October 2013 Moms

s/o Tipping...clicky poll

How much do you tip on average for average/descent service at an average table service restaurant.

Basically:  I'm not talking about how much you tip at Starbucks or Sonic, or at a fancy place where the service is generally beyond exception so the tip tends to go up anyway.  Just regular casual, non-counter service, restaurants.

Europeans probably shouldn't answer since I know tipping is different there. lol

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  • Standard 20 but I don't think that people who don't necessarily can't afford it.
  • imageanamouse:
    Oops. I hit 10 instead of 15-20. I'm originally from Canada and we generally tip 10-15% there because servers get a good minimum wage not crap like in the US.

    I wouldn't say a GOOD minimum wage.  Better than the US yes, but by no means GOOD.

    I'm a 20-25% as long as you didn't sh!t the bed.  A decade of serving will do that to a girl. 

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  • imagecarriet2018:
    Kimbo I cannot tell at all what your bias is on this poll Wink

    Bahahahaha.  I think all former restaurant service people have a strong bias on this topic.

    I'll never forget when Oprah, on national TV, told everyone to tip less to save money in a down economy.  It was cringe worthy.  I was a server at the time I'm pretty sure.  A lot of servers started some FB page against her because of it. lol

  • And yes.  I'm so cringing that we even have one 10% or less vote.  Like seriously.  Don't go out to eat if you can't/won't tip more. 

    but yay for all the 20% voters!

    ETA: so glad the 10% vote was a mistake!

  • imageWino0920:
    Standard 20 but I don't think that people who don't necessarily can't afford it.

    I agree.  I think most either don't "know" what is a good tip or they're just cheap. lol

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    imageWino0920:
    Standard 20 but I don't think that people who don't necessarily can't afford it.

    I agree.  I think most either don't "know" what is a good tip or they're just cheap. lol



    Exactly!
  • Usually I do a little over 20 percent if its good service. Just cuz I know the job is crap and I wouldn't want to do it personally.
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  • I always tip 20% unless the service was horrible or outstanding. For outstanding service, I've been known to tip 30%. NYE we went out to dinner and had the most amazing meal and most incredible server. Our bill was not cheap and we tipped him 35%. He deserved it. 
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  • As an addendum: does anyone tip when doing carryout? I do when I go to my local hole-in-the-wall Mexican restaurant, because their prices are so cheap and I know they pool all the tips.
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  • We're pretty consistent at 18% - depending on service.  Passable service gets you 15%, good service 18%, great service 20% or more.
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  • imageWino0920:
    Standard 20 but I don't think that people who don't necessarily can't afford it.


    This.  I picked SS for this reason.

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  • I tip 20% always.  Even if the service is bad.  I can't help it.  But, I generally don't actually do the math to the penny, so my 20% for good service usually ends up being more because I round up (and make my total an even dollar amount).

    As for take out, I am torn on this.  The restaurant that I worked at rotated servers for who was the to-go server that night.  They earned a higher hourly rate (maybe $5 instead of $2), but still lost money on the nights it was their turn to do to-go because no one ever thinks to tip them. 

    What I wonder is if fast food-type places (not McD's style, more like a sandwich shop style) get paid a higher hourly wage?  Living in California, food service workers are paid standard minimum wage and it wasn't until I moved to Texas that I realized standard wage is $2.14 which equals about a 5 cent check every two weeks.  So I never was worried about tipping those to go places where I order at a counter in CA because they received as much money as I did for my entry level desk job.  Anyone know how wages work in those type of food joints around the country?

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    imageanamouse:
    Oops. I hit 10 instead of 15-20. I'm originally from Canada and we generally tip 10-15% there because servers get a good minimum wage not crap like in the US.

    I wouldn't say a GOOD minimum wage.  Better than the US yes, but by no means GOOD.

    I'm a 20-25% as long as you didn't sh!t the bed.  A decade of serving will do that to a girl. 

    $8-10+ is better than $2-6 in some states where they use the tips as part of the minimum wage. 


    While I agree whole dollar comparison is higher for minimum wage here, cost of living needs to be taken into account. We have a relatively high cost of living in my city, so while minimum wage for servers [because they serve alcohol it is less than normal min. wage] is 9.10 an hour in my province, if you take the tips out, you're only making 20k a year which is PEANUTS to live on.
    ETA: For a point of reference here are the housing market trends for my city https://www.jimsparrow.com/marketstats.php
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    imagesleepy33:
    As an addendum: does anyone tip when doing carryout? I do when I go to my local hole-in-the-wall Mexican restaurant, because their prices are so cheap and I know they pool all the tips.

    I do. Usually just a buck or two, maybe more for more expensive food but we don't generally order super fancy takeout.



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  • I always go with 20% and then either deduct or add some depending on if the service was less than or better than good. I was never a server, but I have plenty of friends who were/are. DH thinks that 15% is 'the norm' and sometimes I have to discuss tipping with him, especially when I think the server deserves more. He's not cheap or stingy, I think he just doesn't know that 20% is 'average.' We don't go out often, but when we do, he usually asks me "is this enough for a tip?"  
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  • So I just learned - after googling, that CA and OR both pay minimum wage to their tipped employees, they are exempt from taking tip credits like most of the other states can.  I knew Oregon did from living there - and its not surprising to me that CA also does that.  Not that it necessarily changes what % you should tip.  Wish I would have worked in either of those states when I was a server!! 

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  • I voted double the tax.  But really it is double the tax (8%) and add a little which usually makes it hover around the 20% mark.

    On a related note: I really like it when restaurants put the little percentage scale at the bottom so it automatically calculates a 15%, 20%, 25% tax or whatever.  But probably because I am lazy but I think this gives people a better idea of what to tip since lets be honest people on average are not good with math.

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  • imageanamouse:
    imagelosersaidwhat:

    While I agree whole dollar comparison is higher for minimum wage here, cost of living needs to be taken into account. We have a relatively high cost of living in my city, so while minimum wage for servers [because they serve alcohol it is less than normal min. wage] is 9.10 an hour in my province, if you take the tips out, you're only making 20k a year which is PEANUTS to live on.
    ETA: For a point of reference here are the housing market trends for my city https://www.jimsparrow.com/marketstats.php

    Doesn't Calgary not have taxes because of the oil? 


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO TAXES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... I wish. We definitely have taxes. We're the only province without PST [Provincial Sales Tax] if that's what you're thinking of though so our GST is only 5 percent instead of like 14 for HST.
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    So I just learned - after googling, that CA and OR both pay minimum wage to their tipped employees, they are exempt from taking tip credits like most of the other states can.  I knew Oregon did from living there - and its not surprising to me that CA also does that.  Not that it necessarily changes what % you should tip.  Wish I would have worked in either of those states when I was a server!! 

     

    Oh wow, I didn't realize it was only those two.  I mentioned CA in my previous comment and I never knew servers made anything less than that until I moved! 

  • imagecarriet2018:
    Kimbo I cannot tell at all what your bias is on this poll Wink

    HA! Right.


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  • imagelosersaidwhat:
    imageanamouse:
    imagelosersaidwhat:

    While I agree whole dollar comparison is higher for minimum wage here, cost of living needs to be taken into account. We have a relatively high cost of living in my city, so while minimum wage for servers [because they serve alcohol it is less than normal min. wage] is 9.10 an hour in my province, if you take the tips out, you're only making 20k a year which is PEANUTS to live on.
    ETA: For a point of reference here are the housing market trends for my city https://www.jimsparrow.com/marketstats.php

    Doesn't Calgary not have taxes because of the oil? 


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO TAXES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... I wish. We definitely have taxes. We're the only province without PST [Provincial Sales Tax] if that's what you're thinking of though so our GST is only 5 percent instead of like 14 for HST.


    Loser, I love your reaction to this! I was gonna pipe in but I'm happy you did instead lol



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  • In Ontario, servers make $8.90/hour - not a lot but any means.  We normally tip whatever the tax is, here that's 13%.
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  • imagelosersaidwhat:
    While I agree whole dollar comparison is higher for minimum wage here, cost of living needs to be taken into account. We have a relatively high cost of living in my city, so while minimum wage for servers [because they serve alcohol it is less than normal min. wage] is 9.10 an hour in my province, if you take the tips out, you're only making 20k a year which is PEANUTS to live on. ETA: For a point of reference here are the housing market trends for my city https://www.jimsparrow.com/marketstats.php

     

    Yes!  Cost of living where I am now is very low compared to where I used to live. 

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  • I'm pretty sure that minimum wage for servers in my state is $2.13 which is pretty pitiful. My base line is to double the tax, which gets me to 18% and then add from there based on good service. 
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  • imageanamouse:
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    imagelosersaidwhat:
    imageanamouse:
    imagelosersaidwhat:
    While I agree whole dollar comparison is higher for minimum wage here, cost of living needs to be taken into account. We have a relatively high cost of living in my city, so while minimum wage for servers [because they serve alcohol it is less than normal min. wage] is 9.10 an hour in my province, if you take the tips out, you're only making 20k a year which is PEANUTS to live on. ETA: For a point of reference here are the housing market trends for my city https://www.jimsparrow.com/marketstats.php

     

    Doesn't Calgary not have taxes because of the oil? 

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO TAXES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... I wish. We definitely have taxes. We're the only province without PST [Provincial Sales Tax] if that's what you're thinking of though so our GST is only 5 percent instead of like 14 for HST.
    Loser, I love your reaction to this! I was gonna pipe in but I'm happy you did instead lol

    British Columbians hear all sorts of rumors about their neighbours ;) I've been out of Canada for 5 yrs now. Things have changes with taxes and everything anyway, my bad.

    Completely understandable and forgiven! I honestly had no idea that was rumored at all about no taxes here, but I've never lived anywhere else. It was so exciting going down from 7% to 5% GST... and then we got rid of pennies this year... wild and crazy we are! Gas prices are still awful though. Stick out tongue

  • i was told to never tip someone less because they're having a bad day...because if i have a bad day at work (desk job), my pay does not get docked.


  • My bill is normally 20 to 25 bucks max when I eat out, and I normally leave 10. At the very least I try to leave 5.
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  • imageshelley1002:
    imageWino0920:
    Standard 20 but I don't think that people who don't necessarily can't afford it.


    This.  I picked SS for this reason.


    You took my description to seriously. Lol
  • As for the carry out question, I generally tip 10 percent.

    At Sonic, 50 cents to a dollar.
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