Cows milk?

SingleMom31 · June 2013

I saw some baby food pouches that were various veggies mixed with greek yogurt. I thought that they weren't supposed to have any cows milk products until a year. Or, is it just that I can't replace BM with cow's milk before then?

nanabanana06 · June 2013

No cows milk as a drink or to replace BM/Formula until 1 year. Dairy products and cooked milk is fine.

sschwege · June 2013

Nana_Osaki06:
No cows milk as a drink or to replace BM/Formula until 1 year. Dairy products and cooked milk is fine.

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SingleMom31 · June 2013

Thanks ladies.

*LrCg* · June 2013

I disagree. My first 2 kids had cows milk at 10 months old. Look up breastfeeding expert Dr Jack Newman, he covers this. My kids were on table food and weaned from BM, I did not want to do formula. At their year check ups they had no issues the concern is over iron, but they made up for it in food. I know what the AAP says, but I don't follow anything they say.

rjeller32 · June 2013

*LrCg*:
I disagree. My first 2 kids had cows milk at 10 months old. Look up breastfeeding expert Dr Jack Newman, he covers this. My kids were on table food and weaned from BM, I did not want to do formula. At their year check ups they had no issues the concern is over iron, but they made up for it in food. I know what the AAP says, but I don't follow anything they say.

I am curious as to what the benefits of stopping BM at 10 months would be? I mean, WCM doesn't have the nutritional values BM or formula has, which is essential in at least the first year.

Reading some of his information on his site, I wouldn't take his advice on my life. He gives no reason why you can give a baby WCM as early as 6 months, he only states that you can (along with some other solids advice I really disagree with, like solids as early as 3 months), but that a baby can get their nutritional value quite easily through BM alone well into their first year of life. Which is the only part of that I agree with.

I will deny the kool-aid on that one.

nanabanana06 · June 2013

*LrCg*:
I disagree. My first 2 kids had cows milk at 10 months old. Look up breastfeeding expert Dr Jack Newman, he covers this. My kids were on table food and weaned from BM, I did not want to do formula. At their year check ups they had no issues the concern is over iron, but they made up for it in food. I know what the AAP says, but I don't follow anything they say.

Yeah, no. If BFing had worked out I would be following WHO recommendations of BFing till 2. Who in their right minds thinks a BABY shouldn't have BM or formula by 6-12 months? Thats borderline malnutrition. No thanks.

dee12807 · June 2013

Nana_Osaki06:
*LrCg*:
I disagree. My first 2 kids had cows milk at 10 months old. Look up breastfeeding expert Dr Jack Newman, he covers this. My kids were on table food and weaned from BM, I did not want to do formula. At their year check ups they had no issues the concern is over iron, but they made up for it in food. I know what the AAP says, but I don't follow anything they say.
Yeah, no. If BFing had worked out I would be following WHO recommendations of BFing till 2. Who in their right minds thinks a BABY shouldn't have BM or formula by 6-12 months? Thats borderline malnutrition. No thanks.

although I wouldn't take my kid off formula/BM before age 1, I don't think it would be borderline malnutrition IF (that is a biiiig if!) you can be sure LO is eating enough foods to fulfill his/her nutritional needs. I know someone who has 4 kids, 3 of which were eating all table food and off formula by 9-10 months. They were very healthy, but the mom worked as an child nutritional specialist before having kids, and made feeding her kids a full time job

*LrCg* · June 2013

Some asked why I stopped BF early, with my first I got pregnant again when DC1 was 8 months old. I had planned on tandem nursing but when pregnant my milk changed and he weaned himself by 10 months. With my 2nd she was just so active and with table food eating started weaning herself. I never did baby food and start table food at around 89 months old depending on the child so they were getting nutrients. Also the fact that they were both walking at 10 months old is another sign they were very healthy. At 10 months old I had no desire to put them on formula and upset their stomachs until I found the right one when I could just give them healthy food.

nanabanana06 · June 2013

Look. Only this whacko doctor even States is ok to wean before 1 year. Every single child nutritional expert says BF or formula for the first year. WHO days BF till 2. There's a reason for that. A 10 month old is a baby. Not a toddler that needs different nutritional needs. I don't care people's reasoning. It's wrong. Babies need that BM, need it. At 10 months they dont NEED table food and cites milk.

minervacullen · June 2013

peanutrach1:
Nana_Osaki06:
Look. Only this whacko doctor even States is ok to wean before 1 year. Every single child nutritional expert says BF or formula for the first year. WHO days BF till 2. There's a reason for that. A 10 month old is a baby. Not a toddler that needs different nutritional needs. I don't care people's reasoning. It's wrong. Babies need that BM, need it. At 10 months they dont NEED table food and cites milk.

Totally agree. If you can't BF for that long then go on formula to ensure he or she is receiving the nutrition he or she needs. I know consumption will decrease as the baby moves to eating more solids but should not be weaned completely until at least one.

Yup yup.
This is why I'm now starting a freezer stash, so dd can just have bm in her sippy later. Also DS had a horrible, horrible time with wcm, I'm going to wait as long as I can to introduce it. Maybe even not until 2.

kerribear1717 · June 2013

*LrCg*:
Some asked why I stopped BF early, with my first I got pregnant again when DC1 was 8 months old. I had planned on tandem nursing but when pregnant my milk changed and he weaned himself by 10 months. With my 2nd she was just so active and with table food eating started weaning herself. I never did baby food and start table food at around 89 months old depending on the child so they were getting nutrients. Also the fact that they were both walking at 10 months old is another sign they were very healthy. At 10 months old I had no desire to put them on formula and upset their stomachs until I found the right one when I could just give them healthy food.

I find this interesting because what I've read is that the reason to keep them off of WCM is because their digestive systems can't really process it properly (probably giving them upset stomachs). With my first kid I would switch formula all the time. I bought what was on sale. Nothing phased him or had him upset. If it was in the bottle he drank it. I really don't think many babies turn their noses up on what's in their bottle. Nor did he have any trouble getting used to WCM. I just gave it to him in the bottle and again, he sucked it right down.

That's fine it worked for you. But I'd also say most pediatricians would probably not recommend it.

And if both your kids were walking by 10 months old, do you have a Dec 2012 baby? Just curious.

*LrCg* · June 2013

kerribear1717:
*LrCg*:
Some asked why I stopped BF early, with my first I got pregnant again when DC1 was 8 months old. I had planned on tandem nursing but when pregnant my milk changed and he weaned himself by 10 months. With my 2nd she was just so active and with table food eating started weaning herself. I never did baby food and start table food at around 89 months old depending on the child so they were getting nutrients. Also the fact that they were both walking at 10 months old is another sign they were very healthy. At 10 months old I had no desire to put them on formula and upset their stomachs until I found the right one when I could just give them healthy food.
 I find this interesting because what I've read is that the reason to keep them off of WCM is because their digestive systems can't really process it properly (probably giving them upset stomachs).  With my first kid I would switch formula all the time.  I bought what was on sale.  Nothing phased him or had him upset.  If it was in the bottle he drank it.  I really don't think many babies turn their noses up on what's in their bottle.  Nor did he have any trouble getting used to WCM.  I just gave it to him in the bottle and again, he sucked it right down.
That's fine it worked for you.  But I'd also say most pediatricians would probably not recommend it.
And if both your kids were walking by 10 months old, do you have a Dec 2012 baby?  Just curious.

I have 3 kids, my 3rd was born in Dec 2012. My doctor had no issues with cows milk prior to one year, not that he makes the decisions on my kids, but I did provide him info from Dr Jack Newman who is supported by the Le Lech League who are the go to people on breastfeeding. Cows milk can make kids anemic which is why a healthy diet is very important and like I said my kids were on table food, never had baby food.

nanabanana06 · June 2013

*LrCg*:
kerribear1717:
*LrCg*:
Some asked why I stopped BF early, with my first I got pregnant again when DC1 was 8 months old. I had planned on tandem nursing but when pregnant my milk changed and he weaned himself by 10 months. With my 2nd she was just so active and with table food eating started weaning herself. I never did baby food and start table food at around 89 months old depending on the child so they were getting nutrients. Also the fact that they were both walking at 10 months old is another sign they were very healthy. At 10 months old I had no desire to put them on formula and upset their stomachs until I found the right one when I could just give them healthy food.
I find this interesting because what I've read is that the reason to keep them off of WCM is because their digestive systems can't really process it properly (probably giving them upset stomachs). With my first kid I would switch formula all the time. I bought what was on sale. Nothing phased him or had him upset. If it was in the bottle he drank it. I really don't think many babies turn their noses up on what's in their bottle. Nor did he have any trouble getting used to WCM. I just gave it to him in the bottle and again, he sucked it right down.
That's fine it worked for you. But I'd also say most pediatricians would probably not recommend it.
And if both your kids were walking by 10 months old, do you have a Dec 2012 baby? Just curious.
I have 3 kids, my 3rd was born in Dec 2012. My doctor had no issues with cows milk prior to one year, not that he makes the decisions on my kids, but I did provide him info from Dr Jack Newman who is supported by the Le Lech League who are the go to people on breastfeeding. Cows milk can make kids anemic which is why a healthy diet is very important and like I said my kids were on table food, never had baby food.

But the Le Leche League even states BM till 2 years. I read their book.

StefandTodd · June 2013

It doesn't make sense to me to avoid giving formula because you'd have to find one that "doesn't upset their tummy" but give cows milk?! Why would formula that is made to provide 100% nutrition to tiny babies in the absence of available breastmilk be "lesser than" cow's milk?! I also got pregnant when my first was very young, and had to supplement. He had breastmilk only until 6 months, breastmilk and solid food (he eats/ate what we eat, no purees) until 9 months, formula, breastmilk, & solids from 9-12 months, cow's milk, breast milk, & solids from 12-22+ (he's 22 months now and still nursing). I would not give cows milk before a year. No way, no how.

However, IN something...yogurt, baked goods, etc - totally okay.

BananaPancake · June 2013

Eh, I don't know...a couple of my kids went to cow's milk in sippies around 10m combined with light nursing and table food and one of them has always refused milk altogether. They all have a healthy, varied diet and are fantastic eaters. My boys are one formula now and I can't WAIT to switch them to goat's milk around 10/11m. Flame away...raising kids is a family-by-family thing and our pediatrician thinks they're doing fine. No biggie.

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