't see any of the posts of her explaining herself which was my mistake. I should have read the whole thing. I will apologize to her. I don't want to judge anyone. Like I said I spent years with DH living in a very low income town. I know people judge people who just live there and it is very annoying because I know not everyone that lives there is like that. So I should have known better and I apologize.

MEP923 · July 2013

Cashingn2:
MEP923:

justAphase:
Also, backpedaling. You're a pro, MEP.

A pro at what? I said something out of line and I apologized? Back pedaling what? I'm not getting caught up in TB drama. I apologized. Maybe I am jaded because we had to live in a town for a few year and DH had to work in a town where a lot of people milk the system unfortunately. I don't mean to be. I read the post wrong very obviously, I apologized. That's really all I can do. I'm not trying to play a game, genuinely apologizing.

I took it this way initially too. It honestly took some thorough browsing through that post to realize what exactly she meant. She explained herself several times before she really cleared it up. The people saying these things to you have clearly not had a lot of interaction with you on here. I know a lot of people that abuse the system, members of my own family even so I am skeptical of it. At the same time, I have applied for assistance and been turned down when I needed it. But PP was right, my situation has nothing to do with hers. She is a young, single mother who seems to really need the help.

Edit: I honestly have no clue what you said to her so I can't say anything about that

I agree with everything you said. And in all my posts on here I've never said anything offensive. I think anyone who posts here knows I am not a judgmental rude person. Although, I don't blame them for thinking that off that comment. I'm having a bad day and I read half a post and it was 100 percent my own fault. I apologized to her.

MoonlitPlumeria · July 2013

MEP923:
justAphase:
Also, backpedaling. You're a pro, MEP.
A pro at what? I said something out of line and I apologized? Back pedaling what? I'm not getting caught up in TB drama. I apologized. Maybe I am jaded because we had to live in a town for a few year and DH had to work in a town where a lot of people milk the system unfortunately. I don't mean to be. I read the post wrong very obviously, I apologized. That's really all I can do. I'm not trying to play a game, genuinely apologizing.

I've seen plenty of people take advantage of assistance. Heck, I'm related to quite a few by marriages. And my mom was a juvenile probation officer and had a bunch of examples of people bilking the system. But guess what... I still don't generalize and assume the worst of people. I don't automatically assume that people on assistance sit around popping out kid after kid just because I watched my SIL do that. You can't use that as an excuse. It's a way that YOU choose to see the world.

MEP923 · July 2013

MoonlitPlumeria:
MEP923:
justAphase:
Also, backpedaling. You're a pro, MEP.
A pro at what? I said something out of line and I apologized? Back pedaling what? I'm not getting caught up in TB drama. I apologized. Maybe I am jaded because we had to live in a town for a few year and DH had to work in a town where a lot of people milk the system unfortunately. I don't mean to be. I read the post wrong very obviously, I apologized. That's really all I can do. I'm not trying to play a game, genuinely apologizing.
I've seen plenty of people take advantage of assistance. Heck, I'm related to quite a few by marriages. And my mom was a juvenile probation officer and had a bunch of examples of people bilking the system. But guess what... I still don't generalize and assume the worst of people. I don't automatically assume that people on assistance sit around popping out kid after kid just because I watched my SIL do that. You can't use that as an excuse. It's a way that YOU choose to see the world.

I said I didn't read the whole post. Just like you clearly didn't read this whole post because I apologized many times (and I even apologized to her) and said I don't want to judge anyone. That's all I can do. I really can't say anything beyond that.

MEP923 · July 2013

Trust me I won't. If I don't have time to read the whole thread I'm just going to ignore it.

zou bisou · July 2013

MEP923:
I think anyone who posts here knows I am not a judgmental rude person. Although, I don't blame them for thinking that off that comment. I'm having a bad day and I read half a post and it was 100 percent my own fault. I apologized to her.

I'll vouch for you. I've never found your posts offensive. You apologized in a way that seems sincere to me. Most would be too stubborn to back down. That's credit to you.

I am surprised at how that thread turned. The OP came out swinging at people fast and early, and all that got a free pass. I wouldn't have predicted it to go like that.

insertclevername · July 2013

MEP, for what it is worth, I respect that you apologized. Not that you really care what I think, but I appreciate that you were willing to admit you didn't read everything and made judgements on misinformation.

insertclevername · July 2013

zou bisou:
I am surprised at how that thread turned. The OP came out swinging at people fast and early, and all that got a free pass. I wouldn't have predicted it to go like that.

Honestly, if I were in the OP's shoes I would have come out swinging as well. Luckily, there were a lot of great ladies that responded to the OP and helped her to clarify her situation.

MEP923 · July 2013

NY Mama:
MEP, for what it is worth, I respect that you apologized.nbsp; Not that you really care what I think, but I appreciate that you were willing to admit you didn't read everything and made judgements on misinformation.

I really do care what you all think. I have gotten a lot of information and yes even, support on this board. I take what all you girls say into consideration and I hope you guys know my apology was real. I honestly feel really bad and am mad at myself.

insertclevername · July 2013

Cashingn2:
NY Mama:
MEP, for what it is worth, I respect that you apologized. Not that you really care what I think, but I appreciate that you were willing to admit you didn't read everything and made judgements on misinformation.

Agreed! Now, that Stephanie girl was WAY over the line. My jaw dropped reading her. I hope they flamed her on her BMB!

I was debating about calling her out on her comments on the January 14' BMB since I post there, but that board is pretty drama free for now. I don't want to be the one to bring drama to the board because I kind of like the mellow vibe there. She has said some other side eye worthy stuff as well. She is a judgy sanctimommy to the max. I am sure that will be made evident in time.

insertclevername · July 2013

Cashingn2:
NY Mama:
zou bisou:

I am surprised at how that thread turned. The OP came out swinging at people fast and early, and all that got a free pass. I wouldn't have predicted it to go like that.

Honestly, if I were in the OP's shoes I would have come out swinging as well. Luckily, there were a lot of great ladies that responded to the OP and helped her to clarify her situation.

and I think the key information is that she is 19. I was so hot headed at 19 that I would have swung back even harder than she did. Yes, there was a chance that it's MUD, but I don't think people realized that she wanted advice to HELP her child. Yes she was concerned about not testing positve for pot, but she was concerned because she didn't want to lose custody of a baby she didn't even mean to have. I think that says a lot.

Absolutely all of this.

blainethetrain · July 2013

Really, I think that post should be referred to when people complain about "lack of support". I really liked that despite her lack of posts, a lot of people jumped to her defense, even against more veteran posters. It warmed the cockles of my heart.

lp0 · July 2013

I think people jumped on her quickly and called mud because she used poor wording in her initial post. She said she was on public assistance because that's what it's there for. It sounded like she was trying to push buttons. For those who thought it wasn't mud, it made her sound like she was abusing the system. She definitely shouldn't have led with that or said it the way she did. I think she would have gotten a lot less backlash and more helpful responses had she said it differently.

malamutemommy · July 2013

Cashingn2:
bethLenell:
malamutemommy:

I don't really think it's MUD. If you read the whole post, it doesn't seem like it is.

She was concerned if smoking pot before she was pregnant would cause harm to the baby or if her doctor would test for it and call CPS if it came back positive. She's young, she probably doesn't know any of this stuff.  

 

This!

She really came back and explained herself a little better and also stated that she is/wants to go to school for nursing to provide for her and her LO. It really seems like she's just a scared kid who wants to keep her kid.

 

Agreed with this and I think malamutemommy gave her excellent advice.

Why thank you ma'am. But don't forget, we're still Mean Girls! wink wink

malamutemommy · July 2013

MEP923:
Cashingn2:
MEP923:

justAphase:
Also, backpedaling. You're a pro, MEP.

A pro at what? I said something out of line and I apologized? Back pedaling what? I'm not getting caught up in TB drama. I apologized. Maybe I am jaded because we had to live in a town for a few year and DH had to work in a town where a lot of people milk the system unfortunately. I don't mean to be. I read the post wrong very obviously, I apologized. That's really all I can do. I'm not trying to play a game, genuinely apologizing.

I took it this way initially too. It honestly took some thorough browsing through that post to realize what exactly she meant. She explained herself several times before she really cleared it up. The people saying these things to you have clearly not had a lot of interaction with you on here. I know a lot of people that abuse the system, members of my own family even so I am skeptical of it. At the same time, I have applied for assistance and been turned down when I needed it. But PP was right, my situation has nothing to do with hers. She is a young, single mother who seems to really need the help.

Edit: I honestly have no clue what you said to her so I can't say anything about that
I agree with everything you said. And in all my posts on here I've never said anything offensive. I think anyone who posts here knows I am not a judgmental rude person. Although, I don't blame them for thinking that off that comment. I'm having a bad day and I read half a post and it was 100 percent my own fault. I apologized to her.

Also, I almost didn't read everything in that post either, and just about put something real snarky, so... it happens. You apologized so whatever. OLD NEWS, YOU GUYS. Moving on.

AGriffin620 · July 2013

Wow, that took me about half an hour to read...and now I'm craving Skittles for some odd reason.
Now I need to read everyone's comments on this thread.
::mobile smile::

MEP923 · July 2013

malamutemommy:

I took it this way initially too. It honestly took some thorough browsing through that post to realize what exactly she meant. She explained herself several times before she really cleared it up. The] Also, I almost didn't read everything in that post either, and just about put something real snarky, so... it happens. You apologized so whatever. OLD NEWS, YOU GUYS. Moving on.

Thank you...

elvinnoe · July 2013

They definitely changed everything. From what I've seen so far, I don't like it at all.

rjeller32 · July 2013

You can't delete anymore, and to join there is a 3 day wait period, most likely to get rid of all the MUD. I'll miss the crazies..lol

robyn2201 · July 2013

Posts from different boards and showing up on boards that they were not started on. It's a mess and confusing!

ShaunaT25 · July 2013

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perfectlove09 · July 2013

j3nnyb said:

i r so confused... :-??

Is this thread about the new mobile format or about some person on public assistance being accused of MUD? What is going on???

This really confused me too!! I just clicked on the link to catch up on the post about the Mobile version and I couldn't figure out why it was a post on some drama..

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