I have a really strange question to pose to those of you who have been on the TPR path for a while.
Taking money and the hassle of cycling out of the equation (because we all know it's easier and cheaper to have a baby spontaneously)...
How would you feel if you spontaneously conceived a baby at this point? Would there be any mixed feelings?
I recognized something about myself earlier this year. I had to grieve and completely emotionally bury the notion of a genetic child in order to really embrace the idea of having a child born of donor genes. And I can say that after going through that extensive grieving process, the only child(ren) I can picture in our future are comprised NOT of our genes. And not only am I okay with that idea, I cherish it.
It's to the point where if we were to spontaneously conceive a genetic child, I would feel almost blindsided and strange because that child I was forced to bury would be "coming back from the dead". That's sincerely the only way I know how to describe it. It's a strange feeling to think about a child you buried coming back to you. It makes me a bit uneasy. And it's probably a good thing because with our IF diagnosis, it just ain't gonna happen anyway ;-)
Am I alone in feeling this? I would obviously love and accept any child who is born to me - genetic or not. However it's been a strange realization to me that I feel like having a donor-conceived child is preferred at this point since that genetic child is dead.
Let me also add by saying I did NOT feel this way in the beginning. It is a feeling that has emerged in the past six months or so. I'd imagine that those new to TPR might think I'm just crazy.
I'm curious for your thoughts!
Re: Bringing back the genetic child you had to bury
While I haven't been at TPR a long time I understand what you mean. While a surprise PG would be a miracle and a blessing I can't help but wonder if I'd feel cheated somehow. Like I put years of effort into a bio child and once I let that dream go and allowed my hopes for the future to change then I'd have to let go of the new dream too.
Sometimes I find myself thinking of how I wouldn't have to worry about a donor embryo child inheriting certain qualities from mine or DH's families and am relived! lol Sure they'll have their own flaws but at least they won't be compared to other family members and will be able to be their own person.
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IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN
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Nope not crazy. BUT. I knew since I was 17yrs. old that a genetic child would be impossible. So like you I have had plenty of time to move past and "bury" that child. So I agree that I would have mixed emotions if something like that happened! I know it's medically impossible, but I have thought of the "What if's..." and have come to terms with having to use DE, and it feels normal to me.
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September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...
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Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
DH: Severe MFI
12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN
8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)
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2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts.
2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.
6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d.
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I mourned the loss terribly. There was a real sense of grief. I couldn't stand to look at any of our pregnant friends, knowing that they could just have children. That they didn't have to even think about it. They could just decide, "Hey! Lets have another." and it would happen for them. I was angrier than I had ever been. I was mad at myself and mad at my husband. I wondered why we had found one another, these two imperfect beings.
We got through it and conceived our second son with donor sperm. To the person who was wondering if the love is the same. It is, at least for me. We do everything in our power to prevent another pregnency. The idea of getting pregnant with a child who will be sick and suffer, eventually dying before his or her time is sobering. I would not want to be pregnant with our biological child. I have given up on that and moved on.
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Liz, thanks for asking this question. I read your question to MH and we briefly discussed, finding that both of us are on the same page.
I feel tremendously lucky. I'm sitting here responding to your post while MH is snuggling with our two week old baby. DE brought her to us after a great deal of struggle, loss and grief. She's our world now. Do I still mourn a genetic connection? Yes and I think there will always be some of that. But now, my focus is on our daughter. When we discussed a universe where having a genetic child would be not only possible, but probable, our main concern was not wanting to do anything that could hurt our little girl. I'm not sure this is a rational concern but it's one that we both have.
To respond to your question from a different perspective, spontaneously conceiving would scare the dickens out of us. We fully understand that we are tremendously high risk for m/c and trisomies. This is why we moved on from my OE to DE.
It's been over a year since we came to grips with needing to use DE. And now we feel like we have it all. DE is in the past and it's not relevant now. When I dream of the possibility of expanding our family, it doesn't involve genetics. It does, however, involve the frosties we have from our DE cycle.
Baby boy Henry born 2015.
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Your response was really beautiful.
I hope I am lucky enough to feel this way a year from now.
Congrats on your baby girl!!
Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI (TTC#1 since 2009)
IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN
Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p
DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN
DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN
DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN
FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p
DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.
FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN
Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus
New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells
FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October