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August 2012 Moms
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Paula Dean
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Have we talked about her? The FN fired her for being racist and saying the N word. I totally think she deserves it. I didn't like her show anyway. I can't even imagine someone would be so dumb and bigoted publicly.
Then and now. How did my boy get so big?
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Re: Paula Dean
Yeah, but that's a very public job with a reputation. It's not like she's ringing people out at Target. She should be fired because she represents the network.
I have never liked her. Her recipes are nasty and the whole diabetesdrug fiasco was shady beyond belief. I am glad they fired her.
Right? How disgusting! And her brother is worse.
I agree. I used to watch her show years ago, but now she's over the top to the point of aggravating. I still use a lot of her recipes, though! Her Better than Sex cake is beyond amazing!
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Now If she were still using that word today that would be completely different. In that case she should definitely be fired.
And to maybe add some flame worthy content a black person I know said that if we want to get all upset about a white person saying that word then we need to react the same way when black people use it against each other. I agree. I don't like saying trailer trash or white trash or calling Hispanic and Chinese derogatory names either. We need to be respectful of our own race and others.
If this is the case, then no she shouldn't have been fired. Thats just stupid
Eah. I don't know. I never once was under the impression that an older white person from the deep south was scott-free of saying that word. I don't know the whole story about the wedding thing. I don't think she's atypical of other women the same age and from the same part of the world.
I have always liked her, but not been oblivious to the fact that she is a business woman and her show is just that - she's putting on a show.
If she hadn't been fired, Food Network would catch enough hell that the station would go up in flames. I think their hands were tied.
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SERIOUSLY.
"Oh, I used it once like 20 years ago"
Right. OK. Except every single person I know who "used" to say that still uses it when they think they're in "safe" company. I will eat my horn if she legitimately doesn't use that word anymore.
I can't believe people are trying to pull the "oh she's old and from the South" card. Good grief.
She's not that old. She could have involved herself in the civil rights movement.
Can I just say that when I was little my family used that word, and often. Therefore, I did too. I had no idea how wrong it was to use it, but if say a video surfaced of me using it as a child...say..20 years ago... And I lost my job because of it, I would be livid.
And for the record, just because it was once a part of my vocabulary doesn't mean that I still use it in "safe" places. My kids haven't ever heard that word and wouldn't enen think about using it.
Also, I was born in Texas and lived there until late elementary school. I do think regional norms have an influence. I'm not saying it is right, but that it DOES play a part.
ETA: not only regional norms, but also social class.
Well, I clearly shouldn't have been so all or nothing with what I said. I apologize.
I just know from personal experience that a lot of people, young and old, who say they used to use that word really mean "I used to use it all the time, but now I only use it behind closed doors." I shouldn't have tried to say that was a universal truth, but I have come across it so many times that it seems like a common occurrence.
Additionally, Paula has been accused of blatant racism many times. It's not that there was one instance 20 years ago that's getting her fired. She's SURROUNDED by this controversy, and as an extremely public figure it makes sense that she would be held accountable.
I guess part of the reason this bugs me so much is that I too am from the south, and I get tired of people always assuming this is still a racist, bigoted part of the country. I feel that the people defending her actions by saying things like "it was so long ago, etc" come across as apologists, and it reinforces the stereotype. I shouldn't get so hyper defensive, though. It's a trait I'm not proud of. I'm sorry that I made you feel like you had to defend yourself. You're right to point out the flaws in what I said. Hope we're still cool.
Don't laugh too hard, but my brain almost popped of my head when I saw a confederate flag on a creepy looking house in PA a year or so ago. I'm used to seeing them on jacked up F 350's and stuff down here, but I was flabbergasted to see it up north. My husband, who is originally from NJ, was like, "oh yeah, there are tons of racists here."
I know that's stupid of me, like, I KNOW racism isn't just a southern thing...but it was still crazy to see it up there.
PS: I have seriously heard it called "the war of northern aggression" down here. I almost rofl'ed into traffic.
I'm guessing you were somewhere near the middle of PA? The slang term for this area is Pennsyltucky (you know, PA and Ketucky melted together?). At least that's what city folk likes to call most of the rural areas outside of Philly and Pittsburgh.
I've met plenty of H's South Side Irish relatives to know it's not just a Southern thing.
My favorite is when people try to insist that confederate pride is all about "states rights" and "being proud of my ancestors"
Yep. States rights to OWN PEOPLE and your RACIST ANCESTORS. But ok, it means whatever nonsense you've convinced yourself that it means. Starz n' Barz 4eva!
Also, Rho, Pennsyltucky made me snort my coffee. I love it. And you're right about where we were. I love local nicknames.
Oh I get it, absolutely. I just wanted to point out that there are other sides of that business. And us? Not be cool? Yeah right.
As a child, even very young adult, you are a direct reflection of what your parents allowed you to be exposed to and associated with while growing up.
To me, that's a huge responsibility, as a parent. Our kids look to us as to how they should conduct themselves and how to know what is appropriate.
Let's just say, I apologize a lot and try harder the next day.
As far as Paula Deen, she's certifiably crazy, over exaggerated and totally inappropriate at times. But, I took a lot of good recipes from her wheelhouse. Just goes to show that what you say can and will be remembered forever.
Oh me....