Stood up /Stood Out for AP!

Re: Stood up /Stood Out for AP!

• Temp123197812503460

  June 2013

  way to go! i remember being frustrated/upset after attending one of the panels and only hearing about people scheduling/formula feeding/etc.  Luckily we just ignored it and went with what we wanted to do (baby led for the first year, EBF, etc) and it worked out. 

  There are of course compromises you need to make when you have two babies, but I hate the sentiment in the multiples community that the only thing you can do is put them on a schedule.
  

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• Temp123197812503460

  June 2013

  though we did move them to their room after just a month or two because I did find it hard to sleep with all the grunting we did some room/bed sharing in a fluid manner when it was needed, but also did some sleeping in their own space.  like you said, its all about finding what works
  

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• boogerbearoriginal member

  June 2013

  I know it's not recommended but we love propping bottles, you just have to make sure you're never too far away when using the prop

   Ok, whether or not you schedule baby or cosleep or whatever, bottle propping isn't just "not recommended" it's really unsafe and I am kind of appalled that people are promoting that.

  I can't imagine how hard it would be to deal with two newborns at once, heck I was overwhelmed with one many times! But there's no need to do something unsafe either.

  Kudos to you to doing what you believe is best for your family, and not being ashamed of your choices. 
  

  
  
  

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• Temp123197812503460

  June 2013

  Booger+Bear:

  I know it's not recommended but we love propping bottles, you just have to make sure you're never too far away when using the prop

   Ok, whether or not you schedule baby or cosleep or whatever, bottle propping isn't just "not recommended" it's really unsafe and I am kind of appalled that people are promoting that.

  I can't imagine how hard it would be to deal with two newborns at once, heck I was overwhelmed with one many times! But there's no need to do something unsafe either.

  Kudos to you to doing what you believe is best for your family, and not being ashamed of your choices. 
  

  eh, i wouldnt judge, it may be people doing it with somewhat older babies, it was never something we did (i nursed exclusively) but like you said, you have no idea what its like to deal with two babies at once and we all have to make choices. as long as you are paying attention to the babies its not that it cant be done safely.
  

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• abbieaggie

  June 2013

  I just posted the below in another thread, but think it applies here as well.  However, I must admit I have propped a bottle a couple times with baby #3 because my other two kids are demanding and don't understand wait until I'm done feeding baby.  Even when I EBF for the first few months (I have EP & supplemented for him since going back to work)...
  

  XP: Late to this thread, but I have to cheer for AP (and vent at the same time).  A good friend of mine who has 5 kids has repeatedly told me how important schedules are for raising kids.  This was before I had any and I was raised in a mostly AP household, although we didn't call it that... it certainly was.  After having my own kids, I thought that is her deal and I understand but how ironic she is a SAHM and I work full time and she is rigid with everything and I am laid back with the kids behavior/needs, and just went with the flow even though I had less time at home with the kids. 

  She is suppose to be more organized and together with all her scheduling, well it seems she is stressed out all the time, worried about when they eat, sleep, walk, talk, potty train, learn their ABC's, learn to ride a bike, etc.  No exaggeration here, she literally told me I need to potty train my son by the time he is 2 because he is big for his age and people will think something is wrong with him.  WTF? I finally responded to one of her "digs" that I don't think in 20 years or so when they are applying for jobs that one of the questions will be how old were you when you potty trained, learned your ABC's or first time you rode a bike.  Ugh! Keep Calm and AP on.  haha

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• boogerbearoriginal member

  June 2013

  somewhereincali:

  Booger+Bear:

  I know it's not recommended but we love propping bottles, you just have to make sure you're never too far away when using the prop

   Ok, whether or not you schedule baby or cosleep or whatever, bottle propping isn't just "not recommended" it's really unsafe and I am kind of appalled that people are promoting that.

  I can't imagine how hard it would be to deal with two newborns at once, heck I was overwhelmed with one many times! But there's no need to do something unsafe either.

  Kudos to you to doing what you believe is best for your family, and not being ashamed of your choices. 
  

  eh, i wouldnt judge, it may be people doing it with somewhat older babies, it was never something we did (i nursed exclusively) but like you said, you have no idea what its like to deal with two babies at once and we all have to make choices. as long as you are paying attention to the babies its not that it cant be done safely.
  

  Well, my comment had nothing to do with judging the parents but it was judging these "experts" promoting it as a useful technique for feeding baby.

  If you google risks of bottle propping you'll see it's linked to increased risk of ear infections, tooth decay and death by aspiration.  Granted, those are typically when they do it in a crib but beyond the risks of being unattended, babies are not meant to be left in a crib/seat with a bottle stuck in their face, but fed in the arms of a loving caregiver.  And it's easy to say only do it if you're "right there" but then in practice the parent walks away to pee/answer the door/stir dinner. Or an exhausted mom of twins props the bottles and sits for a minute, dozes off and baby aspirates.
  

  A parent could chose to lay baby to sleep on their stomach, but I certainly wouldn't expect that be recommend to all parents blanket-form as "ok as long as you're right there".
  

  Simply put, I don't agree with parenting experts recommending it to new/expectant parents. Has nothing to do with judging what a parent chooses to do.
  

  
  
  

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• Temp123197812503460

  June 2013

  Booger+Bear:

  somewhereincali:

  Booger+Bear:

  I know it's not recommended but we love propping bottles, you just have
  to make sure you're never too far away when using the prop

   Ok, whether or not you schedule baby or cosleep or whatever, bottle propping isn't just "not recommended" it's really unsafe and I am kind of appalled that people are promoting that.

  I can't imagine how hard it would be to deal with two newborns at once, heck I was overwhelmed with one many times! But there's no need to do something unsafe either.

  Kudos to you to doing what you believe is best for your family, and not being ashamed of your choices. 
  

  
  
  eh, i wouldnt judge, it may be people doing it with somewhat older babies, it was never something we did (i nursed exclusively) but like you said, you have no idea what its like to deal with two babies at once and we all have to make choices. as long as you are paying attention to the babies its not that it cant be done safely.
  

  
  
  

  Well, my comment had nothing to do with judging the parents but it was judging these "experts" promoting it as a useful technique for feeding baby.

  If you google risks of bottle propping you'll see it's linked to increased risk of ear infections, tooth decay and death by aspiration.  Granted, those are typically when they do it in a crib but beyond the risks of being unattended, babies are not meant to be left in a crib/seat with a bottle stuck in their face, but fed in the arms of a loving caregiver.  And it's easy to say only do it if you're "right there" but then in practice the parent walks away to pee/answer the door/stir dinner. Or an exhausted mom of twins props the bottles and sits for a minute, dozes off and baby aspirates.
  

  A parent could chose to lay baby to sleep on their stomach, but I certainly wouldn't expect that be recommend to all parents blanket-form as "ok as long as you're right there".
  

  Simply put, I don't agree with parenting experts recommending it to new/expectant parents. Has nothing to do with judging what a parent chooses to do.
  

  
  I don't think she said they were experts, typically these panels are just parents who have twins that are somewhere in the range of 2mo9mo sharing their experiences with people expecting twins. It's not expert advice, it's more like here is what we did/do

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• Temp123197812503460

  June 2013

  Booger+Bear:

  somewhereincali:

  Booger+Bear:

  I know it's not recommended but we love propping bottles, you just have
  to make sure you're never too far away when using the prop

   Ok, whether or not you schedule baby or cosleep or whatever, bottle propping isn't just "not recommended" it's really unsafe and I am kind of appalled that people are promoting that.

  I can't imagine how hard it would be to deal with two newborns at once, heck I was overwhelmed with one many times! But there's no need to do something unsafe either.

  Kudos to you to doing what you believe is best for your family, and not being ashamed of your choices. 
  

  
  
  eh, i wouldnt judge, it may be people doing it with somewhat older babies, it was never something we did (i nursed exclusively) but like you said, you have no idea what its like to deal with two babies at once and we all have to make choices. as long as you are paying attention to the babies its not that it cant be done safely.
  

  
  
  

  Well, my comment had nothing to do with judging the parents but it was judging these "experts" promoting it as a useful technique for feeding baby.

  If you google risks of bottle propping you'll see it's linked to increased risk of ear infections, tooth decay and death by aspiration.  Granted, those are typically when they do it in a crib but beyond the risks of being unattended, babies are not meant to be left in a crib/seat with a bottle stuck in their face, but fed in the arms of a loving caregiver.  And it's easy to say only do it if you're "right there" but then in practice the parent walks away to pee/answer the door/stir dinner. Or an exhausted mom of twins props the bottles and sits for a minute, dozes off and baby aspirates.
  

  A parent could chose to lay baby to sleep on their stomach, but I certainly wouldn't expect that be recommend to all parents blanket-form as "ok as long as you're right there".
  

  Simply put, I don't agree with parenting experts recommending it to new/expectant parents. Has nothing to do with judging what a parent chooses to do.
  

  
  And "fed in the arms of a loving caregiver" have you ever tried to hold and feed two babies at the same time? It worked because I nursed but that was only possible because I had a lot of support/was insanely stubborn, nursing twins is hard.
  Bottle feeding two babies at once means either feeding one in your arms while the other screams bloody murder or somehow rigging them in two boppies/chairs/etc and getting bottles into their mouths, until you need to burp one and then what?? It's not like parents of multiples don't want to give the same attention to their babies that singleton parents do, it's just sometimes not possible.
  Trust me when I say that you have no idea what it's like to have two or more! newborns until you have done it.

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• Temp123197812503460

  June 2013

  (OP, sorry for gettign off topic, like I said I think its awesome that you were sharing another option, I think people should be much more open about saying you can do things different ways with multiples, it wont be the same as with just one baby but there are lots of options).
  

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