October 2013 Moms

you know what drives me nuts?

(i may have complained about this before lol)

but i can NOT STAND when i see newborns drinking FULL 8oz+ bottles of formula.  newborns!! they only need 1-2 oz MAX when they are that young.  and people wonder why we have an ongoing childhood obesity problem.  uhh it starts there    

i will say that most formula fed babies i have seen are MUCH larger than ebf'd-- and that is no coincidence.   For instance, i knew a 30 lb formula fed twelve month old.  My son is 4 and 32 lbs.   do the math!

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: you know what drives me nuts?

  • I totally disagree about the formula fed babies being bigger than ebf'ed babies. I know PLENTY of ebf'ed babies that are HUGE--bigger than those that had formula. I think genetics might have something to do with that.

    Also, yes, most newborns need 1-2 oz. But some need a tiny bit more. DD was 9 lbs.  So yea, 1 oz of anything wasn't going to cut it for her for very long. I was NOT giving her 8 oz, but I was not going to starve my kid either.

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  • imageCousinVicki:

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    i will say that most formula fed babies i have seen are MUCH larger than ebf'd-- and that is no coincidence.   For instance, i knew a 30 lb formula fed twelve month old.  My son is 4 and 32 lbs.   do the math!

    My son is 19 months and 29 lbs.  He was breastfed until he was a year old.  This may have a little bit more to do with genetics.  

     

     

     

     

     

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  • imageMrsMommyQ:

    I totally disagree about the formula fed babies being bigger than ebf'ed babies. I know PLENTY of ebf'ed babies that are HUGE--bigger than those that had formula. I think genetics might have something to do with that.

    Also, yes, most newborns need 1-2 oz. But some need a tiny bit more. DD was 9 lbs.  So yea, 1 oz of anything wasn't going to cut it for her for very long. I was NOT giving her 8 oz, but I was not going to starve my kid either.

     

    actually on the whole ebf'd babies are on a lower weight percentage / slower to gain than formula fed: https://kellymom.com/health/growth/growthcharts/

     

     


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  • well genetics yes, fine fine.   but i am telling you, formula feeders pushing 8-10 oz into a newborn? how can they NOT gain too much?

     

     


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  • imageCousinVicki:
    i may have complained about this before lolbut i can NOT STAND when i see newborns drinking FULL 8oz bottles of formula. nbsp;newborns!! they only need 12 oz MAX when they are that young. nbsp;and people wonder why we have an ongoing childhood obesity problem. nbsp;uhh it starts there nbsp; nbsp;i will say that most formula fed babies i have seen are MUCH larger than ebf'd and that is no coincidence. nbsp; For instance, i knew a 30 lb formula fed twelve month old. nbsp;My son is 4 and 32 lbs. nbsp; do the math!nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;

    You must live a really stressful life that so many things seem to bother you so tremendously about how other people raise their children.

    The math shows that your son is in the 25th percentile for weight for 4 year olds. That isn't a bad thing. But my 15 month old is in the 99th percentile in height and 50th percentile in weight and is very healthy...

    I breast fed until last month. Based on weighted feelings, my daughter could easily get 7 to 9 ounces of milk at her first nursing of the day. When she was a tiny baby, she was nursing and getting 5 to 6 ounces at a time.

     If I had limited her to only what the breastfeeding board recommends, 2 to 3 ounces, she would have starved, as even eating 32 ounces a day didn't fatten her up.

    Babies are all little individuals and there is no one solution fits all, Maybe you should mind ya own beeswax!

  • I have never heard of anyone feeding that much formula to a newborn. Where did u see that? I can see mixing the bottle ahead and saving what is left for later in the fridge. I don't see how 8oz would be physically possible for a newborn anyway. Also my son was formula fed and is skinny and tall.
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  • imagebkeane619:
    I have never heard of anyone feeding that much formula to a newborn. Where did u see that? I can see mixing the bottle ahead and saving what is left for later in the fridge. I don't see how 8oz would be physically possible for a newborn anyway. Also my son was formula fed and is skinny and tall.

     

    i have seen it multiple times out and about and just the other day at my son's graduation thingie.   they kept that bottle in for an HOUR until it was gone.  


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  • imageCousinVicki:

    actually on the whole ebf'd babies are on a lower weight percentage / slower to gain than formula fed: https://kellymom.com/health/growth/growthcharts/

     

    Not entirely true. 

     From KellyMom:  "Healthy breastfed infants tend to grow more rapidly than their formula-fed peers in the first 2-3 months of life and less rapidly from 3 to 12 months."

    Until about 4-6 months, most EBF babies are much chunkier than their FF counterparts.  Then, the EBF babies usually slim out and eventually start going down in percentages...

     

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    imagebkeane619:
    I have never heard of anyone feeding that much formula to a newborn. Where did u see that? I can see mixing the bottle ahead and saving what is left for later in the fridge. I don't see how 8oz would be physically possible for a newborn anyway. Also my son was formula fed and is skinny and tall.

     

    i have seen it multiple times out and about and just the other day at my son's graduation thingie.   they kept that bottle in for an HOUR until it was gone.  

    ok the graduation baby is crazy but out and about...they could just be mixing a big bottle and saving the rest for later. That's what I always did.
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  • imagesooner1981:
    Until about 4-6 months, most EBF babies are much chunkier than their FF counterparts.  Then, the EBF babies usually slim out and eventually start going down in percentages...

    This was DD.  She was higher on the charts until 6 months when she started going lower and lower.  At 18 months, she was 75th percentile of height, and 50 for weight.  She has not gained much since then, but I know she's grown.  So it will interesting to see her stats at her 2 year check up on Wednesday. Oh and DD was bf'd (never even an ounce of formula) for 13.5 months (starting solids around 5.5 or 6 months).

    I don't think a blanket statement like CV's OP is fair/accurate.  I think it could be said that giving your NB 8 oz is an example of what may be causing obesity. I suppose at least.

    Also. DD generally only drank 20ish ounces of milk every day for the majority of her first year.  I knew other BF babies that drank way more.  We just fed her until she was done.  My point is that I don't think you can really compare bm ounces as every woman's bm will be different.  i think maybe I just had really thick bm.  I even had people comment on it when they saw it in her bottles. lol

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    imagesooner1981:
    Until about 4-6 months, most EBF babies are much chunkier than their FF counterparts.  Then, the EBF babies usually slim out and eventually start going down in percentages...

    This was DD.  She was higher on the charts until 6 months when she started going lower and lower.  At 18 months, she was 75th percentile of height, and 50 for weight.  She has not gained much since then, but I know she's grown.  So it will interesting to see her stats at her 2 year check up on Wednesday. Oh and DD was bf'd (never even an ounce of formula) for 13.5 months (starting solids around 5.5 or 6 months).

    I don't think a blanket statement like CV's OP is fair/accurate.  I think it could be said that giving your NB 8 oz is an example of what may be causing obesity. I suppose at least.

    Also. DD generally only drank 20ish ounces of milk every day for the majority of her first year.  I knew other BF babies that drank way more.  We just fed her until she was done.  My point is that I don't think you can really compare bm ounces as every woman's bm will be different.  i think maybe I just had really thick bm.  I even had people comment on it when they saw it in her bottles. lol



    This was exactly what I was trying to say. As I said above, our daughter was also exclusively BF and routinely downed 32 or more ounces of BM during the first 6 to 8 months. Now, she is a very, very tall lanky 15 month old.
  • DD is 2 and weighs 30 pounds. She was EBF until she was 1 and was always a huge chunk. I personally love chunky babies and think they are adorbs. I think that young it has to do with genes. DD was also very short until recently she is average height, so that has effect on all her rolls! I think obesity in.children can stem from habitual over feeding over the years and feeding crap. To say giving a newborn too much formula is the reason, I don't necessarily agree. However I do see your point, if they start over feeding that young they are just asking for a problem in the future.
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    You know what drives ME nuts?  Moms who judge what other parents are or are not feeding their kids when they have no knowledge of the situation surrounding the family.

    Get off your high horse and stop worrying about what other moms are doing - take care of your own and let the rest of us be.  Unless you see someone endangering the life of their child - and 8 ounces of formula or BM (since you can't possibly know what it was unless you saw them mix the bottle) isn't considered endagerment - mind your business.

    My FF daughter started drinking 8 ounces of formula (GASP!) when she was 8 weeks old.  My peditrician was good with it, why is it such a big deal to you?  She wasn't gaining enough weight and I was not about to put her on a "diet" just to avoid judgement from idiots who spout out ignorance about the way I should feed my daughter.

    STFU...

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  • imageMrMrsandBaby:

    **sorry for lurking but I have a friend here that I check in on from time to time** 

    You know what drives ME nuts?  Moms who judge what other parents are or are not feeding their kids when they have no knowledge of the situation surrounding the family.

    Get off your high horse and stop worrying about what other moms are doing - take care of your own and let the rest of us be.  Unless you see someone endangering the life of their child - and 8 ounces of formula or BM (since you can't possibly know what it was unless you saw them mix the bottle) isn't considered endagerment - mind your business.

    My FF daughter started drinking 8 ounces of formula (GASP!) when she was 8 weeks old.  My peditrician was good with it, why is it such a big deal to you?  She wasn't gaining enough weight and I was not about to put her on a "diet" just to avoid judgement from idiots who spout out ignorance about the way I should feed my daughter.

    STFU...

     

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    Breathing. 

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  • imagesleepy33:

    You know what drives me nuts?

    Breathing. 

     

    Like the fact that you have to breathe to survive or other people breathing?

  • imageMrMrsandBaby:


    My FF daughter started drinking 8 ounces of formula (GASP!) when she was 8 weeks old.  

    STFU...

     

    a future honey boo boo in the works! 


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  • imagetaylormarie923:
    imagesleepy33:

    You know what drives me nuts?

    Breathing. 

     

    Like the fact that you have to breathe to survive or other people breathing?

    Yes. Totally. All of it. Just drives me nuts. Respiration in general.

    Really, though, I'm just giving CV a hard time. Smile

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  • imagesleepy33:

    Yes. Totally. All of it. Just drives me nuts. Respiration in general.

    Really, though, I'm just giving CV a hard time. Smile

    I know, the visual reminded me of that person who mouth breathes over your shoulder when you need something explained at work.  You know who I am talking about.

     

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    Blinking grinds my gears

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  • imagetaylormarie923:
    imagesleepy33:

    Yes. Totally. All of it. Just drives me nuts. Respiration in general.

    Really, though, I'm just giving CV a hard time. Smile

    I know, the visual reminded me of that person who mouth breathes over your shoulder when you need something explained at work.  You know who I am talking about.

     

    imageNRyan55:

    Blinking grinds my gears

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    Yes. Luckily now I don't have that (we only have 3 employees) BUT I do have a close stander. I always back up about 3 feet whenever he comesandstandsrealclose.

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  • imagesleepy33:

    Yes. Luckily now I don't have that (we only have 3 employees) BUT I do have a close stander. I always back up about 3 feet whenever he comesandstandsrealclose.

     

    And doesn't it always happen that the close stander is the one person with horrible breath?

  • imagetaylormarie923:
    imagesleepy33:

    Yes. Luckily now I don't have that (we only have 3 employees) BUT I do have a close stander. I always back up about 3 feet whenever he comesandstandsrealclose.

     

    And doesn't it always happen that the close stander is the one person with horrible breath?

    Luckily, he's way taller than me, so I am not in breath range, but I imagine it's terrible.

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  • imageCousinVicki:
    imageMrMrsandBaby:


    My FF daughter started drinking 8 ounces of formula (GASP!) when she was 8 weeks old.  

    STFU...

     

    a future honey boo boo in the works! 

    Did they not teach capitalization in your elementary school?

     

    I am assuming you don't have a child yet, because if you did, I think you would be a helllll of a lot less judgmental. I sure hope your child never has to have the dreaded formula. We would hate for you to have a fatty.



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    imageMrMrsandBaby:


    My FF daughter started drinking 8 ounces of formula (GASP!) when she was 8 weeks old.  

    STFU...

     

    a future honey boo boo in the works! 

    Did they not teach capitalization in your elementary school?

     

    I am assuming you don't have a child yet, because if you did, I think you would be a helllll of a lot less judgmental. I sure hope your child never has to have the dreaded formula. We would hate for you to have a fatty.

    She's got a kid. CV is an acquired taste, hang around awhile and you'll understand. Smile

    PS- what up, Nov 13!

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  • imagesleepy33:

    PS- what up, Nov 13!

     

    Or Dec 13.  Stick out tongue

  • imagetaylormarie923:
    imagesleepy33:

    PS- what up, Nov 13!

     

    Or Dec 13.  Stick out tongue

    Oh, whoops! Been lurking too many other boards. Sorry, Emma!

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  • imagesleepy33:
    imageEmmaBoBemma:
    imageCousinVicki:
    imageMrMrsandBaby:


    My FF daughter started drinking 8 ounces of formula (GASP!) when she was 8 weeks old.  

    STFU...

     

    a future honey boo boo in the works! 

    Did they not teach capitalization in your elementary school?

     

    I am assuming you don't have a child yet, because if you did, I think you would be a helllll of a lot less judgmental. I sure hope your child never has to have the dreaded formula. We would hate for you to have a fatty.

    She's got a kid. CV is an acquired taste, hang around awhile and you'll understand. Smile

    PS- what up, Nov 13!

    More like Feb 12.

     



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    BFP #2 December 17, 2012 MMC January 24, 2013
    BFP #3 April 7, 2013 Baby girl born December 11, 2013!!
    Amelia has Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome. She has had 3 open heart surgeries, 1 g-tube surgery, and one tracheostomy. She is the strongest, most precious little fighter. 
    You can follow her at. Www.ameliafaithsheart.blogspot.com
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    I see this all the time. parents bring their newborns/infants in for vomiting after every feed; turns out they are giving them 6 to 8oz bottles every 3 hrs!!! Of course they are gonna throw it up!!
  • imagetpeale:
    I see this all the time. parents bring their newborns/infants in for vomiting after every feed; turns out they are giving them 6 to 8oz bottles every 3 hrs!!! Of course they are gonna throw it up!!

    My nephew was 6 weeks early, by the time he was a month old, he wasn't gaining any weight. His pedi told my SIL to up the formula to 6 oz. Guess who started gaining the weight he was supposed to? One size does not fit all with infants.  



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    BFP #2 December 17, 2012 MMC January 24, 2013
    BFP #3 April 7, 2013 Baby girl born December 11, 2013!!
    Amelia has Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome. She has had 3 open heart surgeries, 1 g-tube surgery, and one tracheostomy. She is the strongest, most precious little fighter. 
    You can follow her at. Www.ameliafaithsheart.blogspot.com
  • imageEmmaBoBemma:
    imagesleepy33:
    imageEmmaBoBemma:
    imageCousinVicki:
    imageMrMrsandBaby:


    My FF daughter started drinking 8 ounces of formula (GASP!) when she was 8 weeks old.  

    STFU...

     

    a future honey boo boo in the works! 

    Did they not teach capitalization in your elementary school?

     

    I am assuming you don't have a child yet, because if you did, I think you would be a helllll of a lot less judgmental. I sure hope your child never has to have the dreaded formula. We would hate for you to have a fatty.

    She's got a kid. CV is an acquired taste, hang around awhile and you'll understand. Smile

    PS- what up, Nov 13!

    More like Feb 12.

    Represent!

    Lilypie - (JrNi)

    Lilypie - (y35Q)

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