Unique name spellings rant

Beckel84 · June 2013

I am going to throw out my own little tip/rant:

if you want to give your child a unique or interesting name, find an uncommon one or CREATE one by combining different name pieces. When you take an existing, well known name like Isaac and mess around with it to make it Eyzack, it is not cool or fun. 1) everyone reading it gets confused and mispronounces your child's name. When they are corrected, or get it, they go, 'oh. It's Isaac.' 2) it doesn't make the kid seem any cooler or interesting, it makes the parents seem like they are trying too hard. 3) it sets the kid up for a lifetime of correcting the spelling.

now, as I said, if you have a truly original or rare name that someone doesn't know, and they see it/hear it/are corrected, they go, 'oh. That's a nice name. Or, oh, I've never heard that name, that's interesting.' Isn't that better?

septimus · June 2013

Beckel84:
I am going to throw out my own little tip/rant:
if you want to give your child a unique or interesting name, find an uncommon one or CREATE one by combining different name pieces. When you take an existing, well known name like Isaac and mess around with it to make it Eyzack, it is not cool or fun. 1) everyone reading it gets confused and mispronounces your child's name. When they are corrected, or get it, they go, 'oh. It's Isaac.' 2) it doesn't make the kid seem any cooler or interesting, it makes the parents seem like they are trying too hard. 3) it sets the kid up for a lifetime of correcting the spelling.
now, as I said, if you have a truly original or rare name that someone doesn't know, and they see it/hear it/are corrected, they go, 'oh. That's a nice name. Or, oh, I've never heard that name, that's interesting.' Isn't that better?

Well the bold isn't much better TBH

WashingtonQueen · June 2013

Beckel84:
I am going to throw out my own little tip/rant:
if you want to give your child a unique or interesting name, find an uncommon one or CREATE one by combining different name pieces. When you take an existing, well known name like Isaac and mess around with it to make it Eyzack, it is not cool or fun. 1) everyone reading it gets confused and mispronounces your child's name. When they are corrected, or get it, they go, 'oh. It's Isaac.' 2) it doesn't make the kid seem any cooler or interesting, it makes the parents seem like they are trying too hard. 3) it sets the kid up for a lifetime of correcting the spelling.
now, as I said, if you have a truly original or rare name that someone doesn't know, and they see it/hear it/are corrected, they go, 'oh. That's a nice name. Or, oh, I've never heard that name, that's interesting.' Isn't that better?

Bad advice.

Beckel84 · June 2013

I'm not saying I would do that, but it makes more sense to me that if its so important for someone to be special and unique, then they truly should be so by being creative. Not by trying to be cute with an existing name. You you name a kid a name, spell it the way it is spelled.

WashingtonQueen · June 2013

Beckel84:
I'm not saying I would do that, but it makes more sense to me that if its so important for someone to be special and unique, then they truly should be so by being creative. Not by trying to be cute with an existing name. You name a kid a name, spell it the way it is spelled.

True, but you should also give the kid a real name.

Beckel84 · June 2013

WashingtonQueen:
Beckel84:
I'm not saying I would do that, but it makes more sense to me that if its so important for someone to be special and unique, then they truly should be so by being creative. Not by trying to be cute with an existing name. You name a kid a name, spell it the way it is spelled.
True, but you should also give the kid a real name.

im pretty sure the following we're all names that became new versions of the old at some point:: Kayla, Kaylie, Kylie. Rebecca, becca, Reba, Becky. Jenny, Jenna, Jeanie. Do you think all these names just exist in the universe? At some point, someone makes a little change in a syllable and makes it a little different, creating a new name. They are not spelling the same thing in their own way, but changing the name by changing the sound. That's what I'm talking about.

WashingtonQueen · June 2013

Beckel84:
WashingtonQueen:
Beckel84:
I'm not saying I would do that, but it makes more sense to me that if its so important for someone to be special and unique, then they truly should be so by being creative. Not by trying to be cute with an existing name. You name a kid a name, spell it the way it is spelled.
True, but you should also give the kid a real name.
im pretty sure the following we're all names that became new versions of the old at some point:: Kayla, Kaylie, Kylie. Rebecca, becca, Reba, Becky. Jenny, Jenna, Jeanie. Do you think all these names just exist in the universe? At some point, someone makes a little change in a syllable and makes it a little different, creating a new name. They are not spelling the same thing in their own way, but changing the name by changing the sound. That's what I'm talking about.

Zimger · June 2013

I understand your dislike of misspelled names. I don't like them either. I also agree that if someone wants a unique name they should actually attempt to find a real unique (less common) name.

However, the general consensus of this board is that created names are equally as ridiculous. I agree with that as well.

Most of the names you listed are either diminutives of a more formal name or are variations. Variations typically occur when the name crosses cultural boundaries or over a long period of time.

Beckel84 · June 2013

Mature response to an adult conversation. I may be a newbie, but I know from reading these boards that you really don't like it when people talk back to you and disagree with you. I think I made a valid point, why do you always run to the gifs?

Beckel84 · June 2013

Zimger:
I understand your dislike of misspelled names. I don't like them either. I also agree that if someone wants a unique name they should actually attempt to find a real unique (less common) name.
However, the general consensus of this board is that created names are equally as ridiculous. I agree with that as well.
Most of the names you listed are either diminutives of a more formal name or are variations. Variations typically occur when the name crosses cultural boundaries or over a long period of time.

good points. However, are not all these names accepted now as stand alone names? When Branden became Brayden, some intrepid soul created it and it was one of a kind for awhile. Now it is accepted as 'a name'. You are saying no one can ever create their own name but that is how all names came into existence: at some point, someone stringed together syllables and created what sounded nice to them.

Zimger · June 2013

Beckel84:
Zimger:
I understand your dislike of misspelled names. I don't like them either. I also agree that if someone wants a unique name they should actually attempt to find a real unique (less common) name.
However, the general consensus of this board is that created names are equally as ridiculous. I agree with that as well.
Most of the names you listed are either diminutives of a more formal name or are variations. Variations typically occur when the name crosses cultural boundaries or over a long period of time.
good points. However, are not all these names accepted now as stand alone names? When Branden became Brayden, some intrepid soul created it and it was one of a kind for awhile. Now it is accepted as 'a name'. You are saying no one can ever create their own name but that is how all names came into existence: at some point, someone stringed together syllables and created what sounded nice to them.

Brandon did not become Brayden. Braden was derived from an old Irish surname.

I did not say no one can create their own name. They obviously do it often...and quite honestly I think it looks ridiculous.

Yes societies create names and alter names over time. I didn't argue that but these names are typically altered to fit the language...not one persons attempt to be unique.

theimpossibleastronaut · June 2013

Beckel84:
WashingtonQueen:
Beckel84:
I'm not saying I would do that, but it makes more sense to me that if its so important for someone to be special and unique, then they truly should be so by being creative. Not by trying to be cute with an existing name. You name a kid a name, spell it the way it is spelled. 
True, but you should also give the kid a real name.
im pretty sure the following we're all names that became new versions of the old at some point:: Kayla, Kaylie, Kylie. Rebecca, becca, Reba, Becky. Jenny, Jenna, Jeanie. Do you think all these names just exist in the universe? At some point, someone makes a little change in a syllable and makes it a little different, creating a new name. They are not spelling the same thing in their own way, but changing the name by changing the sound. That's what I'm talking about.

But many of the names you're talking about above are nicknames. One of the is my name and I go by all the nicknames you listed. So IMO it's not so much that someone made a new name they just used a nickname for their kid.

WashingtonQueen · June 2013

Beckel84:
Mature response to an adult conversation. I may be a newbie, but I know from reading these boards that you really don't like it when people talk back to you and disagree with you. I think I made a valid point, why do you always run to the gifs?

Ha! Don't sit there and act like you know anything about me, you don't.

No, you do not have a valid point once so ever. Run to gifs? You needed to see the look on my face.

I am not nearly as good at explaining the concept of made-up names vs. real names as some of the other people on the board so here is a thread for you to read.

https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/1/73626849/ShowThread.aspx

A clipping from the post -

"Words and names have etymology?history. Onomastics is the study of names. When you encounter an object that is new to you you generally ask what it is called. You don't just make up a word for it and then announce to everyone that THAT is what such an object is called because what are NAMES anyway but arbitrary groupings of letters that someone a long time ago decided were correct.

It goes beyond the name itself. Most names have indicators in the groupings of letters that tell you much more than whether the person is male or female. They tell a story of language, culture, society and history. So yes, a name like Jaelyn (gag) or the various -aiden names will have a history of early 21st century experimentation. There is a REASON certain letters were grouped together to make different names and why others were not.
??????????
Giving your child a smoosh, made-up name is the equivalent of announcing to the world that you are uneducated and don't care who knows it. "

sunlavender · June 2013

Um. No.

Whitterpow · June 2013

I don't like misspellings either, but sometimes created names aren't a good thing either. Orangejello, lemonjello, laa stupid mibile left out the hyphen between the a's pronounced ladasha just to name a few. I think I'd take kierstyn or ashleigh over those lol. You may think I'm making these names up, but these are all legitimate names of people that me or my relatives went to school with.

Zimger · June 2013

Whitterpow:
I don't like misspellings either, but sometimes created names aren't a good thing either. Orangejello, lemonjello, laa stupid mibile left out the hyphen between the a's pronounced ladasha just to name a few. I think I'd take kierstyn or ashleigh over those lol. You may think I'm making these names up, but these are all legitimate names of people that me or my relatives went to school with.

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard this...

WashingtonQueen · June 2013

Zimger:
Whitterpow:
I don't like misspellings either, but sometimes created names aren't a good thing either. Orangejello, lemonjello, laa stupid mibile left out the hyphen between the a's pronounced ladasha just to name a few. I think I'd take kierstyn or ashleigh over those lol. You may think I'm making these names up, but these are all legitimate names of people that me or my relatives went to school with.
If I had a dollar for everytime I heard this...

::giggle::

Whitterpow · June 2013

WashingtonQueen:
Zimger:
Whitterpow:
I don't like misspellings either, but sometimes created names aren't a good thing either. Orangejello, lemonjello, laa stupid mibile left out the hyphen between the a's pronounced ladasha just to name a few. I think I'd take kierstyn or ashleigh over those lol. You may think I'm making these names up, but these are all legitimate names of people that me or my relatives went to school with.
If I had a dollar for everytime I heard this...
::giggle::

And this is why making up names can be a bad idea. No one should have to say I promise I'm not making this up when talking about someone's name.

WashingtonQueen · June 2013

Whitterpow:
WashingtonQueen:
Zimger:
Whitterpow:
I don't like misspellings either, but sometimes created names aren't a good thing either. Orangejello, lemonjello, laa stupid mibile left out the hyphen between the a's pronounced ladasha just to name a few. I think I'd take kierstyn or ashleigh over those lol. You may think I'm making these names up, but these are all legitimate names of people that me or my relatives went to school with.
If I had a dollar for everytime I heard this...
::giggle::
And this is why making up names can be a bad idea. No one should have to say I promise I'm not making this up when talking about someone's name.

That's not what we are talking about.

Read #10 in this link.

https://tb-babynames.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-would-you-say.html

Whitterpow · June 2013

WashingtonQueen:
Whitterpow:
WashingtonQueen:
Zimger:
Whitterpow:
I don't like misspellings either, but sometimes created names aren't a good thing either. Orangejello, lemonjello, laa stupid mibile left out the hyphen between the a's pronounced ladasha just to name a few. I think I'd take kierstyn or ashleigh over those lol. You may think I'm making these names up, but these are all legitimate names of people that me or my relatives went to school with.
If I had a dollar for everytime I heard this...
::giggle::

And this is why making up names can be a bad idea. No one should have to say I promise I'm not making this up when talking about someone's name.
That's not what we are talking about.
Read #10 in this link.
https://tb-babynames.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-would-you-say.html
 

Oh lol. I must have been lied to by my sister. She said those were guys on her football team and I could have sworn I heard them announced. Oh well. I suppose I wouldn't be someone on the bump if I remained unscathed the whole time. Wow though, my post seemed like it was straight out of that! I guess I'm more gullible than I thought. Thanks for not letting me continue to believe this even if it did make me blush a little getting called out.

magsugar13 · June 2013

Beckel84:
I am going to throw out my own little tip/rant:
if you want to give your child a unique or interesting name, find an uncommon one or CREATE one by combining different name pieces. When you take an existing, well known name like Isaac and mess around with it to make it Eyzack, it is not cool or fun. 1) everyone reading it gets confused and mispronounces your child's name. When they are corrected, or get it, they go, 'oh. It's Isaac.' 2) it doesn't make the kid seem any cooler or interesting, it makes the parents seem like they are trying too hard. 3) it sets the kid up for a lifetime of correcting the spelling.
now, as I said, if you have a truly original or rare name that someone doesn't know, and they see it/hear it/are corrected, they go, 'oh. That's a nice name. Or, oh, I've never heard that name, that's interesting.' Isn't that better?

so, let me get this striaght...you think its a bad idea to have creative spelling, but ok to make-up names??

lmao...you are too cute

WashingtonQueen · June 2013

Whitterpow:
Oh lol. I must have been lied to by my sister. She said those were guys on her football team and I could have sworn I heard them announced. Oh well. I suppose I wouldn't be someone on the bump if I remained unscathed the whole time. Wow though, my post seemed like it was straight out of that! I guess I'm more gullible than I thought. Thanks for not letting me continue to believe this even if it did make me blush a little getting called out.

Haha! You're fine

Whitterpow · June 2013

WashingtonQueen:
Whitterpow:

Oh lol. I must have been lied to by my sister. She said those were guys on her football team and I could have sworn I heard them announced. Oh well. I suppose I wouldn't be someone on the bump if I remained unscathed the whole time. Wow though, my post seemed like it was straight out of that! I guess I'm more gullible than I thought. Thanks for not letting me continue to believe this even if it did make me blush a little getting called out.
Haha! You're fine

So is this where I go on all the different forums and bash you for being mean or is it ok if I just put on big girl panties and skip that part?

WashingtonQueen · June 2013

Whitterpow:
WashingtonQueen:
Whitterpow:
Oh lol. I must have been lied to by my sister. She said those were guys on her football team and I could have sworn I heard them announced. Oh well. I suppose I wouldn't be someone on the bump if I remained unscathed the whole time. Wow though, my post seemed like it was straight out of that! I guess I'm more gullible than I thought. Thanks for not letting me continue to believe this even if it did make me blush a little getting called out.
Haha! You're fine
So is this where I go on all the different forums and bash you for being mean or is it ok if I just put on big girl panties and skip that part?

Big girl panties are always the wise choice if you want to be taken seriously and make some friends

HattieLove · June 2013

WashingtonQueen:
Beckel84:
Mature response to an adult conversation. I may be a newbie, but I know from reading these boards that you really don't like it when people talk back to you and disagree with you. I think I made a valid point, why do you always run to the gifs?
Ha! Don't sit there and act like you know anything about me, you don't.
No, you do not have a valid point once so ever. Run to gifs? You needed to see the look on my face.
I am not nearly as good at explaining the concept of made-up names vs. real names as some of the other people on the board so here is a thread for you to read.
https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/1/73626849/ShowThread.aspx
A clipping from the post -
"Words and names have etymology?history. Onomastics is the study of names. When you encounter an object that is new to you you generally ask what it is called. You don't just make up a word for it and then announce to everyone that THAT is what such an object is called because what are NAMES anyway but arbitrary groupings of letters that someone a long time ago decided were correct.

It goes beyond the name itself. Most names have indicators in the groupings of letters that tell you much more than whether the person is male or female. They tell a story of language, culture, society and history. So yes, a name like Jaelyn (gag) or the various -aiden names will have a history of early 21st century experimentation. There is a REASON certain letters were grouped together to make different names and why others were not.
??????????
Giving your child a smoosh, made-up name is the equivalent of announcing to the world that you are uneducated and don't care who knows it. "

FFS, this! I don't think it's possible to explain this concept better than this quote does.

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