So when we had our autopsy for our loss, it was clear the cause of death was an umbilical cord clot, rare and a fluke, it's not likely to happen again and basically is just bad luck.
However - in the midst of that, we also did a karyotype of the baby. He was perfect except there was a small 'find' in terms of a chromosomal deletion on one of his strands of his second chromosome. In other words, one of our donors is essentially a carrier of a small deletion on Chromosome 2. This area impacts kidneys, and causes some pretty gnarly physical and mental conditions that no one would want to sign up for. However, BOTH donors would have to have the EXACT same deletion for any affliction to show up. In the case of our lost baby, he would not have had anything wrong with him - but would have been a carrier of this deletion - which apparently many of us have small deletions like this.
The good news is for both donors to have the exact same deletion is like 1 in a million kind of odds. Lots of people have a small deletion, it's just super rare they happen to mate with someone who has that same deletion.
So last night my RE got around to reading everything now that we finished up my adhesion surgery and I am on track to begin my 'real' FET cycle on the 18th. She called last night and said "Well, I don't think we should call this 'nothing'..." and had a few recommendations for us.
So, first step is testing our egg donor, who happened to be in the clinic for a blood draw for something else earlier this week, and my RE said they took her sample and already sent off a karyotyping request on her (their expense) to see if she is the carrier of this deletion. They also notify CCB so they can reach out and hopefully do the same testing on our sperm donor. Of course we all know sperm donors come and go - so it's not a sure thing they will get that test done/have that result. This is the bummer I guess of using two donors - if it was my egg or known donors, we could just test easily and know.
So - if our egg donor is negative, we basically know that the same thing could happen which we are ok with - our baby could be a carrier of this deletion (25% chance) as the sperm donor would be the one who passed it on. It is also possible that it was just a cosmic thing that happened when that egg met that sperm and would not recur. The bad thing would be if our egg donor is a carrier, then we have the risk that our sperm donor has the same issue - in which case we'd have to look at waiting for his testing to come back, or, PGD our embies which I'm not even sure how to go about since they are already frozen.
The second recommendation was to have my further tested for clotting factors/issues. So I had a blood draw today to get that going. And finally, she said we should talk to their genetic counselor regardless just to understand the whole thing better - esp. if our donor does come back as the carrier.
Oy. Something tells me it will all turn out ok. But it is just stressful to have another potential wrench in our plans, but of course, we don't want to knowingly bring a little life into the world only to suffer. Our MFM didn't seem to think a thing of it; but I suppose our RE thinks differently since they provided the egg donor. They said if our egg donor is the carrier, they won't use her anymore - she's done 5 or 6 cycles and loves doing it, so I hope she's not the problem! She has made many people happy!
Sorry, long ramble for a Friday...
Re: Potential Setback :( (long)
ME:46 MH:44 DE IVF 2014
Met with RE 4/11. 2 IUI's BFN. DE best option. Switched clinics to do "shared" program. Had to retake all tests and a mamm that put me behind and then on a DE waiting list for 12 months. Picked a donor!! (10/13/13) Got matched. Estimated transfer in December. After 2.5 years of patiently waiting I will finally cycle....can hardly believe it. DE cycle got cancelled. One of her tests came back positive. Waiting for another donor. Donor picked!! (1/18/14)
DE IVF #1 (4/26) BFN DE FET #1 (6/4) BFP! Beta 1=339 Beta 2=852 Beta 3=9957 EDD 2/22/15!!
IVF #1 - BFN
IVF #2 - BFP, MC @ 4 weeks
IVF #3 - ET ~ 3/18/2013
IVF#1 Oct 2009 (CCRM) - BFN
IVF#2 March 2010 - Poor response/cancelled
DE IVF#1 Aug 2010 - BFN
DE IVF#2 Dec 2010 - Transferred 1, 2 frozen - BFP!
TTC#2 FET Jan 2013 - Transferred 1 - BFP!
April 2013 DE IVF= BFN
September 2013 DE IVF (Fingers Crossed) = BFFFN! again...
October 2013 FET of our last 2 = Beta Hellzz for 6-7 Weeks. M/C
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Me: 30 ~ Stage IV Endo ~ AMH .38 ~ AFC 8
AMH .97 as of 4/2012! ~ AMH 1.63 as of 4/2013!?!
Him: 29 ~ perfect swimmers
Laparotomy w/partial oophorectomy 8/2009 to remove cysts/endo.
Stopped BCP 4/2010.
Multiple clomid rounds from 11/2010 to 6/2011. ~ All BFN
IUI w/clomid 7/2011. IUI w/clomid & injectables 11/2011 & 1/2012. ~ All BFN
IVF:EPP 5/2012 ~ (4R, 3M, 2F w/ICSI). Both embryos txfrd. ~ BFN
BCP to manage endo from 10/2012 to 12/2012.
FET w/donor embryos #1: 10/2013 Cancelled
FET w/donor embryos #1.2: 11/2013 ~ ET of 2 beautiful blasts on 11/27.
Beta 1: 503(12dp5dt) Beta 2: 1035(14dpt) Beta 3: 3001(16dpt) Beta 4: 8503(19dpt)
Twins with an EDD of 8/15/14! Team Purple
G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s.
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Hi 2Mamaz! You may remember that my field is science and engineering. I do not want to be flippant about your problem, worry is always going to happen when it comes to your kids.
However, I have to say that based on your description, I would not worry for 2 seconds about this. We all have deletions and genetic hiccups, a handful of them at least. I am frankly surprised they're going to test your donor, let alone exclude her. Odds are ridiculously in your favor. Let's hope she doesn't, just so you can have that peace of mind and the docs can drop this. Best wishes!
Hi 2Mamaz.
Just wanted to let you know that when our Donor went through the genetic testing it came back that she was a carrier of a very rare genetic disorder. So rare I can't remember the name. DH was tested and proven not to be a carrier. We chose to stay with our donor as there was no risk to any of our potential children (except that they might be a carrier).
Don't worry too much, I hope everything moves forward in your favour and you can stick to your calendar.
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BFP#1 04/12/2011 - fetal demise - MC 05/28/2011
BFP#2 10/14/2011 - fetal demise - MC 12/13/2011
BFP#3 05/30/2012 - fetal demise - MC 07/23/2012
IVF#1 02/14/2013 - 2 Beautiful Blasts transferred
BFP#4 02/25/2013 - BFP - MC and ectopic 03/06/2013
IFV#2 07/02/2013 -BFP#5 - 07/07/2013
1st Beta 07/11/2013 - 483 (9dp5dt) - 2nd Beta 07/13/2013 1006 (11dp5dt)
1st U/S 07/31/2013 - TWINS! "The Minions"
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1st Beta 09/05/2015 - 105 - 2nd Beta 09/08/2015 335
1st U/S 09/22/2015 - .......
Hey Lady,
I am so hoping this does not change your current plan. FX your donor tests neg for being a carrier and you can move forward asap!
I would be nervous too, but the chances are really slim that their is a problem.
I agree with everything you have said and would most definitely be diligent with testing, but try to keep in mind the worst case scenario is highly unlikely!!!
Keep us posted!
Me (32) DOR, elevated NK Cells/ 2 copies of MTHFR mutation/ MH (35) azoo/high DFI (TTC#1 since 2009)
IVFs#1-4: (4/10-2/12) all BFN
Surprise Bfp (9/11) - c/p
DS IUI#1-2 (9/12, 10/12) - BFN
DS IVF: (11/12) - BFN
DE/DS IVF#1: (10/13) - 2 day 3 embies transferred-BFFN
FET of 2 day 6 blasts: (12/13) - c/p
DE/DS IVF #2: (4/14) - 1 day 5 blast transferred...BFFN...again.
FET 5/14: 1 day 5 hatching blast transferred...another BFFN
Repeat SHG 6/14-normal / Endometrial Receptivity Array biopsy 7/14-Receptive Uterus
New RE, additional testing reveals elevated NK Cells
FET of 1 day 5 blast (RE recommends transferring 1 due to elevated NK cells) with lovenox, steroids & intralipids in October
I'm super late to this post....sorry about that.
But I want you to know I'm thinking about you and have my fingers crossed that this turns out to be nothing. As PP have said, odds are majorly on your side. But I totally get the worry. Try to focus on the positive best as you can and keep us posted. I'm so excited for your next transfer.
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Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1
Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
DH: Severe MFI
12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN
8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)
My ovaries are just for decoration
12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts.
2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.
6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d.
11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522 Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373
6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!
Snowflake baby is a girl!
Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014!
My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
Me: AMA, DOR, undetectable AMH, carrier of SMA, MTHFR homozygous C677T, high cytokines, low IGg B cells, Factor XIII V34l mutation, High Anti-Phosphatidylethanolmine, borderline hypothyroid and mildly insulin resistant.
MH: No known issues, aside from MTHFR.
Recommendations from RI: LIT, Humira, IVIG, Lovenox, Baby Aspirin, Folic Acid, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.
Currently taking: Pre-Natal vitamins, Foltanx, Low-dose synthroid and Metformin.
When cycling also taking: Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, Humira and IVIG.
TTC since 7/11/09..with medical intervention starting in 2010, including 4 failed IVF's and 6 failed IUI's...only "success" was a chemical pregnancy in 11/2012 (credited to use of DE).
FET #1 (11th cycle) on 8/23/13 = BFN.
FET #2 (12th cycle) Transfer of last two (day 6) donor egg blasts on 1/22/14 = BFP, EDD = 10/10/14 (please stick little BOY!)
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