No. I think epi-judgers are those who try to make anyone else feel like a chickensh!t or bad mother for not wanting pain. You, my dear, are not like that. LOL
I, too, am going to TRY to make it without drugs, but I have never been pushed that far, so who knows. I don't blame someone for not even wanting to find out their limits on pain. ?
Meh. All I can speak from is my own experience, which is that having the epi made me able to actually ENJOY bringing my child into this world, whereas prior to the epi, I was DONE and wanted to go HOME, child or no. If that makes me an as$hole mom, ok.
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Of course not - that makes you a strong person....I think an "Epi Judger" is someone who says to me just because I want to have an Epi that I am wrong for not at least trying to go without. That I am a bad person/mother because I dont know the effects of an Epi on my baby....blah blah blah - when in reality they dont know half of what I have been through and never stop to think hmmm maybe there's a reason why she wants the Epi.....
It doesn't make you a judger....you just can't have an opinion at all because you haven't pushed your baby out yet.??I learned that from all the really nice Moms that have come over to this board today to "educate".
Of course not - that makes you a strong person....I think an "Epi Judger" is someone who says to me just because I want to have an Epi that I am wrong for not at least trying to go without. That I am a bad person/mother because I dont know the effects of an Epi on my baby....blah blah blah - when in reality they dont know half of what I have been through and never stop to think hmmm maybe there's a reason why she wants the Epi.....
I don't recall anyone saying anything close to this in that whole discussion.
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LOL which I still find funny because in the OP no one was really judging epi's
IN fact most of us that want unmedicated birth's are open to the epi if we decide we can't do it!
maybe we should see if we can get MELLEN08 out and sick them on her.....
Actually the OP was judging you on having an Epi - the only thing that is left out is if you were "uneducated" about the facts of having an Epi. But see this is my problem with that statement - it should not matter if I am educated on the effects of an Epi or not - you should not stand in judgement of me because you dont know what I have been through to make this so called "uneducated" decision.
I think it is quite comical for anyone to pass judgment on anyone about their personal choices when it comes to giving birth. It is just that a PERSONAL choice and who are you to say to anyone that their PERSONAL choice is a bad one.
Of course not - that makes you a strong person....I think an "Epi Judger" is someone who says to me just because I want to have an Epi that I am wrong for not at least trying to go without. That I am a bad person/mother because I dont know the effects of an Epi on my baby....blah blah blah - when in reality they dont know half of what I have been through and never stop to think hmmm maybe there's a reason why she wants the Epi.....
I don't recall anyone saying anything close to this in that whole discussion.
Oh it is in there - and it went further into detail about C-Sections being what the doctor wanted to do vs. letting a woman go natural....because the doctor didnt want to have to wait....blah blah blah
Of course not - that makes you a strong person....I think an "Epi Judger" is someone who says to me just because I want to have an Epi that I am wrong for not at least trying to go without. That I am a bad person/mother because I dont know the effects of an Epi on my baby....blah blah blah - when in reality they dont know half of what I have been through and never stop to think hmmm maybe there's a reason why she wants the Epi.....
I don't recall anyone saying anything close to this in that whole discussion.
Oh it is in there - and it went further into detail about C-Sections being what the doctor wanted to do vs. letting a woman go natural....because the doctor didnt want to have to wait....blah blah blah
Wow, this discussion is still going on huh? I said I was referring to the women on here who posted about their OBs wanting to schedule a c-section for those who are due around the holidays and I thought that was crazy.
I'm am epi-chicken....I'm going for a natural birth due to my fears, not my strength!!!! But trust me, fear will go right out the window if I can't tolerate the pain.
Of course not - that makes you a strong person....I think an "Epi Judger" is someone who says to me just because I want to have an Epi that I am wrong for not at least trying to go without. That I am a bad person/mother because I dont know the effects of an Epi on my baby....blah blah blah - when in reality they dont know half of what I have been through and never stop to think hmmm maybe there's a reason why she wants the Epi.....
I don't recall anyone saying anything close to this in that whole discussion.
Oh it is in there - and it went further into detail about C-Sections being what the doctor wanted to do vs. letting a woman go natural....because the doctor didnt want to have to wait....blah blah blah
Wow, this discussion is still going on huh? I said I was referring to the women on here who posted about their OBs wanting to schedule a c-section for those who are due around the holidays and I thought that was crazy.
Okay but see you are missing my point entirely - who are YOU to judge why this person might want an elective C-Section? Or why their OB wants to do it.
So what you think it is crazy again you might not know the full reasonings behind the decision. Its statements like this that irritate the mess out of me...what makes you so all knowing about their choices and situations? You dont - what it makes you is judgmental.
Re: So if I want to try to have an unmedicated birth...
Haha yeah I saw that. Apparently, we can't have wishes or hopes of not needing one.
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No. I think epi-judgers are those who try to make anyone else feel like a chickensh!t or bad mother for not wanting pain. You, my dear, are not like that. LOL
I, too, am going to TRY to make it without drugs, but I have never been pushed that far, so who knows. I don't blame someone for not even wanting to find out their limits on pain. ?
LAME...........
Oh rease! the fun we've had this afternoon!
Yeah...that's why I was confused. I didn't see much "epi judging" going on.
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Does this make me an "epi judger?"
Of course not - that makes you a strong person....I think an "Epi Judger" is someone who says to me just because I want to have an Epi that I am wrong for not at least trying to go without. That I am a bad person/mother because I dont know the effects of an Epi on my baby....blah blah blah - when in reality they dont know half of what I have been through and never stop to think hmmm maybe there's a reason why she wants the Epi.....
Yeah, most people can't read or understand that. I give up.
Have you forgotten? It makes you a douche, not an epi-judger.
I don't recall anyone saying anything close to this in that whole discussion.
Actually the OP was judging you on having an Epi - the only thing that is left out is if you were "uneducated" about the facts of having an Epi. But see this is my problem with that statement - it should not matter if I am educated on the effects of an Epi or not - you should not stand in judgement of me because you dont know what I have been through to make this so called "uneducated" decision.
I think it is quite comical for anyone to pass judgment on anyone about their personal choices when it comes to giving birth. It is just that a PERSONAL choice and who are you to say to anyone that their PERSONAL choice is a bad one.
https://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/7398501.aspx
If you liked that one you'll LOVE this one.
Oh it is in there - and it went further into detail about C-Sections being what the doctor wanted to do vs. letting a woman go natural....because the doctor didnt want to have to wait....blah blah blah
Wow, this discussion is still going on huh? I said I was referring to the women on here who posted about their OBs wanting to schedule a c-section for those who are due around the holidays and I thought that was crazy.
Okay but see you are missing my point entirely - who are YOU to judge why this person might want an elective C-Section? Or why their OB wants to do it.
So what you think it is crazy again you might not know the full reasonings behind the decision. Its statements like this that irritate the mess out of me...what makes you so all knowing about their choices and situations? You dont - what it makes you is judgmental.