Unwilling 4yo clean up? I can tell her if I do it she won't get it back and literally pack things up and she does not care. She says she has too much anyway and believe me I have really gotten rid of tons of stuff so which they have a lot still I completely believe it is less than average suburban kids. Our house is not huge and we do not have a dedicated playroom but they have pretty much taken over our living room. I am at a loss with DD because all I had to say to DS two years ago was I would toss a ripped piece of paper and he would clean up. Not even using Mothers Day as a reason is helping with her and I cannot take everything away because it is mostly the joint stuff she will not help with.
Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies
Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
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Would going to bed early work on your kid?
I did a Pinterest thing.
I have a huge plastic bin that I pull out every night right before bath (this is to give her time during the bath to calm down from the inevitable tantrum) to collect things.
Between Dinner and Bath is clean up time. She has to clean up her art table (not neat, just make sure all markers/crayons and papers are on the table) and her room (she has a bin for various things - stuffed animals, dress up things, dolls, horses /my little pony and sundries.) properly.
We set the timer for 30 min.
When the timer goes off, I pick everything up everything not put away and put it in the big bin.
If she wants that particular toy back, she has to EARN IT back with a different chore. https://madsmemories.blogspot.com/2009/08/moms-ransom-rubbage.html
I decorated a tin can with cloth and then wrote various chores on a tongue depressor (glued a small magnet on the back of them). She chooses a new chore to do. Then we put the chore on the fridge until she goes through all of them.
Honestly, it took us 3 weeks of losing her toys/not earning them back until she lost an important toy. And even then, she only earned back the one toy. It took another 2 weeks and all of her markers for her to really kick into high gear.
We also take toys because it works for him, and say "if you want to do X, you have to clean up Y".